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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:The real big difference is probably in time. TNG had to crank out 26 episodes a year every year: each shooting day is precious because you're not just worried about going over budget if you take too long to shoot an episode, you're worried about actually getting the show in the can in time to make your airdates. In that kind of environment, you're going to favor simple lighting and composition that allows you to setup quickly and get the shot done as fast as possible so you can move on to the next scene. The Memory Alpha article on Edward R. Brown posted:Compared to the other Trek television cinematographers, Brown's shooting style was completely different, featuring muted color tones and extensive use of shadows. While perhaps more dramatically pleasing (and earning him an Emmy nomination for "The Big Goodbye"), his tendency to completely hard-light scenes could often end up showing the deficiencies of the set construction, and necessitated his infamous practice of sticking cardboard and tape onto the LCARS screens in order to prevent too many reflections off the studio lights. Brown also refused to adopt a single visual style, often drastically altering his visuals between episodes to best fit the mood of the piece.
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Watching Starship Mine. They're evacuating the ship completely, which I don't remember ever happening before, and I also assume that means there'll be yet more new sets. They must have had quite a budget for season 6.
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Picard's elevator smalltalk with Data and Worf and Geordi accidentally talking over each other both remind me of The Orville.
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Beachcomber posted:Not to sound ungrateful, but I have no idea what I was supposed to get out of that. Their Kevin Uxbridge imitation starts in that episode. (Though it probably develops more in subsequent episodes... they develop an in-joke wherein Kevin is an all-powerful realdoll maker.)
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:TNG was not a cheap show to produce. Over a million dollars an episode (I want to say $1.3M?) in 1987 dollars. I know there's ridiculously expensive shows today that make that look small, but after inflation even by today's standards TNG was not cheap. In 2017 money that's maybe $3 million an episode, perhaps a little less. Let's visit GoT, which is in all likelihood the current high water mark for TV budgets: quote:The pilot reportedly cost HBO $5–10 million to produce,[43] while the first season's budget was estimated at $50–60 million.[44] In the second season, the show received a 15-percent budget increase for the climactic battle in "Blackwater" (which had an $8 million budget).[45][46] Between 2012 and 2015, the average budget per episode increased from $6 million[47] to "at least" $8 million.[48] The sixth-season budget was over $10 million per episode, for a season total of over $100 million and a series record.[49] These are stated budgets and not real budgets. For example: http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/tv-series-budgets-costs-rising-peak-tv-1202570158/ quote:The estimates on the cost of content that emerged from these interviews peg the typical range of the production budget for high-end cable and streaming dramas at $5 million-$7 million an hour, while single-camera half hours on broadcast and cable run from $1.5 million to more than $3 million. With the exception of HBO, which made its mark with lavish productions, that’s a significant increase, during just the past five years, over what had been $3 million-$4 million for cable dramas and around $1 million-$1.5 million for single-camera half hours. Pretty much every hour-long drama costs more than TNG did. I would hazard a guess that costs across the board are being driven upward by Internet studios that can flood money into productions. It's possible that a season of TNG cost more than a season of GoT in adjusted dollars, but then TNG was pumping out over twice the film hours. As a fun thought exercise, imagine 24 episodes a year of TNG at $6 million an episode (the early GOT number). $144 million.
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thexerox123 posted:Their Kevin Uxbridge imitation starts in that episode. Thanks! I'll have plenty of time to catch up, but I wanted to start ds9 asap.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Picard just suddenly attacked the black repairman and I THINK did a Vulcan neck pinch Hypospray
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Picard just suddenly attacked the black repairman and I THINK did a Vulcan neck pinch Beachcomber posted:Hypospray
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Gaz-L posted:No, I'm pretty sure he does the neck pinch in Starship Mine. My mistake. He uses the hypospray later.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Picard just suddenly attacked the black repairman and I THINK did a Vulcan neck pinch Fun fact, that repairman would go on to play Tuvok, a Vulcan!  Also I think he was in Star Trek 6.
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And it ends with everyone making injokes to a bewildered Worf. That was a really entertaining episode even if I wouldn't want many episodes to be that action-heavy.
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WampaLord posted:Fun fact, that repairman would go on to play Tuvok, a Vulcan! Let’s not forget his most memorable role https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3iFJpGJiug
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Jeb! Repetition posted:And it ends with everyone making injokes to a bewildered Worf. That was a really entertaining episode even if I wouldn't want many episodes to be that action-heavy. I've seen this episode been referred to as "Die Hard on a spaceship," but my personal preference is "Die Hard Picard"
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WampaLord posted:I've seen this episode been referred to as "Die Hard on a spaceship," but the only correct version is "Die Hard Picard" 
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Small talk guy is straight up killed and they never try to help him or even mention him for the rest of the episode. I know he was annoying but man, the Enterprise bridge clique strikes again. If you ain't in their little poker circle you're a 2nd class citizen or worse.
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Baronjutter posted:Small talk guy is straight up killed and they never try to help him or even mention him for the rest of the episode. I know he was annoying but man, the Enterprise bridge clique strikes again. If you ain't in their little poker circle you're a 2nd class citizen or worse. Dead is dead, and they only have 43 minutes.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:What's the thing he had that made the scout ship blow up? Was it the locking pin on the Terillium they mentioned? Yep, it was set up in engineering when they were tapping the warp core for the explodium.
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