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This guy over at reddit/PF is recommending people join the army for "re-setting your life financially and professionally." https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/7cwi2s/i_would_strongly_recommend_the_military_for/ quote:You have little say where you go. This can be incredibly hard on families. Holy hell. I know this is a symptom of a hosed up situation USA has it's citiziens in, but still. I can't believe someone is recommending joining the army to reset your life. Such a sad state of fairs.
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rotaryfun posted:I am a white male who is the son of a retired enlisted navy man and stay at home mother. Life included moving every 3 years to military bases in Corpus Christi TX, Pensacola FL, Norfolk VA, and Annapolis MD (this place is definitely a place of privilege). It's important to understand that privilege doesn't mean "I was born to a wealthy and prestigious family". You can have worked hard your whole, come from a lower class background, have had disadvantages, while still benefiting from privilege. It's not a "am privileged" yes/no check box. this sort of illustrates this, but then you get into racial and gender advantages. You might have had to have gotten a second job, but you got that job because your application didn't go into the "one of those people" bin next to the recycling bin (cite) and that's just the easily accessible tip of the iceberg. rotaryfun posted:Somehow I'm the rear end in a top hat because I'm a white male and some poo poo parent can't take care of herself and her kid. Cool thanks for the lesson today guys. 'MERICA You're not the rear end in a top hat because you're a white dude. Take a step back, take a breath, and re-read what people are telling you Volmarias fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Nov 14, 2017 |
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Nov 14, 2017 23:35
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Is it out of everyone's system yet? boop the snoot posted:I am 100% serious when I say I am privileged as gently caress. Why are these posts happening? Please take your arguments to PMs because we're on page 3 of this derail. Some people are coming off a long weekend, so I imagine that's more chances for making horrible financial decisions that we can laugh at. Off to r/personalfinance and r/legaladvice for us all.
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Nov 14, 2017 23:36
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rotaryfun posted:Somehow I'm the rear end in a top hat because I'm a white male and some poo poo parent can't take care of herself and her kid. Cool thanks for the lesson today guys. 'MERICA No you're an rear end in a top hat cuz you're really dumb I mean that's your takeaway from multiple posts' worth of rebuttals, why not try engaging with the actual arguments themselves?
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Nov 14, 2017 23:36
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rotaryfun posted:I am a white male who is the son of a retired enlisted navy man and stay at home mother. Life included moving every 3 years to military bases in Corpus Christi TX, Pensacola FL, Norfolk VA, and Annapolis MD (this place is definitely a place of privilege). As soon I read "stay at home mother", I really thought you were going to concede that a two parent household where the mom gets to be a full time mom is an advantage some other people don't have. lol, guess not.
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Nov 14, 2017 23:37
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Suspicious Lump posted:This guy over at reddit/PF is recommending people join the army for "re-setting your life financially and professionally." Eh, I know a bunch of people who've done this. Once you know one, if you're still friends after a couple years, you'll know a bunch. That's kind of how the army gets lots of people. The army gives people a purpose that's going to be lacking in many other career paths. And honestly it's not the worst advice in the world. These people have gone on to have good careers with a good pension, great friendships developed from their very close working relationships, and overall pretty decent lives. But I live in Canada.
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Nov 14, 2017 23:40
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rotaryfun posted:I am a white male who is the son of a retired enlisted navy man and stay at home mother. Life included moving every 3 years to military bases in Corpus Christi TX, Pensacola FL, Norfolk VA, and Annapolis MD (this place is definitely a place of privilege). why didn't your mom just pull herself up by the apron strings if your life was so hard
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e: Nope, we're done.
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Jordan7hm posted:Eh, I know a bunch of people who've done this. Once you know one, if you're still friends after a couple years, you'll know a bunch. That's kind of how the army gets lots of people. The army gives people a purpose that's going to be lacking in many other career paths. Joining the army means giving up a lot of (but not all) ability to gently caress up while guaranteeing housing, income, pension, reasonably healthy food, exercise, etc. Compared to the situation some people seem to be in (or are at least headed), that's actually probably GWM and GWL.
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Nov 14, 2017 23:47
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Suspicious Lump posted:This guy over at reddit/PF is recommending people join the army for "re-setting your life financially and professionally."  And on the BWM side of things, there are people giving personal stories of how it didn't help too much, and in one case even hurt since their career development was so many years behind their peers: quote:Sure, if you have a useless degree and no job skills...the military is just perfect for you! I would recommend against joining the military straight out of high school unless it's just what you want to do. The four years of having my college paid for was not worth the 4 years I wasted in a god forsaken desert learning how to sweep sand dunes and call in air strikes. I'm so far behind my peers in earning potential at 27 years old that the student debt would have been worth giving up 4 years of my life to one of the worst organizations on the planet. Also from my own POV, if you're BWM then going into the military isn't magically going to fix that. The businesses near bases that exist to prey on impulse spending from soldiers are a cliche for a reason. Haifisch fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Nov 14, 2017 |
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Nov 14, 2017 23:48
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totalnewbie posted:Joining the army means giving up a lot of (but not all) ability to gently caress up while guaranteeing housing, income, pension, reasonably healthy food, exercise, etc. A new WPA that provided all that would be pretty great.
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Nov 14, 2017 23:51
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https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/7cwgam/23_pay_for_most_of_the_bills_and_gf_does_not_make/quote:Hi PF, Long time lurker, first time poster and I have finally come to the realization everything isn't "fine" What is it with BWM and trucks? Also, $350/month for two cell phones?! You can get on a prepaid plan with unlimited texts and calls and plenty of data for <$40/month. Vegan girlfriend not paying for her own food is lol.
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Nov 14, 2017 23:59
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The cell phones blow me away more than anything else. Goddamn. Also... 5 lines between two people? One would think a drug dealer wouldn’t need to worry so much about money.
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Nov 15, 2017 00:03
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Nail Rat posted:Personal leisure/enrichment pursuits are not BWM if you can afford them, whatever they may be. holy lol alright ignoring this trainwreck of a derail, this lady is some incredible levels of bwm. ITT tech and then ashford "university", which is another online for profit shithole. the guy needs to get the gently caress out before he's stuck with a retard raising a smaller retard
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Nov 15, 2017 00:05
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Buying a brand new truck to carry around a used, half-working ATV that you've ridden once? I'm guessing it's actually to impress their latest girlfriend (once a year, every year). At least they're legit "country" since they raise hogs.
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Nov 15, 2017 00:17
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Zo posted:the guy needs to get the gently caress out before he's stuck with a retard raising a smaller retard 
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Nov 15, 2017 00:20
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I'm glad that it's kosher to refer to sick disabled children as "retards" in this thread Y'all are no doubt quality humans irl
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Nov 15, 2017 00:25
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KingSlime posted:I'm glad that it's kosher to refer to sick disabled children as "retards" in this thread People Unlikely to Contribute to Society? PUCS? There's a line between compassion and reality.
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Nov 15, 2017 00:27
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You guys need to go outside more
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OctaviusBeaver posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/7cwgam/23_pay_for_most_of_the_bills_and_gf_does_not_make/ Yeah the cell phone and utilities are weird, but even then there's still about $1.5K/month or more missing (~$2.5K in expenses, ~$4K+ in income). Yet, they're going into debt. That said, quote:My dad has not so much the problem but more my mother. Has a brand new truck, 6 horses, buys 500-1000 dollar pairs of boots, etc. She blows money left and right and my father is the supporter of her habits (Sounds oddly familiar now that I type it out... /sad) (He's still being kinda lovely blaming stuff on his girlfriend, when he's buying poo poo for his $175K/year-earning parents that they're never paying him back for. I'm sure they're both at fault, but holy poo poo they're earning enough that they should be able to pull things together without recriminations.)
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Nov 15, 2017 00:33
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i'd like to note the word privilege showed up 58 times last page, so uh..good job?
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Photex posted:i'd like to note the word privilege showed up 58 times last page, so uh..good job? FYGM
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Photex posted:i'd like to note the word privilege showed up 58 times last page, so uh..good job? Yeah, the people who take note of a problem are the issue, not the ones perpetuating it. I'll keep that in mind next time I see a fire.
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Nov 15, 2017 00:47
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Suspicious Lump posted:Holy hell. I know this is a symptom of a hosed up situation USA has it's citiziens in, but still. I can't believe someone is recommending joining the army to reset your life. Yeah, the carnival/fair/circus carnie scene isn't what it used to be.
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canyoneer posted:Yeah, the carnival/fair/circus carnie scene isn't what it used to be. Fuckin' employees getting classified as independent contractors, man. It's a racket.
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Nov 15, 2017 00:49
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NancyPants posted:Fuckin' employees getting classified as independent contractors, man. It's a racket. A lot of lawsuits over this, be interesting to see where things fall. Suffice to say, being in that position is likely BWM due to the $10 class action payment (on the high side) you're likely to receive.
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NancyPants posted:Yeah, the people who take note of a problem are the issue, not the ones perpetuating it. I'll keep that in mind next time I see a fire. yeah the problem was every one of those times had nothing to do with the topic of the thread, so it was more of a  on making GBS threads up the thread instead of taking it to the other sub-forum?
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Nov 15, 2017 00:56
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Photex posted:yeah the problem was every one of those times had nothing to do with the topic of the thread, so it was more of a Meh. In the schadenfreude thread when people post something a bit too hosed up they get called on it. This is like the same thing, only I guess it hits too close to home for some folks huh?
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Nov 15, 2017 01:25
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This thread is much more fun when it's mocking upper-middle-class idiots for taking out a third mortgage on their shittily built, oversized house to buy a brand new truck to haul their horse to the equine acupuncturist and much less fun when it's mocking poor people for not having more money/not living lives of perfect asceticism and absolute rationality so they can
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naughty_penguin posted:Meh. In the schadenfreude thread when people post something a bit too hosed up they get called on it. This is like the same thing, only I guess it hits too close to home for some folks huh? Possibly, i'm not disagreeing with the verbal lashing but it gets loving old when every thread boils down to the same bullshit that's all, when I see 80 plus posts next time it better be some dude with 3 truck leases totaling $1000 a month because he needs to haul his horses cross country.
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Nov 15, 2017 01:51
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It's GWM to just identify as bi and go from privileged white male to marginalized LGBTQ folk.
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Nov 15, 2017 01:53
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poors have all the more reason to be financially responsible, like how fats have all the more reason to exercise. if you're gonna be like "well im fat already so im just gonna eat these 20 meat pies" then it's open season to laugh at you lol sorry not sorry
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Nov 15, 2017 01:55
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hailthefish posted:This thread is much more fun when it's mocking upper-middle-class idiots for taking out a third mortgage on their shittily built, oversized house to buy a brand new truck to haul their horse to the equine acupuncturist and much less fun when it's mocking poor people for not having more money/not living lives of perfect asceticism and absolute rationality so they can Not emptyquoting.
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Zo posted:poors have all the more reason to be financially responsible, like how fats have all the more reason to exercise. It's actually really goddamn expensive to be poor, which makes it harder to pull yourself out of poverty. The book Nickel and Dimed covered it pretty well; without good credit and/or savings you inevitably pay more for the same things middle class people see as trivial expenses.
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hailthefish posted:This thread is much more fun when it's mocking upper-middle-class idiots for taking out a third mortgage on their shittily built, oversized house to buy a brand new truck to haul their horse to the equine acupuncturist and much less fun when it's mocking poor people for not having more money/not living lives of perfect asceticism and absolute rationality so they can
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hailthefish posted:This thread is much more fun when it's mocking upper-middle-class idiots for taking out a third mortgage on their shittily built, oversized house to buy a brand new truck to haul their horse to the equine acupuncturist and much less fun when it's mocking poor people for not having more money/not living lives of perfect asceticism and absolute rationality so they can Definitely.
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Tales of Cheap fucks thread on GBS is still paying dividends if anyones interested https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3817963 [quote] Panfilo posted:-Father-in-law insists on doing a roof repair on his home instead of hiring someone.
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Some people are poor because of bad luck and some people are poor because they constantly make terrible choices. One is funny, the other isn't. The guy who founded a restaurant and sat in the freezer drinking all day is funny, the fact that his kids lost their house over it is sad.
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Nov 15, 2017 02:41
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Suspicious Lump posted:Tales of Cheap fucks thread on GBS is still paying dividends if anyones interested I think the lesson we can learn from this is pay a professional for handy jobs instead of DIY.
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Elephanthead posted:I think the lesson we can learn from this is pay a professional for handy jobs instead of DIY. Thing is no lesson was learnt because he did the same retarded thing twice. I'll have to read that thread again.
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