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WENTZ WAGON NUI posted:I learned the other night you can say "Academy Award winner The Wolfman (2010)" Unless that's directed at the unrated cut and the award was "Getting hosed In The rear end By The Studio The Hardest" Never did something deserve a victory less than this in movies
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:So principal filming on this wrapped in October .... who wants to lay odds on how much reshooting they'll be doing in the wake of Justice League's reception and who wants to lay odds on the film not even being released?? Wonder Woman just made a bajillion dollars. Everything else they've released has done really well. Justice League is the first real hiccup, and it's got some pretty specific asterixes over it. How the gently caress does everyone in this thread have such a bad memory? And why would they not release it? The gently caress is this post?
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Vintersorg posted:LEGO Batman doesn’t even deserve acknowledgment. Sure, the first 10 or so minutes are solid but it sinks really fast after that. Lego Batman is great.
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Snowman_McK posted:Wonder Woman just made a bajillion dollars. Everything else they've released has done really well. Justice League is the first real hiccup, and it's got some pretty specific asterixes over it. How the gently caress does everyone in this thread have such a bad memory? 'Hiccup'.   They hosed up really, really badly.
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The lessongthey should lessen is just not touch Aquaman's at all, let the director finish with no interference. Same for Shazam
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Hey remember that Forbes article that said WB faces a possible $50m - $100m loss on Justice League? I wasn't totally convinced by his box office predictions when the article first came out but it looks like his projection of a $235m domestic box office is going to be pretty much exactly spot on. So I guess his prediction that it'll end up with a total worldwide theatrical gross of $635 million might also be pretty spot on. That means it stands to make roughly $75 million less than Amazing Spider-Man 2, the film which was so disappointing that Sony dumped the series (even though they'd announced a whole bunch of sequels and spinoffs) and had to wait for things to cool off for a few years before they went and begged Marvel to help them bail it out. Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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If only Sony released a Spider Gwen movie that made millions in 2014 in addition to ASM2.
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WENTZ WAGON NUI posted:I learned the other night you can say "Academy Award winner The Wolfman (2010)" Well drat deserved.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:That means it stands to make roughly $75 million less than Amazing Spider-Man 2, the film which was so disappointing that Fox dumped the series (even though they'd announced a whole bunch of sequels and spinoffs) and had to wait for things to cool off for a few years before they went and begged Marvel to help them bail it out. Ah, so I was wondering where you got your theory that WB was gonna cancel Aquaman and scrap everything and this makes sense now. It's still drastically different because ASM2 was their single launching point and as far as I know they didn't have anything else even to the point of pre-production . WB still has WW and SS as huge hits, both in fact making inroads into demographics that superhero movie usually don't do great in. I can definitely understand them panicking but they'd be stupid* to scrap everything instead of just like, quietly pretending JL didn't exist and playing up their strengths. Aquaman is in a unique spot because they still have time to gently caress with it but loving with it would cost money and they hopefully just learned a lesson that throwing stupid amounts of money at something doesn't guarantee a return. They still might gently caress with it tho. They might also cancel/delay some of the other stuff but the WW and SS follow ups should be pretty safe. They're not in the position as a studio that Sony was in when ASM2 flopped. * they might actually be this stupid, I guess time will tell
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Wonder Woman's success is not going to help the other DCEU films going forwards until the release of WW2 which is still two years and several films away in their schedule. They did a breakdown of WW's audience demographics and found that there was an extraordinarily high number of women, people over 50 and infrequent moviegoers compared to other superhero blockbusters. The other thing we know about those people is that they probably didn't go see BvS even though Wonder Woman had a minor role in it and they almost certainly didn't buy a ticket to Justice League even though it featured Wonder Woman fairly prominently. The people who ensured WW's box office success are a fairly varied bunch but the one factor that they all seem to have in common is that they're not interested in watching superhero films that have male leads.
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Dec 7, 2017 15:28
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I think Jason Momoa may pull in some women
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Al Borland Corp. posted:I think Jason Momoa may pull in some women He sure didn't the last time he had a starring role which was in the Conan reboot.  Guy A. Person posted:Ah, so I was wondering where you got your theory that WB was gonna cancel Aquaman and scrap everything and this makes sense now. Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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He's a bigger star now, that movie stunk on ice, this one has mermaid fantasy and romance and a much more talented director.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:He sure didn't the last time he had a starring role which was in the Conan reboot. That movie sucked so bad. Obviously it wasn't going to be as good as the 1982 movie but like even on the most basic level how do you gently caress up "Jason Mamoa is a barbarian warrior and kicks a lot of rear end."
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Last I checked Mamoa isn't a woman so don't see how he's going to capture the "want to see a woman lead" audience identified in the Wonder Woman data .
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I'm no arbiter of who works as a female gaze and who doesn't, but last I heard Nightwing is huge among female fans. They should definitely fast track a Nightwing centered movie.
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Dec 7, 2017 15:40
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Starring Zac Efron
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You guys might be joking but I'm pretty sure this is exactly how we ended up with a Gambit movie starring Channing Tatum.
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Aquaman is probably one of the least likely DCEU movie to get cancelled at this point since it's further into production than everything else. Anything involving Harley Quinn is also almost certain since she can pull in both Suicide Squad fans and women. I think we should not use ASM2 as standard of measurement here. The movie grossed more than Man of Steel and X-Men Apocalypse on a comparable budget but somehow neither of those movies derailed their respective franchises. It seems more an indication of how badly Sony was managing their budget than anything else.
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We have the records to prove what a shitshow Sony is and was.
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Jack Dylan Gazer has been cast as Freedy Freeman or Captain Marvel Jr in Shazamquote:It star Jack Dylan Grazer is graduating to the DC universe. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/it-star-joins-dcs-shazam-1065230 When was confirmed that Mark Strong would be playing Sivana?
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that there's a high chance that they'll cancel Aquaman, or even a good chance. But they'll sure as hell be panicking right now and considering every possible option and one of those options will be "Cut our losses and start over". You know they'll have at least discussed it so there's some chance it might happen. Yeah my point is just that "cut our losses and start over" presumably includes scrapping their actually successful properties, or at least isolating from whatever they end up doing in the future. You're right that WW2 isn't for a while so can't help the brand, but it's still something they are 100% going to do because it is a successful franchise at this point. Same with SS and basically anything they can do with Harley Quinn. And they will probably want those characters to be part of whatever shared universe they attempt to salvage from the mess. Aquaman is in the most interesting position right now because it is at the perfect point to gently caress with and is presumably the most closely tied to JL, at the minimum I can see reshoots to sever as many connections/references to JL that they possibly can. I think Batman is the most obvious one on the chopping block since Affleck already wants out and now they have no presumptions that that version of Batman has any draw, and in fact may be poisoned by his last two appearances.
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I wonder how the theatrical cut affected people's interest in Aquaman. His and Cyborg's stories got butchered in it, turning them into one-note characters who weren't all that interesting. There was more, interesting things to him in Snyder's version that would have lent itself well to the Aquaman film. I mean, Willem Dafoe was supposed to show up in the film.
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Holy gently caress I forgot about that. How do you cut out Willem DaFoe??
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Neo Rasa posted:That movie sucked so bad. Obviously it wasn't going to be as good as the 1982 movie but like even on the most basic level how do you gently caress up "Jason Mamoa is a barbarian warrior and kicks a lot of rear end." I've said it before, but the Conan remake felt like it was made by people whose only knowledge of Conan came from the European knockoffs of the original Conan Also remember Mamoa saying he wanted to write the sequel
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While we are talking of Momoa First look at Aquaman
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:While we are talking of Momoa No underwater shots?
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I believe in Wan.
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Davros1 posted:No underwater shots? None yet But there's a small commentary from him quote:What’s also interesting is how even this still photo has a rather different feel than images from Justice League, which introduced Aquaman to audiences last month. Director James Wan (Furious 7, The Conjuring) says you can expect many more differences to come. “It’s going to look very different, it will feel very different — aesthetically, tonally, story-wise — it’s my own take,” Wan tells EW. “It’s a much more a traditional action-adventure quest movie.” http://ew.com/movies/2017/12/07/aquaman-first-look-jason-momoa/ I hope this doesn't change.
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That description reminds me a fair bit of Guy Ritchie's King Arthur movie.
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McSpanky posted:Patty Jenkins is a runner-up for Time's Person of the Year. ...for directing a superhero movie? lmao Dark_Tzitzimine posted:None yet Watch WB execs butcher it because of JL's failure.
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Hope we get a cool Aquaman video game out of this at least. We're long overdue for a good underwater game and I think there's a lot of cool poo poo you could do with the combat, the setting and the physics. Picturing sort of a part Ecco the Dolphin and part Arkham thing with a little spiderman thrown in. Maybe some cool fish controlling powers that branch as you get xp.
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I'm imagining fish loot boxes.
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A dating sim where you work through Atlantean men until you can catch the big fish, Aquaman.
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Detective No. 27 posted:I'm imagining fish loot boxes. Already done! 
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Red Snapper!?!?!
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viral spiral posted:...for directing a superhero movie? lmao The voting online is always brigaded.
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Detective No. 27 posted:Red Snapper!?!?! I'm gonna take what's in the box, Kuni!
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Gonz posted:I'm gonna take what's in the box, Kuni! You get... NOTHING! ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! STUPID! YOU SO STUPID!
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Sir Kodiak posted:That description reminds me a fair bit of Guy Ritchie's King Arthur movie. I still like that movie. What demos liked suicide squad that dont usually see comic movies?
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