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 yes please tell me more about how one of the most powerful law firms in the world is taking on a side project because of gigglesedit dammit two snipes in one day  skadden kittens discover a new play thing kw0134 fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Dec 14, 2017 |
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Mirificus posted:
and behold a pale horse
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Mirificus posted:
Yeh I dunno sounds like a real slap dash type outfit Ortwin has this in the bag fam
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Dec 14, 2017 01:51
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juggalo baby coffin posted:how long till you can donate to the star citizen legal fund? this could be their greatest source of income yet Ya 3.0 is literally done now we just have to pay CIG to win the lawsuit so we can play the alpha by 2020.
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Dec 14, 2017 01:51
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business as usual! keep doing what you're doing CIG!
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Dec 14, 2017 01:52
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I guess all insurance is starting to look like lifetime insurance now.
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Dec 14, 2017 01:53
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MinorInconvenience posted:Perpetual intellectual property licenses are a thing, and it does mean that you "own" it. Courts treat it as a property right, instead of a terminable contract. The question is whether there are rights going the other way (from licensor to licensee). Those are not usually considered to be property rights... just contract rights. I might be too far into the bottle to be clear here. But that seems to be the crux of the argument Crytek is making. Can't wait to see the result. Althought suspect CIG is so cash poor that any result will end up with them in some form of Title 11 of the U.S. Code (i.e., bankruptcy) administration. Hold on to your seats, boys, 'cause this ride is gonna get bumpy. That makes me wonder for going into settlement who has the most leverage. If CIG goes for Chapter 11, then are there enough assets left for CryTek to get a payout on a favorable judgement? I don't think CryTek would agree to an ongoing royalties deal since the games may never be fully completed. If CIG doesn't have much money left then Chapter 11 would make sense as long as the personal assets of Crobbers and crew are not touchable. But if CryTek can go after the top officers personal assets then Crobbers, et. al would have to beg for a reasonable settlement deal, even if it means the end of Star Citizen/SQ42 development. It also depends on how much cash CryTek has to pursue the lawsuit. CIG must have assumed they had a better financial position and that CryTek would never raise a lawsuit about the contract breaches. But if CryTek has low cash reserves then they may have to accept a low-ball settlement instead.
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Dec 14, 2017 01:54
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Just to be clear, it is super common to get the source code for a big-boy graphics / game engine. That doesn't mean you can just do whatever you want with it.
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Dec 14, 2017 01:54
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https://twitter.com/myyrdin/status/941108120390197249
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When business you do, With an Ortwin, it'll be sued, that's a Roberts
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Dec 14, 2017 01:55
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The last time a developer tried to screw over the licensor like this, it ended up getting the game recalled and every copy destroyed.
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SoftNum posted:Just to be clear, it is super common to get the source code for a big-boy graphics / game engine. That doesn't mean you can just do whatever you want with it. croberts is a 90s man so he thinks the cryengine sourcecode is Shareware
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ManofManyAliases posted:What CryTek alleges and what the facts are could very well be two different worlds here. CryTek is alleging breach of contract, insomuch that infringement on IP is a consequence hereto. CryTek also had to make its engineers available for corroboration, which might have been hard to do with all of the financial troubles they've encumbered: Quoting the poo poo out of this toxx post.
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juggalo baby coffin posted:i'm worried that because this is hell world CIG will somehow wriggle out of this Inexplicably, the proceedings will be overseen by a newly-appointed Judge with a very distinctive and horrifyingly familiar belt. He'll bang his gavel. "I'm sorry, but your case isn't as... ironclad, as you hoped. Case dismissed."
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https://twitter.com/Buster_Boy22/status/941105655842312192 https://twitter.com/_icze4r/status/941104945088122880
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Dec 14, 2017 01:56
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Mirificus posted:
I think I see it now. This law firm want to be featured in the case law that determines everything relating to "Crowdfunding" for the foreseeable future. They are going to be on the books as the firm that finally got the rules codified into legal decisions. Their victory will further cement them as THE firm to go to for this sort of business.
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Mirificus posted:Crytek v. CIG (Uploaded by qwints): https://www.scribd.com/document/367101474/Crytek-v-CIG This is the best post. Best part of it is the fact that Chris Roberts didn’t actually do any code for his demo. This has been a long said allegation but now here you go. Those golden fingers.  Apparently Roberts was saving pc gaming by buying it from others from the outset. The lies all the way back to day 0. So awesome. 
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Wait a minute Bugsmashers, CIG's attempt to show everyone "we really do have a game we're working on, honest", is going to potentially be evidence against them in a lawsuit that could kill the entire scam?
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Dec 14, 2017 01:57
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more like hand over IP
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Dec 14, 2017 01:57
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i have never been happier to see a malevolent army of corporate lawyers descend upon a company before
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Dec 14, 2017 01:58
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I don't want to alarm anyone, but it seems as though derek smart might have been right
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Dec 14, 2017 01:59
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petition for derek to buy whatever remains of the Star Citizen IP once this is all said and done
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Dec 14, 2017 02:01
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The_Groove posted:more like hand over IP
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Hey guys, I've been looking for photo's of Crytek's legal team so I can dox them but all I can find are these  Anyway, I'm sure Ortee can handle it. Star Citizen is good. Crazypoops fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Dec 14, 2017 |
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Dec 14, 2017 02:02
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https://twitter.com/Homer_Morisson/status/941100830509469696
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Golli posted:In the Blue Corner, representing the defendants: this is the funniest loving comparison oh my god it's like someone said. it's watching a baby being put into a duel with the horsemen of the apocalypse.
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Dec 14, 2017 02:03
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i want to see it. i know it's impossible but i want to see it. i want to see ortwin fight.
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Dec 14, 2017 02:04
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juggalo baby coffin posted:i have never been happier to see a malevolent army of corporate lawyers descend upon a company before This is the part where the villain is noisily eaten by the horrible evil monster to audience cheers This will make a pretty good book and/or movie once it's done. So much insanely stupid poo poo it'll be hilarious
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Dec 14, 2017 02:06
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Loving this. Loving the fact that CIGs ego stroking videos will be used against them. This is almost the best possible way for Star Citizen and CIG to burn to the ground. I don’t care about crytech but I hope they do good here.
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Dec 14, 2017 02:06
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The_Groove posted:more like hand over IP 
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This really is an "Oh what a day, what a lovely day" moment.
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There we go.
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The_Groove posted:more like hand over IP sweet jesus today is a good day
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nnnotime posted:If they decide on a chapter 11 does that mean all of CIG's financial records have to be made public or can they seal those? If CIG goes the U.S. bankruptcy route, it's all public unless the Court orders otherwise. And if it gets that far, it's only because the motivated creditors (Crytek) believe there is something to recover. Whether from CIG itself or Crobert, Ortwin or other "insiders." We all shall have to wait and see. While I suspect that this lawsuit is the ELE we have all been waiting for for so long.... it will likely take a long time to come to any sort of completion... buckle up boys and girls....
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Nuclearmonkee posted:
The DisPARPer Artist.
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The Titanic posted:Loving this. Loving the fact that CIGs ego stroking videos will be used against them. This is almost the best possible way for Star Citizen and CIG to burn to the ground. I don’t care about crytech but I hope they do good here. CryTek are actually the best company in the world as of a few of hours ago
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I got downvoted by the SC dissent police for commenting on the Crytek lawsuit, so I decided to seek a more sympathetic audience elsewhere. Karma is looking up! Thank you, /shittykickstarters!
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Milky Moor posted:this is the funniest loving comparison oh my god It's Chris Roberts versus competence.
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peter gabriel posted:CryTek are actually the best company in the world as of a few of hours ago If this goes all the way and they end up with enough money to make another crappy Crysis game, I will buy it and all of it's predecessors. It's only fair for how much entertainment I've received.
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This is the most coverage in the games press CIG have had in more than 18 months. Even the link to the lawsuit on Scribd is appearing in news.google.com searches for 'Star Citizen' which is loving hilarious to me
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