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Deja vu to the SHARP NCO running a prostitution ring.
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Gobbeldygook posted:The pro-net neuter dystopic short stories you've read aren't going to become real. Your ISP is not going to suddenly force you to start paying every month for The Video Streaming Package and The Social Media Package to keep using your favorite sites. They're going to continue to control your usage with data caps and traffic shaping and maybe nerds will get real mad when they prove Comcast is throttling their Netflix at peak hours. Its not like Comcast and AT&T have openly used the ability to throttle specific services and websites before to gain an edge, including locking competitors out through lobbying.... ....OH WAIT, THEY HAVE! Comcast has in the past throttle third party VOIP applications in order to push their own, blocked services that they felt were illicit (ignoring the totally legal uses for them) and actively throttled competing applications. And remember: Large portions of their backbone were paid for through tax incentives and directly through taxpayer funded grants. They have actively fought against better competing products like Google Fiber and EPB, and local Fiber projects, while providing sub-par services and generally being legislative dicks to anyone that tries to compete. Gobbeldygook posted:If that's the end of the world to you, get a hobby. You really are a loving dumbass if you think its just about Netflix and porn. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Dec 14, 2017 |
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The logic in thinking that telecom companies lobbying to overturn net neutrality rules just so they can’t take advantage of their newfound freedom is absolutely stupid. Plain and simple, they wanted the FCC policy changed for a reason.
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:At what point do we just put all politicians in jail and start over?
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Gobbeldygook posted:The pro-net neuter dystopic short stories you've read aren't going to become real. Your ISP is not going to suddenly force you to start paying every month for The Video Streaming Package and The Social Media Package to keep using your favorite sites. They're going to continue to control your usage with data caps and traffic shaping and maybe nerds will get real mad when they prove Comcast is throttling their Netflix at peak hours. If this is true, please find the current Comcast promise stating as such. It won’t happen until it’s out of courts. Congress has 60 days or whatever, and if it survives out of that, then ISPs will get emboldened.
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Prop Wash posted:Looks like Shim's gonna need another name change Isn't there a website that tracks names and avs for goons, or did it shut down? I have no idea who's who anymore with how often names seem to change around here.
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at the date posted:The appropriate threshold for getting mad about something is the apocalypse. https://mobile.twitter.com/stillgray/status/941404181440499712 https://mobile.twitter.com/ChristopherC137/status/941403997172355074 https://mobile.twitter.com/amyomaIIey/status/941402623655202818 Don't mistake me for a smirking libertarian with two corporate cocks in his rear end, net neutrality repeal isn't going to unleash a new era of innovation or any bullshit like that, but it will also not make Shadowrun real. I HAVE GOOD AIDS posted:If net neutrality really wasn’t such a big deal, why did telecoms have to AstroTurf support for it? CommieGIR posted:....OH WAIT, THEY HAVE! Comcast has in the past throttle third party VOIP applications in order to push their own, blocked services that they felt were illicit (ignoring the totally legal uses for them) and actively throttled competing applications. I too only use BitTorrent to download Linux ISOs.
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Ambihelical Hexnut posted:I knew importuning was annoying but never knew it was illegal; how are they going to make another fast and furious movie if the cast and crew all get arrested? Actual lol at the astroglide and Vaseline. Yeah sure dude you’re so huge you’ll need it 
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Gobbeldygook posted:Comcast pushing their own lovely VOIP application is like a 2 on the scale of corporate evil. You don't get to proclaim "Free Market is good and will provide" while sweeping aside actual market cronyism and say there's nothing to see here. Please continue to help convince us how loving stupid you are.
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Get the gently caress out of GiP. I’m banning you if you post in here again. This is your only warning.
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Gobbeldygook posted:Don't mistake me for a smirking libertarian with two corporate cocks in his rear end, net neutrality repeal isn't going to unleash a new era of innovation or any bullshit like that, but it will also not make Shadowrun real. You replied to my mocking you for blatantly exaggerating the anti-NN position by changing the exaggeration to Shadowrun. When you get tired of calling us all Chicken Littles and want to engage with the real arguments against net neutrality, please do. So far you've ignored most of the real, existing examples of ISPs loving with Internet traffic and haven't begun to say (1) why net neutrality regs are actually bad or (2) why deregulation won't negatively affect consumers. Because unless you are somehow convinced of (1), then there was no reason to go to all this effort and oppose the vast majority of the voting public to get rid of the regs. And saying "it will only hurt consumers a little bit" while Comcast takes slow practice swings at our kneecaps isn't a very good answer to (2). Until then, I join with everyone else in this thread in telling you to gently caress off.
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Washington Post has a very god piece regarding Trump’s bullheaded stance concerning Russian election interference. It is definitely worth your time. https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...m=.019705aa213d
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At the risk of looking like I'm trying to import gunchat (I'm really not), here is a piece that is not pro-gun and it is not a gun control piece, but it's a look into the study of gunshot victims, costs associated, how we don't really know what the gently caress is going on with gun violence, and research is sorely lacking, both private and public. It's a good read and if it inspires you to go into full pro/anti-gunchat mode, do us all a favor and don't do it here. Just thought it was an interesting piece with a lot of intersections with healthcare, poverty, victim issues, widely varying local practices, government accountability, and more. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/12/guns-nonfatal-shooting-newtown-las-vegas/548372/
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cowboy elvis posted:Washington Post has a very god piece regarding Trump’s bullheaded stance concerning Russian election interference. This was something that really stuck out, it isn't new but every time I see things like that brought up I just get sadder. quote:His demeanor with the German leader was in striking contrast with his encounters with Putin and other authoritarian figures. “Who are the three guys in the world he most admires? President Xi [Jinping] of China, [Turkish President Recep Tayyip] Erdogan and Putin,” one Trump adviser said. “They’re all the same guy.”
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I'm the serious post of Ian Miles Cheong
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:At what point do we just put all politicians in jail and start over? https://twitter.com/leyawn/status/860199590599020544
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Those "Second amendment protects the First" gently caress-o's have been awfully quiet today.
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:I'm the serious post of Ian Miles Cheong Yeah, that was kind of the best example of absolute bullshit in there
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CommieGIR posted:You really are a loving dumbass if you think its just about Netflix and porn. For a fuckton of people, porn and netflix is what it's all about. He's still a dumbass though. I think the repeal was a bad decision, but I don't think net services are gonna go to hell all that quickly. Right now all eyes are on them, and I think it'll be more like boiling a frog. Although, I was wrong about how quickly the alt-right chucklefucks would become emboldened, so with that firmly in mind I wouldn't be surprised at all if they gently caress you guys over sooner.
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Wasabi the J posted:Those "Second amendment protects the First" gently caress-o's have been awfully quiet today. Tangentially related but JJ McNab, who was tracking the Bundy’s and other RW extremists before they were on the national radar, unearthed some really weird poo poo about Adam Lanza. Thread is short but interesting. https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/941323987438710785
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FastestGunAlive posted:I really kept up with the bundies for a while because I wanted to see them all jailed but I kind of fell off on keeping up with it. Kind of lost heart after some of the defendants weren’t convicted Didn't that whole mess start because of a desert tortoise? I remember something about how the land was considered protected habitat, and that's why he couldn't graze there anymore.
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BigDave posted:Didn't that whole mess start because of a desert tortoise? I remember something about how the land was considered protected habitat, and that's why he couldn't graze there anymore. No, it was because he just wasn't paying grazing fees and was mooching his business off government owned grass for free. So basically, he committed a lot of theft and got mad about it when the hammer finally came down. E: and by came down, I mean his armed protestor pals got BLM to just release the cattle and he continues to graze for profits without paying fees. mlmp08 fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Dec 14, 2017 |
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I'm almost surprised that Cliven wasn't given a cabinet position
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John Schindler and Rick Wilson seem to be suggesting something's going on with Fredo edit: Fredo is a nickname for Don Jr. vvvvvvv shyduck fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Dec 15, 2017 |
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shyduck posted:John Schindler and Rick Wilson seem to be suggesting something's going on with Fredo Fredo who
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mlmp08 posted:No, it was because he just wasn't paying grazing fees and was mooching his business off government owned grass for free. Grazing fees that were below “market price” at that.
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:I'm almost surprised that Cliven wasn't given a cabinet position I know just the Bureau to put him in charge of
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cowboy elvis posted:Fredo who Don Jr I think
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cowboy elvis posted:Fredo who I thought Fredo was our reporting name for Kushner. mlmp08 posted:No, it was because he just wasn't paying grazing fees and was mooching his business off government owned grass for free. http://www.newsweek.com/cliven-bundy-stand-collision-between-ranchers-and-tortoises-252840 And the tortoises. Can't forget those.
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Weren't like half the Bundy's cows emaciated as gently caress since they're lovely ranchers
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Proud Christian Mom posted:Weren't like half the Bundy's cows emaciated as gently caress since they're lovely ranchers Yeah, BLM reported most of them would never be suitable for sale, hence why they also went forward with seizing them: Bundy was never going to be able to pay back.
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Here's a Bundy update from yesterday http://www.newsweek.com/mormon-religionjustify-extreme-anti-government-ideology-cliven-bundy-case-746698 quote:The Bundy family, which includes Cliven and his 14 children, is deeply influenced by its Mormon faith, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the Book of Mormon. But researchers at the Southern Poverty Law Center have noted that the family and its supporters also follow a text called The Nay Book, allegedly compiled by Bundy’s friend and fellow rancher Keith Allen Nay, who died in 1997.
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My apolitical friend texting me about how he’s going to get buttfucked by the GOP tax plan and getting progressively upset about it is pretty funny.
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shyduck posted:John Schindler and Rick Wilson seem to be suggesting something's going on with Fredo Ehhhh, Schindler used to be pretty good but as of late he's made a lot of bold statements. Not saying he's wrong just don't get your hopes up too much.
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I HAVE GOOD AIDS posted:Tangentially related but JJ McNab, who was tracking the Bundy’s and other RW extremists before they were on the national radar, unearthed some really weird poo poo about Adam Lanza. Thread is short but interesting. Top reply, according to whatever twitter has done to my threads now: https://twitter.com/paparcura/status/941338942682615808
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