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Uroboros posted:Speaking of big events I am kind of at an impasse on what to take to the championship. Are you set on Marines or not even decided that far? The only thing I know you play is the Ultras.
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If you're not a huge Guilliman fan, Salamanders MSU is also a good alternative for shooty SM.
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GET INTO DA CHOPPA posted:If you're not a huge Guilliman fan, Salamanders MSU is also a good alternative for shooty SM. I feel the salamander chapter tactic needs more recognition, it turns dreadnoughts into absolute murder machines.
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I'm leaning towards setting up a unit of 10 heavy Hellbois, so they can use Grim Resolve to explode less while constantly overcharging, just kind of a shittier devastator squad. Leaning towards one huge squad to get the most out of the 1CP "+1 damage" strategem, and maybe park a Lt next to them for the re-rolls on wounds. This may not be a great use of 400 points, but it's loving cool and strikes me as Dark Angel-y as all hell.
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FiestaNinja posted:I'm finally 'done' with my Knight, I had a lot of fun doing this thing and learned a lot about painting things larger than a dreadnought. Once I have some time to practice writing 'Indicter' over and over with a micron pen I'll finish off the little name scroll. TheChirurgeon posted:I just went up against BuffaloChicken in a 1k-point game where I struggled to take out his Manticore and Leman Russ but that was because my heavy weapons were a Defiler and two autocannons, not because he was cheesing poo poo out.   Eternal RIPs to suicide-charge "Iron Gut" Jameson for dying in the great Deflier explosion of '17. Also, most decidedly NOT trying to stoke the flames of female Marine discussion again, but here's the first of several lady Catachan from the Escher kit.  Escher torsos on slimmed-down Catachan legs look great. Just need to cut off some torso detail and liquid greenstuff over the bare midriffs to get some even tank tops and they'll fit right it.
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BuffaloChicken posted:
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Booyah- posted:How are the hellblaster assault and heavy variants? I'm deciding how I'd configure a group of them, probably 5 and 5 but not sure which two of the three weapon options. I did some maths: pre:Number of Kills Against Various Targets for Plasma Incinerator Variants Weapon T3/6+/1W T4/5+/1W T4/3+/1W T4/2+/2W T7/3+/11W T8/2+/16W ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rapid Fire 0.56 0.44 0.44 0.19 0.03 0.01 Rapid Fire (<12") 1.11 0.89 0.89 0.37 0.06 0.02 Hot Rapid Fire 0.56 0.56 0.56 0.46 0.08 0.03 Hot Rapid Fire (<12") 1.11 1.11 1.11 0.93 0.16 0.07 Assault 1.11 0.89 0.89 0.37 0.04 0.02 Hot Assault 1.11 0.89 0.89 0.74 0.12 0.05 Heavy 0.56 0.56 0.56 0.23 0.04 0.02 Hot Heavy 0.56 0.56 0.56 0.46 0.08 0.05 Macro 1.94 1.94 1.94 0.81 0.14 0.06 Macro (Hot) 1.94 1.94 1.94 1.62 0.28 0.16
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mango sentinel posted:Warhammer 40keighteen owns. I am vindicated
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ANAmal.net posted:I'm leaning towards setting up a unit of 10 heavy Hellbois, so they can use Grim Resolve to explode less while constantly overcharging, just kind of a shittier devastator squad. Leaning towards one huge squad to get the most out of the 1CP "+1 damage" strategem, and maybe park a Lt next to them for the re-rolls on wounds. This may not be a great use of 400 points, but it's loving cool and strikes me as Dark Angel-y as all hell. On a lark I decided to see what would happen if you added one more damage; it looks like the assault incinerators get even better since they have more shots.
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No one can tell the difference between the assault and rapid fire hellblaster guns anyway so it’s more versatile in that way too.
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Sharks Dont Sleep posted:No one can tell the difference between the assault and rapid fire hellblaster guns anyway so it’s more versatile in that way too. Yeah, as far as I can tell it's a little thing on the front? If someone called me out on that I'd shrug and admit I had no idea what I was doing.
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JoshTheStampede posted:That may be an overall Adepticon thing though - before registration opened they warned that last year their most popular painting classes sold out "within hours". This year most of the seminars sold out within minutes. Several sold out while I was checking out, and I was sitting at my computer waiting the moment they opened. Yeah, I reconsidered going because all the stuff I wanted to do filled up and had deep waitlists within an hour.
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I got that Russian modular terrain in the mail today after waiting a month (as is usual for Russia) and I have to say, it doesn't look nearly as bad or as toy-like as people in this thread made it out to be, I think I'll have fun painting this But should I glue everything together before I paint it, or wait for afterwards? I was kind of hoping to take advantage of the modular aspect of it but I don't know how sturdy the connectors are gonna be
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I did some maths: This is extremely helpful.
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The Sex Cannon posted:This is extremely helpful. Agreed. I tend to prefer "Damage Done" instead of "models killed" for high toughness/high wound levels of comparison simply because there are so many tanks with so many different amounts of wounds, but this is a very good table.
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goose willis posted:I'm considering writing a guide on slamming hams on the cheap: good idea / bad idea Yes please
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Corrode posted:Are you set on Marines or not even decided that far? The only thing I know you play is the Ultras. Ultramarines is all I have. Not sure if I should run a couple forgeworld ball busters with Guilliman or bring some lesser quality stuff. With smite changes I’m unsure if I can just get away with dropping my Culexus and running a couple librarians to handle my anti-psyker duties.
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Strobe posted:Agreed. I tend to prefer "Damage Done" instead of "models killed" for high toughness/high wound levels of comparison simply because there are so many tanks with so many different amounts of wounds, but this is a very good table. I hadn't considered that. Here's how that looks. I actually like the granularity of this a bit more. pre:Average Damage Per Shooting Phase Against Various Targets Weapon T3/6+ T4/5+ T4/3+ T4/2+ T7/3+ T8/2+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Assault Plasma Incinerator 1.11 0.89 0.89 0.74 0.44 0.37 Assault Plasma Incinerator (Hot) 2.22 1.78 1.78 1.48 1.33 0.74 Heavy Plasma Incinerator 0.56 0.56 0.56 0.46 0.44 0.28 Heavy Plasma Incinerator (Hot) 1.11 1.11 1.11 0.93 0.89 0.74 Macro Plasma Incinerator 1.94 1.94 1.94 1.62 1.56 0.97 Macro Plasma Incinerator (Hot) 3.89 3.89 3.89 3.24 3.11 2.59 Plasma Incinerator 0.56 0.44 0.44 0.37 0.33 0.19 Plasma Incinerator (<12") 1.11 0.89 0.89 0.74 0.67 0.37 Plasma Incinerator (Hot) 1.11 1.11 1.11 0.93 0.89 0.56 Plasma Incinerator (<12", Hot) 2.22 2.22 2.22 1.85 1.78 1.11 Plasma Exterminator 1.11 0.89 0.74 0.59 0.56 0.30 Plasma Exterminator (Hot) 2.22 2.22 1.85 1.48 1.48 0.89
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Interesting. Does Grim Resolve make much of a difference to the Heavy Plasma Incinerators? Assuming you always leave them static and rely on their superior range they would be re-rolling 1s to hit.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Interesting. Does Grim Resolve make much of a difference to the Heavy Plasma Incinerators? Assuming you always leave them static and rely on their superior range they would be re-rolling 1s to hit. It ups the number of hits from 2/3rds to 7/9ths. It makes a difference, but you'd probably end up getting more out of the Assault guys parking at 20".
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So can someone just visit Adepticon to take photos of costumes, buy forgeworld stuff, and meet goons for drinks or do you need to be registered for the events in order to go in to the convention? I've lived in and around Chicago my whole life but have never been to it before.
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Geoff Zahn posted:So can someone just visit Adepticon to take photos of costumes, buy forgeworld stuff, and meet goons for drinks or do you need to be registered for the events in order to go in to the convention? I've lived in and around Chicago my whole life but have never been to it before. According to the website, a badge is only required if you play in an event, attend a seminar, or enter the competition. If you want to hang out, do informal gaming, and spend money they're more than willing to let you. It's super casual and if it wasn't during the month when I'm swamped doing robot stuff I would
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:According to the website, a badge is only required if you play in an event, attend a seminar, or enter the competition. If you want to hang out, do informal gaming, and spend money they're more than willing to let you. Are you actually part of the Adeptus Mechanicus?
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Interesting. Does Grim Resolve make much of a difference to the Heavy Plasma Incinerators? Assuming you always leave them static and rely on their superior range they would be re-rolling 1s to hit. As Strobe indicated it improves the damage by 17%, but it applies to everything. You're better off standing still and firing assault plasma incinerators. Technowolf posted:Are you actually part of the Adeptus Mechanicus? I'm still waiting for my mechadendrites.
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Geoff Zahn posted:So can someone just visit Adepticon to take photos of costumes, buy forgeworld stuff, and meet goons for drinks or do you need to be registered for the events in order to go in to the convention? I've lived in and around Chicago my whole life but have never been to it before. Yes, join us.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:
Fb; God loving dammit beer, I was going to make a “he’s only that tall *because* of the mechandendrites” joke.
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Sharks Dont Sleep posted:Fb; God loving dammit beer, I was going to make a “he’s only that tall *because* of the mechandendrites” joke. I was actually a Primaris prototype.
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Corrode posted:Reivers aren't good at combat, but they are competent. They are good at bullying stuff like Devastators and other poo poo little shooting units, or harassing tanks to stop them shooting for a turn. I think what you equip them with is basically a wash, but carbines give more reliable threat at a longer distance. Thanks. I'll probably just do 5 of each then.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I actually like the granularity of this a bit more. I like damage points much better than kills as well. Additionally I've been interpreting the mathhammer charts on a per shot basis so the distinctions for rapid fire is throwing me off. Geoff Zahn posted:So can someone just visit Adepticon to take photos of costumes, buy forgeworld stuff, and meet goons for drinks or do you need to be registered for the events in order to go in to the convention? I've lived in and around Chicago my whole life but have never been to it before. Yeah man, you absolutely can. I'd bet you could come listen in on seminars too if you're a gentle-goon. Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I'm swamped doing robot stuff I would Hold the mother loving presses, are you a robotics engineer?
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DiHK posted:I like damage points much better than kills as well. Additionally I've been interpreting the mathhammer charts on a per shot basis so the distinctions for rapid fire is throwing me off. I figure the per shots number makes less sense than a per round, since you always fire the maximum you can. I volunteer for a high school robotics program called FIRST as a robot inspector. Specifically I am the head of robot inspection for the Chesapeake district. It's a lot of work but a ton of fun, and I love seeing all of the work that the kids put in.
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Fuckin sweet, thanks for the info on Adepticon guys. Hope to meet some of you all there!
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That's cool B4BG, still assuming you'r doctorate is in engineering? I'm really excited for the time when I can throw complex poo poo at my progeny. Hells yeah Geoff. When it comes to March we should develop some kind of goony meet up. I'm local and available for taxi services. DiHK fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Dec 20, 2017 |
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Uroboros posted:Ultramarines is all I have. Not sure if I should run a couple forgeworld ball busters with Guilliman or bring some lesser quality stuff. With smite changes I’m unsure if I can just get away with dropping my Culexus and running a couple librarians to handle my anti-psyker duties. I think if the smite change is used it'll make a big difference. From your 4th Smite onwards it's less likely to cast than not, or your 2nd if there's a Culexus nearby. The possibility alone will probably put people off. I'm tempted to turn mine back into an Eversor and deal with psykers by eating them alive.
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Geoff Zahn posted:Fuckin sweet, thanks for the info on Adepticon guys. Hope to meet some of you all there! I'm down for a beer or two
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whiteshark12 posted:I feel the salamander chapter tactic needs more recognition, it turns dreadnoughts into absolute murder machines. Wouldn't Dark Angels also bee good for shooty marines?
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Tried out running rhinos filled with minimum size melta/combimelta Salamanders squads and it turned out okay in terms of murderizing vehicles on the second turn. Also my sniper scouts managed to bag two characters due to the rerolls  Also my storm-shield + Teeth of Terra captain did some work by wrecking Straken, a gravis captain, and a pair of BA assault terminators. And then he died in a rhino explosion. RIP. Der Waffle Mous fucked around with this message at 11:07 on Dec 20, 2017 |
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goose willis posted:I'm considering writing a guide on slamming hams on the cheap: good idea / bad idea Go for it. We look forward to telling you how you are wrong about everything.
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