History Comes Inside! posted:

If derek actually uses the test guy I will buy lod, print the manual and eat it.

D_Smart posted:

Yeah, that's not good enough. The LOD manual is only 21 pages. Go for the UCCE manual. It's 100 pages.

Othin posted:

The thing about Star Citizen is that at this point is that it has gone on for so long and generated so much insanity that people think you are lying or exaggerating when you try to explain it. Like any one story from this would be hard to believe. Five+ years worth is just too much.

*Exceed original goal by a hundred plus million dollars.. still do not have content from original demo in game.
*CEO and HR/Marketing director attempt to hide marriage
*HR/Marketing director sings Nazi song to Germans
*CEO tells HR/Marketing director to just fly first class. HR/Marketing director tells this to media.
*Plucky little startup has like 14 offices/divisions/subsidiaries spread across the globe.
*In order to prove how honest and straightforward they were as a company, they promised backers that they would release financials in full if they didnt ship by a certain point. When that point came they just deleted all references to that and wrote a new *ironclad* TOS.
*Have missed every single date and milestone they have set for themselves.
*Accidentally* release dev build to public since it was on an open server
*The backers....

D_Smart posted:

Yeah, that's not good enough. The LOD manual is only 21 pages. Go for the UCCE manual. It's 100 pages.

DuckDynasty posted:

Anyone want to start bets on which of these attorneys respond on behalf of CIG/RSI?

http://fkks.com/attorneys

Take your picks...

Othin posted:

The thing about Star Citizen is that at this point is that it has gone on for so long and generated so much insanity that people think you are lying or exaggerating when you try to explain it. Like any one story from this would be hard to believe. Five+ years worth is just too much.

*Exceed original goal by a hundred plus million dollars.. still do not have content from original demo in game.
*CEO and HR/Marketing director attempt to hide marriage
*HR/Marketing director sings Nazi song to Germans
*CEO tells HR/Marketing director to just fly first class. HR/Marketing director tells this to media.
*Plucky little startup has like 14 offices/divisions/subsidiaries spread across the globe.
*In order to prove how honest and straightforward they were as a company, they promised backers that they would release financials in full if they didnt ship by a certain point. When that point came they just deleted all references to that and wrote a new *ironclad* TOS.
*Have missed every single date and milestone they have set for themselves.
*Accidentally* release dev build to public since it was on an open server
*The backers....

Virtual Captain posted:

I don't see anyone with an area of expertise in fire and fury.

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

all the posts that he'd just need to click "jerk detected" to read? the posts that he quotes anyways?

those posts?

i can't tell if lladre is or just taking a joke post by dusty lens at literal face value

reverend crabhands posted:

Still waiting for my paycheck Derek.

thatguy posted:

Who bought DerekSmartDoxxedAndSwattedAYoungGirlIn1990.com?

hot balls man no homo posted:

Tomorrow is the big day, the deadline for replying to the suit so I would advise everyone to wear flame retardant clothing and maybe a helmet.

hot balls man no homo posted:

Tomorrow is the big day, the deadline for replying to the suit so I would advise everyone to wear flame retardant clothing and maybe a helmet.

Blue On Blue posted:

Would a lawyer goon have seen the filing now if they managed to get it on early ?

Or will it only be viewable online after the due date

Don't get me wrong i never in a million years expect them to file early for anything other than a tax break , but you never know with that willy old crobberts at the helm

Dusty Lens posted:

For people wondering what's in the picture



There are no other words.

XK posted:

You need actual hazmat crews to clean up that poo poo.

Virtual Captain posted:

I don't see anyone with an area of expertise in fire and fury.

quote:

with that willy old crobberts at the helm

Lladre posted:

So we're just going too pretend Derek never outed his alt by accident yesterday?

Lladre posted:

Simple. So that he can read all the posts he has blocked on his main account.

D_Smart posted:

It is illegal to give money to mental patients. So.

D_Smart posted:

It is illegal to give money to mental patients. So.

PrimeNerd posted:

Yeah, that's not how lawsuits work. CIG/RSI have to get served, and proof of service or waiver of service should be filed in PACER, before the timer starts on responses. Odds are good Crytek sent CIG the standard "Would you like to waive service and avoid like $100 in fees?" snail-mail letter when they filed the complaint. Crytek technically has a 60 day window to serve CIG, though normal service waivers have a 30 day window from complaint filing so plaintiff can reasonably perform regular service.

MedicineHut posted:

loving lol, how backers cant seem to hold CR accountable even for just his own bullshit statements (forget financial accountability) is simply spectacular. Clear sign the funding tracker has to be legit. Not.

DonDoodles posted:

Also posting pictures of the kids on Twitter literally hours after said dramatic posts about fearing for his family.

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

incomprehensible quote parp

Wiz posted:

I think you will find that space games are in fact cool and good and you should buy an Idris and also one hundred copies of Stellaris (it's about the same price).

D_Smart posted:

AFAIK, they were served and accepted on Dec 13th

https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/23222744/Crytek_GmbH_v_Cloud_Imperium_Games_Corp_et_al

Once they respond, it has to be filed with the court. That's how the Skadden will get to see the response. Though they will see if before we do because they will get email notifications as soon as it is in the court system. We won't see it until it goes live on Pacer.

PederP posted:

Thing is that space / sci-fi is a great setting for a game. Just like high fantasy, grimdark, cyberpunk, many historical periods, etc. Not all settings work equally well for all genres. Space Opera is great for 4X, difficult for Grand Strategy, and Stellaris does a pretty darn good job at being what it is, imo, by using 4X elements to address aspects where it is a difficult setting for Grand Strategy. Your mileage may vary. But for me that's one of the main reasons I enjoy it, and I have difficulty getting hooked by Space Opera 4X in general.

Star Citizen is a weird setting which is a little bit Space Opera and very much "WW2-sci-fi". That is great for a story-based dogfighting game that doesn't care about physics and realism, but is about cool pewpews and hammy cinematics. But it's a terrible setting for a sandbox game, a decent one for a PvP game and a difficult choice for an PvE MMO. Star Citizen wants to be all of these and it absolutely doesn't work. Even if we disregard all the issues on the technical side, the choice of setting and game doesn't work. A PvE MMO needs a theme park and content-recyling mechanics. A PvP game needs a strong meta-game based on factions, rankings and/or player communities. Sandboxes need a mechanics supporting exploration, player-constructed content and emergent gameplay.

It's really difficult to make a space MMO that isn't total garbage, and it's probably going to be niché if it works. Like Eve and ED. I think that's why so many backers pin their hopes on subsumption being SkyNet, procedural content somehow not being repetitive and "pipelines". Because what they want isn't actually possible with current technology.

They want West World or the Holo Deck. But procedural content gives you NMS, Dwarf Fortress and ED. Current AI technology gives you uh... DOTA bots? Black & White AI was overhyped. Radiant AI was overhyped. "Pipelines" give you the amount of content in AAA games. Attempting accurate simulation of physics at an object-level in a space MMO as anything but fancy local VFX gives you either Glitchy Lag Simulator or Go-Broke-In-The-Cloud Simulator.

Seeing the constant chants of "you don't understand game development" irks me to no end, because backing the Star Citizen project is based on fundamentally not understanding what is technologically possible, let alone what is possible with fricking CryEngine/LumberYard (which can be used to make awesome games, but not to secure the Turing Award) - because where Molyneux used dreams as a marketing tool, the open development of Star Citizen leaves no doubts about CIG constantly trying to do what the technical foundations absolutely do not support. This isn't about alpha or development cycles. The problem isn't the glitches, bugs, or missing content. That's just development hell, and good games can emerge from that. The problem is the stupid idea that there is some magic technology underneath it all, and that's going to save the day. And that's where CIG should be honest and squash those insane expectations. But I guess that would kill the project faster than any space court.

TL;DR:
Space games aren't bad.
Space games relying on non-existent technology to succeed despite not having a functioning game design are bad.

Jobbo_Fett posted:

ISPs throttle the connection speeds of all goons.

It is known.

hot balls man no homo posted:

Would the serving of the summons get entered into pacer or is that more of a private deal that would only go on record after the response is issued? I kinda feel like it would be entered into record as soon as it is served so that all parties know when the clock starts for the response window.

Abuminable posted:

The Titanic posted:

I’d just buy 200 copies of Stellaris.

(I actually own Stellaris and I don’t own too many pc games!)

The Titanic posted:

Wow. Dude looks good. Almost good enough to make “glowering Sandi” not ruin it.