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Redmark posted:Sufism Empire? Is that a thing now? Nope. e: well top of page, so here's a story of despair: quote:Twenty-five civilians are reported to have been killed in air strikes on two towns in the rebel-held Eastern Ghouta area outside Syria's capital, Damascus. Count Roland fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Jan 5, 2018 |
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Cat Mattress posted:Meanwhile, in Egypt... Forgotten Realms is real, but instead of putting you in the wall, they put you against it.
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Meanwhile, in Turkey, a party even worse than the AKP appears. http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/first-racist-political-party-founded-in-turkey-in-2017-turks-presented-as-superior-race-125310 quote:The Ötüken Union Party – Turkey’s first openly racist political party to run for parliament – was founded on Dec. 20, online publisher Duvar reported on Jan. 5, citing the yearly political party list released by the Supreme Court of Appeals Prosecutor’s Office.
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gee maybe someday turkey will be as bad as Austria is right now.
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Al-Saqr posted:gee maybe someday turkey will be as bad as Austria is right now.
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How in god's name does the idea of "ruling the world" as a stated end-goal still make sense after the advent of nuclear weapons? Even the US, at the height of its power in the 90's and early 2000's, still had no real control over India, Pakistan, or China.
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Cat Mattress posted:Meanwhile, in Turkey, a party even worse than the AKP appears. hell yea i was wondering when turanism would make a comeback
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TheBalor posted:How in god's name does the idea of "ruling the world" as a stated end-goal still make sense after the advent of nuclear weapons? Even the US, at the height of its power in the 90's and early 2000's, still had no real control over India, Pakistan, or China. Only because the US hadn't used enough nukes, obviously.
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TheBalor posted:How in god's name does the idea of "ruling the world" as a stated end-goal still make sense after the advent of nuclear weapons? Even the US, at the height of its power in the 90's and early 2000's, still had no real control over India, Pakistan, or China. Raving crazy nationalists are dumb.
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TheBalor posted:How in god's name does the idea of "ruling the world" as a stated end-goal still make sense after the advent of nuclear weapons? Even the US, at the height of its power in the 90's and early 2000's, still had no real control over India, Pakistan, or China. For a while, it looked like they were trending our way, especially as Chinese-US trade intensified, India liberalized, and the Russians were too weak to really do much. I would say 1991-2008 more or less was a distinct era of history where things looked like they were permanently trending in the direction of the US. However, obviously between the financial crisis and its aftermath (which is still going on) and smaller events like the Russian-Georgian War indicated that the balance of power was starting to slowly slip away from the US. Basically, the hope was the economic and cultural power of the US would make nuclear weapons effectively obsolete since no power could hold out from us for long. It might have even seemed that war fairly realistic in the 1990s as we watched Russia being thrown in chaos. However, we refuse to admit that globalization was a two-way street and that (re)industrialization gave our opponents a fighting chance.
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Office Pig posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/949495534003412992 And where are they getting the money to pay for air fueling that will now need to happen to get troops in and out of Afghanistan?  Not that I'm sure where they're expecting to fly through. What if Pakistan says "no aid, no airspace"?
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They’re just going to invade Pakistan or something stupid like that.
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Office Pig posted:They’re just going to invade Pakistan or something stupid like that. Might as well, they could start with a pincer maneuver, and at least it's not loving landlocked.
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Office Pig posted:They’re just going to invade Pakistan or something stupid like that. this would be interesting only because we'd get to see if suitcase nukes worked
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Absurd Alhazred posted:And where are they getting the money to pay for air fueling that will now need to happen to get troops in and out of Afghanistan?
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FlamingLiberal posted:Then maybe we can finally end this endless war in Afghanistan? Sounds like that should happen before cutting off the only land bridge.
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Have fun maintaining any semblance of control in Afghanistan now that Pakistan has zero incentive to try and control their side of the border. At least some Pakistani lives can finally be spared from the internal war they e been fighting against the taliban.
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In a stunning move, the US military manages to fracture Pakistan into several successor states, all of which nuke India who then nukes them all back. US troops in old Cold War gear intended for driving through a freshly irradiated Fulda Gap then secure all necessary territories of former Pakistan to secure supply lines to the Afghani Forever War. Boeing stock up 10%.
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Jesus. Apparently Kushner and Trump personally liked MbS and allowed him to arrest MbN. They bragged about it after the fact that they couped SA and got their man on top. Edit: According to the new trump book. freeasinbeer fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Jan 6, 2018 |
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is there a news site or Persian forum or something I can follow up-to-date Iran protest news. I don't think it will trigger a government collapse but I want to know how bad the crack down is going to be.
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Al-Saqr posted:Have fun maintaining any semblance of control in Afghanistan now that Pakistan has zero incentive to try and control their side of the border. At least some Pakistani lives can finally be spared from the internal war they e been fighting against the taliban. That is an... optimistic outtake. I’m pretty sure Pakistani taliban would continue murdering deaths of children whether or not the ISI tels them to.
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Punkbob posted:Jesus. Apparently Kushner and Trump personally liked MbS and allowed him to arrest MbN. They bragged about it after the fact that they couped SA and got their man on top. 3 more years of this and western interests in the ME might even get wrecked to the point that they can't be recovered within a decent timeframe.
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CrazyLoon posted:3 more years of this and western interests in the ME might even get wrecked to the point that they can't be recovered within a decent timeframe. Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Jan 6, 2018 |
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Saladman posted:That is an... optimistic outtake. I’m pretty sure Pakistani taliban would continue murdering deaths of children whether or not the ISI tels them to. The ISI is going to continue to support them regardless of what the US tells them to do. At this point it's just a pointless political game where America pretends their money is buying them influence and the Pakistanis play along and do what they want anyway. Trump isn't right about a lot but on this he's 100% correct. The USA is getting nothing out of it and would be better off not pouring money into a country that's directly funneling them to organizations that are destabilizing Afghanistan, India and Pakistan itself.
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fishmech posted:In a stunning move, the US military manages to fracture Pakistan into several successor states, all of which nuke India who then nukes them all back. I doubt Balochistan would turn against India
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TildeATH posted:He sounds like an old conservative douchebag with the Proud Shi’a and Those Good Revolutionaries Who Want Reform and Restrained IRGC lines. It sounds like an Iranian version of a Trump supporter who wants to make sure nothing really changes and none of that Foreign Influence gets in. WHAT FOOLS THEY ARE! Don't they realize platitudes RULES THE WORLD! That's how youtube got rid of religion in 2006! To draw a more serious line, national identity...is cultural...is historical...is religious. (unless you get nationalists in power which means national Identity is whatever they say it is, and yes that includes most theocracies) To me and to Dad that identity probably justifies gently caress all, its a symbol, a common heritage. You can ask so what, but you already know the answer to that...so my next is stability, progress.....uninteresting times. Humans are stupid when it comes to identity...they mislabel it as substance. Hey....this is why i thought you weren't ready for Bernie Sanders.
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Sinteres posted:They executed a Hamas member in Sinai and blamed Hamas for being insufficiently motivated to fight Jews around the world, considering them parochial apostates for only being interested in fighting Jews in (Greater) Palestine. ISIS is loving crazy. Its like a Serbian nationalist talking down a Montenegro nationalist.
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Cat Mattress posted:Meanwhile, in Turkey, a party even worse than the AKP appears. In my mind I'd like to imagine these are Erdogan's agente provacatur, agents set out to make successful Trump more sane and cosmopolitan as he whores himself to get recognized as the embodiment of all thing Turkish(and sphere of influence) But...not really that unusual, considering how sentiments for these things runs amok(Most European nationalism resulted in laws like these 150 years ago and 150 years later they keep pop up in the suggestion box) Still, they don't have to be Erdogans to be usefull substanceless idiots...and I despise quislings like these no matter where they pop up.
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whatever7 posted:is there a news site or Persian forum or something I can follow up-to-date Iran protest news. I don't think it will trigger a government collapse but I want to know how bad the crack down is going to be.  .... can someone put the word "Despair" in the ingress this time, maybe it will have opposite effect. edit: BTW....just checking the lives and aspirations of the people living in this part of Asia are more important then my narcissism and its cross it must bear right? Because I have an analogy to make, this thread is akin to a certain house in Tortilla Flat...and I'm calling as the big dumb Portuguese. 54.4 crowns fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Jan 6, 2018 |
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https://twitter.com/AASchapiro/status/949715440909148160 when the next revolution comes and all of these animals are lined up at the ditches dug for them I'm glad that they've provided stuff like this on tape so that there's no remorse and complete peace of mind when the triggers get pulled. These 'people' are literal foreign occupiers by proxy. Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Jan 6, 2018 |
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Al-Saqr posted:https://twitter.com/AASchapiro/status/949715440909148160 loving pigs
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The sourcing doesn't seem very widespread yet, but there are at least some reports that Ahmadinejad has been arrested. If true, what a turnaround from the last round of major protests.
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Al-Saqr posted:https://twitter.com/AASchapiro/status/949715440909148160 What should Egypt do? Go to war? Have the newscasters offer thoughts and prayers? Material support for Palestinian dreams gets them nothing, and risks conflict with Israel or loss of US aid. Do you feel that Egypt is obligated to P. solidarity on race and religious grounds? I respect your wider knowledge on the topic, but my naivete was impressed that they refrained from the usual hollow condemnation. 
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Preen Dog posted:What should Egypt do? Go to war? Have the newscasters offer thoughts and prayers? Even if you think Egypt has good reason to stay out of it, sending the intelligence services around to tell the media to essentially support what happened goes beyond acceptance.
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Preen Dog posted:What should Egypt do? Go to war? Have the newscasters offer thoughts and prayers? Their bribes from the Americans were on the line, so of course they had to cave in. I mean, what would've been the alternative? Without that American "military aid" the regime would collapse in a couple of months. So when Trump says that he'll cut off aid from anyone who makes a fuss, it's actually really just reasonable to go along with it. Heroic, even.
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lollontee posted:Their bribes from the Americans were on the line, so of course they had to cave in. I mean, what would've been the alternative? Without that American "military aid" the regime would collapse in a couple of months. So when Trump says that he'll cut off aid from anyone who makes a fuss, it's actually really just reasonable to go along with it. Heroic, even. Egypt gets that money for being at peace with Israel. Cutting it and risking an actual anti-Israeli (and anti-American) government just because Egypt got mad about Jerusalem, in the absence of any military posturing on Sisi's part, would be unbelievably stupid. There's every possibility it was the Saudis twisting Sisi's arm by the way.
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