Star Citizen: Death of a Space Thread?

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trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

TheAgent posted:

the long, slow collapse of Shroud of the Avatar has begun, all over RMT poo poo, of course

You're a bigger tease than Derek, where is the link?

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SpaceCurtisLeMay: Sep 30, 2016; We're at war with Goons. We were attacked by Goons. Do you want to kill Goons, or would you rather have Citizens killed?

AlbieQuirky posted:

drat, I was busy all day and missed some good slapfighting.

Derek, did you really look up Chris and Sandi's second marriage certificate? That's impressive ~~in a way~~. I'm surprised anyone in the year of our lord whenever they got remarried could be bothered to maintain a married name and a stage name (even if it is her birth name), but I guess Our Sandi was the best at all this stuff ever since she was a little girl? It's very 1933.

Now I am picturing Sandi at the end of A Star Is Born, coming up to the CitCon microphone after Chris's tragic demise, and huskily emoting, "Hello, Germany. This is...MRS. CHRISTOPHER ROBERTS."

If she's a member of the Screen Actor's Guild that might have something to do with it. If I remember correctly there can't be active members with the same name or it is a hassle to change names once registered or something like that.

# ? Jan 31, 2018 08:53

Malachite_Dragon: Mar 31, 2010; Weaving Merry Christmas magic

grimcreaper posted:

Needs more details.

You're one to talk :v:

# ? Jan 31, 2018 08:54

his nibs: Feb 27, 2016; Welcome to the
Dream Factory; Grimey Drawer

# ? Jan 31, 2018 09:03

Ghostlight: Sep 25, 2009; maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me

Galarox posted:

hoo hoo hoo ya whoah did ehp did eh woh did ol goons

# ? Jan 31, 2018 09:05

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

You know, I haven't been paying attention to the reddit for a while since it's just the same bunch of guys telling stuff they made up to each other but I got curious and, well...

... yeah

# ? Jan 31, 2018 09:06

Theotus: Nov 8, 2014

trucutru posted:

You know, I haven't been paying attention to the reddit for a while since it's just the same bunch of guys telling stuff they made up to each other but I got curious and, well...

... yeah

Anything you want, yeah sure, it's in there, don't even worry about it.

# ? Jan 31, 2018 09:53

Mr Fronts: Jan 31, 2016; Yo! The Mafia supports you. But don't tell no one. Spread the word.

VictorianQueerLit posted:

No that was a different person in a wheelchair that Derek doxxed

I think the total so far is 23...

# ? Jan 31, 2018 10:15

Rugganovich: Apr 29, 2017

Hav posted:

I'm on the edge of my seat.

That's why you're surreptitiously refereed to as the edgelord.

# ? Jan 31, 2018 10:23

Bofast: Feb 21, 2011; Grimey Drawer

Thoatse posted:

https://i.imgur.com/kkVBKN0.gifv

I guess Aslan just knighted that dog, eh?

# ? Jan 31, 2018 10:49

Beexoffel: Oct 4, 2015; Herald of the Stimpire

Galarox posted:

Hey, my copy of How it Works.pdf has this pic on page 27, not 29.
Is there another, _bigger_ edition that I missed?
(The whole document is actually 23 pages, nvm that.)

# ? Jan 31, 2018 11:29

Golli: Jan 5, 2013

Meridian posted:

Anything you want, yeah sure, it's in there, don't even worry about it.

more or less.

Usually less

# ? Jan 31, 2018 11:34

Rugganovich: Apr 29, 2017

The Titanic posted:

You hit the nail so hard on the head it came out in Australia and forced ET to touch the penis shaped mushroom while he was in that time zone.

Whilst your in that zone, open up photoshop and let your mind wander.

# ? Jan 31, 2018 11:37

AP: Jul 12, 2004; One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them; Grimey Drawer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVLUO2yuE5E

This will be a golden age when we look back.

# ? Jan 31, 2018 12:15

AP: Jul 12, 2004; One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them; Grimey Drawer

# ? Jan 31, 2018 12:20

AutismVaccine: Feb 26, 2017; SPECIAL NEEDS
SQUAD

That looks awful. Is it a bad shop?

# ? Jan 31, 2018 12:43

AutismVaccine: Feb 26, 2017; SPECIAL NEEDS
SQUAD

No way thats real

# ? Jan 31, 2018 12:44

intardnation: Feb 18, 2016; I'm going to space!

AP posted:

nothing says teamkilling like this does.

# ? Jan 31, 2018 12:45

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

AP posted:

BY YOUR COMMAND

# ? Jan 31, 2018 12:46

tuo: Jun 17, 2016

You just need to layer on the tophat

# ? Jan 31, 2018 12:48

Tokamak: Dec 22, 2004

there's plenty of room underneath for the snoopy cap

# ? Jan 31, 2018 13:01

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

Missing the monocle.

# ? Jan 31, 2018 13:03

Beexoffel: Oct 4, 2015; Herald of the Stimpire

MedicineHut posted:

RearmingStrafbomber posted:

(it's an Asp, not an ASP)

I see that Vulture in Sag A* and raise it with...

Congratulations, Commanders!

# ? Jan 31, 2018 13:05

D_Smart: May 11, 2010; by FactsAreUseless; College Slice

Blue On Blue posted:

When is that high level backer dinner they were selling tickets for?

I expect that will provide at least an hour of laughs

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# ? Jan 31, 2018 13:14

Toops: Nov 5, 2015; -find mood stabilizers
-also,

Golli posted:

more or less.

Usually less

When it comes to gameplay, there�s always less and it�s always worse.

# ? Jan 31, 2018 13:41

tuo: Jun 17, 2016

Of course they do the dinner on Star Wars day...

# ? Jan 31, 2018 13:46

Renegret: May 26, 2007; THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

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Cat Army Sworn Enemy

I am so excited for this game to come out later in ~~2014~~ ~~2015~~ ~~2016~~ ~~2017~~ 2018

# ? Jan 31, 2018 13:49

Renegret: May 26, 2007; THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

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it's gonna be real good

# ? Jan 31, 2018 13:49

grimcreaper: Jan 7, 2012

Renegret posted:

I am so excited for this game to come out later in ~~2014~~ ~~2015~~ ~~2016~~ ~~2017~~ 2018

Same.

# ? Jan 31, 2018 13:59

Nyast: Nov 14, 2017; BLAZING AT THE
SPEED OF LIGHT

orcane posted:

Okay.

You know, I had only one major problem with this game and that was CR"s inability to give us dates that were connected to reality. They told us long ago that they wanted to begin development with us on board and that we'd be with them through the process. Hearing how games are made and often take 5-10 years for anything with huge scope, we could have easily calibrated our expectations for that if they'd just been open about it early on.

But you don't get money by saying it could be a decade long process so they didn't. I am okay with suggesting that the initially pitched and planned game was more of a 3-4 year development game and they've expanded from there quite significantly which cost them a couple years of trashing everything and reorganizing into a bigger company to make a bigger game, but I also understand finding that utter bullshit and not at all what you backed.

Okay, again.

When it was pitched and people were laughing about how it would launch in 2020 and giggling about how stupid we were for supporting it, I used to say that's fine. I'd like to think we could see launch by 2017 because CR is full of poo poo and we should expect delays but even if it only launches in 2020 I'd be fine with that... and you know what? I still am fine with that.

Now, when they've given us a more realistic look at timelines with giant warnings that things will slip? I'm loving pleased. I'm FINE with waiting, and more importantly, I'm god drat ecstatic that expectations are being handled like we're loving morons and we are being told things with dates that make sense.

More than 5 years in early access? Sure. I'm okay with this.

Finally setting expectations properly? HIP HIP HOORAY and poo poo.

Oh and spoiler, game probably won't launch till 2022. If it's earlier, sweet. I'm setting my old prediction of 2019 up by 3 years for giggles so when it inevitably slips to 2020 and then 2021 I won't be disappointed. For a group of supposedly bitter vets, maybe we should all set our expectations at, "It won't launch at all" and work our way up from there rather than this retarded LOL SC STILL poo poo LOLOLOL poo poo we pretend is discussion here.

So you are sending the message to the game industry that it is fine to lie, over-promise and sell dreams. Meanwhile, honnest indie developers, who are only selling what they truely believe they can deliver, get no money.

Honnesty doesn't pay.

Good job sir !

And if you ever bought the "evil publishers" narrative, that also makes you an hypocrit.

# ? Jan 31, 2018 14:03

Tortolia: Dec 29, 2005; Hindustan Electronics Employee of the Month, July 2008; Grimey Drawer

I still think my all time favorite part of the Star Citizen thread experience was the day we first discovered AdzAdama and his artwork. God bless that lunatic.

# ? Jan 31, 2018 14:26

TheLastRoboKy: May 2, 2009; Finishing the game with everyone else's continues

Tortolia posted:

I still think my all time favorite part of the Star Citizen thread experience was the day we first discovered AdzAdama and his artwork. God bless that lunatic.

Keeps me coming back to the thread every time.

# ? Jan 31, 2018 14:34

orcane: Jun 13, 2012; Fun Shoe

Nyast posted:

So you are sending the message to the game industry that it is fine to lie, over-promise and sell dreams. Meanwhile, honnest indie developers, who are only selling what they truely believe they can deliver, get no money.

Honnesty doesn't pay.

Good job sir !

And if you ever bought the "evil publishers" narrative, that also makes you an hypocrit.

Let's look at a much, much simpler game as an example: Factorio.

Factorio started development in 2012, and went early access in 2014. It's probably going to reach 1.0 some time this year, giving 6 years total development.

Now consider that Factorio is a very simple 2D game, with very few mechanics. Larger and more complex projects always take more time regardless of how many people work on them; significant parts of development are inherently serial & cannot be sped up for any amount of money.

I'd expect the kickstarter version of SC to take around 6-8 years to produce, and the current scope-crept version to take 8-12 depending on what gets cut. If they cut almost everything out and rush as much as possible they could probably release a decent game in late 2019. They won't do that, so I expect something on the upper range of the timescale, more in the 2022-2024 range. Perhaps later, if they keep scope creeping.

# ? Jan 31, 2018 14:42

Lladre: Jun 28, 2011; Soiled Meat

Nyast posted:

So you are sending the message to the game industry that it is fine to lie, over-promise and sell dreams. Meanwhile, honnest indie developers, who are only selling what they truely believe they can deliver, get no money.

Honnesty doesn't pay.

Good job sir !

And if you ever bought the "evil publishers" narrative, that also makes you an hypocrit.

I think he was doing that thing where you say one thing but mean the opposite.
Like saying "This hot tub is cool" as you settle into the 104^F water.

# ? Jan 31, 2018 14:42

MedicineHut: Feb 25, 2016

D_Smart posted:

ps: Anything that comes my way via leaks from this lawsuit, I'm sharing it because backers deserve to know.

I just hope those leaks are not the kind you can quote the poo poo out of :negative:

# ? Jan 31, 2018 14:44

Renegret: May 26, 2007; THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*

Cat Army Sworn Enemy

orcane posted:

Let's look at a much, much simpler game as an example: Factorio.

Factorio started development in 2012, and went early access in 2014. It's probably going to reach 1.0 some time this year, giving 6 years total development.

Now consider that Factorio is a very simple 2D game, with very few mechanics. Larger and more complex projects always take more time regardless of how many people work on them; significant parts of development are inherently serial & cannot be sped up for any amount of money.

I'd expect the kickstarter version of SC to take around 6-8 years to produce, and the current scope-crept version to take 8-12 depending on what gets cut. If they cut almost everything out and rush as much as possible they could probably release a decent game in late 2019. They won't do that, so I expect something on the upper range of the timescale, more in the 2022-2024 range. Perhaps later, if they keep scope creeping.

Factorio has a grand total of 17 devs. Plus I'm pretty sure most of them are newish additions.

And it's 17 people who know what they're doing.

It was also playable, stable, and, you know, fun, starting from day one.

Renegret fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Jan 31, 2018

# ? Jan 31, 2018 14:46

Renegret: May 26, 2007; THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*

Cat Army Sworn Enemy

And it only costs $20.

Everyone needs to play Factorio.

# ? Jan 31, 2018 14:47

Tokamak: Dec 22, 2004

orcane posted:

Now consider that Factorio is a very simple 2D game,

lol

# ? Jan 31, 2018 14:49

Renegret: May 26, 2007; THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*

Cat Army Sworn Enemy

Tokamak posted:

lol

This is double lol because Kovarex released a blog post one Friday (they do this every Friday by the way, their development is for real transparent) where he outlined the technical challenges behind making the game perspective skewed up/down even though the game field itself is a flat grid.

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SoftNum: Mar 31, 2011

Renegret posted:

And it only costs $20.

Everyone needs to play Factorio.

This.

Also the game in that 6 years in a team of between 5 and 17 devs has had two major graphical overhauls, a networking overhaul, and countless additions and balance changes; and yet since at least 2015 was continuously fully playable to endgame, and with huge mod support. And a tutorial.

Really, most people would've released the game after the first overhaul in 2015, then tried to sell the last 2 years of work as an expansion pack. That the Factorio devs haven't done that is remarkable.

But please tell me about this Star Citizen game you have been able to fully play at full FPS for 3 years now... :allears:

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