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Cocoa Crispies posted:the physical thing also has batteries and bigger speakers but what i can't tell is: this is clearly a stupid idea on all accounts but here’s what I imagine the “logic” here is: marketing guy at moto: people love Alexa, look at how many echos are being sold. we make hardware, we should sell Alexa products. lawyer: google doesn’t allow shipping a different assistant than the unnamed google one on android phones. marketing: but what if we like, just installed the app? engineer: it won’t be always listening, you’d have to launch the app to use it. marketing: no, we have to talk to Alexa all the time. figure out a way to do it. engineer: well, I suppose if we had a discrete device... marketing: like an alexa speaker, for your phone. lawyer: works for me engineer: isn’t that just a wireless echo? marketing: imagine using Alexa in an elevator
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LastInLine posted:did you and everyone else forget bixby? yes
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yeah i was gonna say that google apparently has no problem with oems installing competing assistants. idk if that means you can install one from the play store, which seems unlikely given how deeply integrated they should be. the best i can figure is amazon doesn't want to work with moto to install it on the software
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Endless Mike posted:yeah i was gonna say that google apparently has no problem with oems installing competing assistants. idk if that means you can install one from the play store, which seems unlikely given how deeply integrated they should be. the best i can figure is amazon doesn't want to work with moto to install it on the software https://play.google.com/store/apps/...taACI7VzgLcgopo You can set the default assistant app through settings as well. That being said I dunno if it is always listening or if you'd have to launch it by long pressing the home button
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The Management posted:marketing: imagine using Alexa in an elevator that those advertising people are still employed is a shame
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LastInLine posted:only you can launch your phone with multiple assistants did samsung finally remember to launch it?
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Cocoa Crispies posted:did samsung finally remember to launch it? they launched it, hard-coded it to a button press, then made it so you can't make google assistant use the button press also they gamified it
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Endless Mike posted:yeah i was gonna say that google apparently has no problem with oems installing competing assistants. idk if that means you can install one from the play store, which seems unlikely given how deeply integrated they should be. the best i can figure is amazon doesn't want to work with moto to install it on the software remember how weird amazon was about the fire, they really really don't like not controlling distribution.
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Midjack posted:remember how weird amazon was about the fire, they really really don't like not controlling distribution. i am pretty sure that googles grip on what you can and can't do is a lot more subtle but restrictive than the internet idea of it suggests in fact, samsung being able to get away with something is likely a very uninformative sign, because they have invested a lot of money into having a lovely alternative to every google service, and are, after all, the top android oem. there is more leverage there than for many others
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:as lovely as tizen is it still scares google this is probably true, samsung could if they felt the need no doubt drag people onto tizen. more immediately though samsung is clearly always standing prepared to discard the google services and instead run an aosp android amazon-style, if google oversteps. all their homebuilt replacement stuff for the apps is sort of lovely, but most of googles stuff is as well (maps is the trickiest bit), and it'd mean tthat point google neither gets paid nor has any say in what samsung does from there on out samsung is certainly big enough that they could get anything of value on the google play store into a samsung store if that was the only way to run on the next series of galaxies
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:samsung is certainly big enough that they could get anything of value on the google play store into a samsung store if that was the only way to run on the next series of galaxies yeah porting zero apps wouldn’t be a problem
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Boiled Water posted:is tizen locked completely out of the google api / app world or is it treated like ios? tizen tvs have a youtube app, so i guess it's treated like ios?
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Samsung has a lot of leverage with google. their biggest strength is being able to push competing features like Samsung pay, but also alternate browsers and accounts. they can tell google that a new feature won’t be supported on their devices, particularly if it requires some hardware. they also never adopted android for wearables (lol), their TVs don’t support chrome cast, etc. it turns out open, free OS that always beats closed, proprietary walled gardens can also end up in an effective Samsung Qualcomm monopoly.
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:this purports to be a minion version of the android mascot: lol nice leeching
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carry on then posted:lol nice leeching what’s the weather like in 2004?
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The Management posted:what’s the weather like in 2004? significantly colder on average
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there is something severely broken in bullguy's brainbull3964 posted:My phone is my only communication device, I like to have more than one on hand in case my primary device breaks. It doesn't make sense to keep my old phone anymore to do that since flagships retain value fine.
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good news everyone, another
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?? i though google pay was already a thing who the gently caress is branding this poo poo? it's like microsoft all over again
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infernal machines posted:?? i though google pay was already a thing maybe they should switch over to bitcoin, more retailers will accept it at this point
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I discovered that it's actually faster to use Android pay at Trader Joe's than to use the chip reader
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atomicthumbs posted:I discovered that it's actually faster to use Android pay at Trader Joe's than to use the chip reader Why would you ever put yourself in a situation where you would have to learn this?
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Schadenboner posted:Why would you ever put yourself in a situation where you would have to learn this?  !
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Willful use of Anroid is a predictor of further self-harm. 
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Schadenboner posted:Willful use of Anroid is a predictor of further self-harm. i got in and out fast. i was one of the lucky ones... never again.
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atomicthumbs posted:I discovered that it's actually faster to use Android pay at Trader Joe's than to use the chip reader yeah basically suica > Apple Pay > maybe android pay? idk > stripe > cash > chip
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i tried to use android pay a few times and it would demand i unlock my already unlocked device and then beep a few times and ask me to put it against the reader a few more times i just went back to using the chip
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Apple pay is like the only thing I use my work phone for, lol
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Schadenboner posted:Why would you ever put yourself in a situation where you would have to learn this? the pos terminal had an android pay icon on it and I wanted to see if it actually worked
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atomicthumbs posted:the pos android checks out.
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atomicthumbs posted:the pos terminal had an android pay icon on it and I wanted to see if it actually worked it was definitely a terminal pos
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infernal machines posted:it was definitely a terminal pos dsyp
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Celexi posted:So after android split the payment part of Google wallet into its separate app android pay, they have now decided to put it back together again and rename it "google pay".
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my favorite iteration of the sega genesis
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reminder: that exists so that you can use your phone's screen as a touchpad to mouse around your android desktop
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