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um excuse me posted:How to import laws to the US work if I weren't to use the vehicle for street use? I feel like that would be an awesome autox car. http://www.importavehicle.info/2016/01/track-car-importing-how-to-import-track.html No such thing as a 'track car' unfortunately.
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I see racing car, and autox is entirely competitive as per the regulations under SCCA Pro Solo. Getting a hall pass from Honda on the other hand may be tricky.
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Feb 25, 2018 06:19
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How could you possibly get one for a street car with a VIN that was sold for street use?
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Feb 25, 2018 07:01
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Yeah like, the rules are structured that you can't get a race car allowance for a made-for-street car, which an S660 would be. You'd have an easier time just smuggling one into the country 'cause you'd never get pulled over driving it on the street since it would be a race-only thing. Since so many other people are smuggling in newer than 25 years old cars and titling them and then selling them it shouldn't be hard to smuggle them but not even bother titling the thing. Or you could start up a museum and import it that way and then take it to the events 
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Feb 25, 2018 08:18
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Here's my understanding of your rules: A foreign national can bring pretty much anything into the country with them while they're there, for up to a year, I believe. But it has to be re-exported or scrapped when they leave again. So could you use a friendly breaker's yard to declare officially as "scrapped" a car brought in by such means (let them have the VIN plates as "proof"), and then use your nonexistent car for racing? Or you could just import a Beat or Cappuccino legally.
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Feb 25, 2018 12:54
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If you bring it in and don’t title it etc... Homeland Security could still turn up and take it away. Because it is not like they are too busy harassing people at airports or deporting kids.
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Feb 25, 2018 14:07
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kimbo305 posted:How could you possibly get one for a street car with a VIN that was sold for street use? Farm use?
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iwentdoodie posted:Farm use? That actually might work? Is there some sort of body type restriction on farm use vehicles?
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Feb 25, 2018 16:17
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The two EV concepts they showed look like modernized variants of those cars. Maybe we'll actually get them here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_EV_Concept
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Feb 25, 2018 17:06
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Hey so Honda has hooked up the US with the release of the Honda S1000 this year at some point which is the S660 but with a larger motor. Don't know anything about the reputability of the site but they claim $20,000 new. http://hondacars2018.com/2018-honda-s1000  This is extremely my poo poo.
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Feb 25, 2018 17:21
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"Hondacars2018.com" doesn't seem like the most reliable source. If nothing else, if this was really happening it would show up as a '19.
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Feb 25, 2018 17:25
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havelock posted:The two EV concepts they showed look like modernized variants of those cars. Maybe we'll actually get them here. Are you saying these look like the S660? The Sport Concept is inspired by the classic S600, which I guess also influenced the S660. KakerMix posted:Since so many other people are smuggling in newer than 25 years old cars and titling them and then selling them it shouldn't be hard to smuggle them but not even bother titling the thing. It seems to be blase as gently caress to do so now. BaT has that 1997 993 that was GDM and "imported" somehow, and they didn't think twice about having the seller defend that.
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Feb 25, 2018 17:46
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I'm not sure how they did it, but I do know a few people who have GDM vehicles here in the states, shipped back after they were stationed there.
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Feb 25, 2018 17:51
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But a 993 or other vehicle that was sold in the US wouldn't necessarily be a problem, as it can be shown (or be converted) to be equivalent to US spec.
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Feb 25, 2018 18:57
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BlackMK4 posted:I added an additional rental reservation to the trip... A Honda S660. Mid engine turbo 660cc with a 6spd. 64hp. Please let me know how it drives pleeeeaseee. I've always wanted to know what they were like but will probably never drive one.
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Mahatma-Squid posted:Mind if I ask where you're renting it from? My wife and I are heading to Japan on Thursday and I was looking to rent one of these. I think I saw one for rent on Omoren.com but their website seems to be having issues. I was seriously considering importing one (to Australia) and using it as my daily driver but I chickened out. Yeah, it's Omoren  Could try emailing them.
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Feb 25, 2018 19:15
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kimbo305 posted:Are you saying these look like the S660? The Sport Concept is inspired by the classic S600, which I guess also influenced the S660. Basically, yeah, another hopeful chance at legally getting a small, sporty honda here.
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InitialDave posted:But a 993 or other vehicle that was sold in the US wouldn't necessarily be a problem, as it can be shown (or be converted) to be equivalent to US spec. There's still an assload of work and documentation required to do this legally, but yes - in theory that could be done. I think it also involves getting some manufacturer documentation / letters.
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BlackMK4 posted:Yeah, it's Omoren Ah, cool. Thanks for that. Their location is just far enough away from our hotel that it's a bit of a pain to get to unfortunately.
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IOwnCalculus posted:There's still an assload of work and documentation required to do this legally, but yes - in theory that could be done. I think it also involves getting some manufacturer documentation / letters. Porsche is really good about this actually. The certification letter for compliance is automated and available through an online portal. Had to get it to import my boxster into Canada and it as actually a surprisingly painless experience all things considered. There is also a door sticker that certifies the car as meeting certain emission standards and is tied to the vin, so if the car has had the door replaced in the past they will raise a stink at the border and then you'd have to contact Porsche to get a replacement plaque with your vin on it. Thankfully I didn't run into this issue but a family friend did and it took over a day at the border to sort out.
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IOwnCalculus posted:"Hondacars2018.com" doesn't seem like the most reliable source. If nothing else, if this was really happening it would show up as a '19. I've been watching for the S1000 for a while and apart from one article from 2015 there is basically no real news about it: https://www.motoring.com.au/honda-s1000-is-go-50581/
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Feb 25, 2018 23:17
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The simple issue is likely just that there isn't a justifiable market for Honda to jump through the hoops of bringing one over, I doubt that there are that many people willing to pay what it'd cost for what is very much a toy car. I mean, to put it in perspective, when the Cappuccino was new in the UK, once they'd got it brought over and done localisation etc, it was £12k, more than twenty years ago. That's £22.5k today, or $31,500.
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Mahatma-Squid posted:Ah, cool. Thanks for that. Their location is just far enough away from our hotel that it's a bit of a pain to get to unfortunately. Yeah, fortunately they are a short walk from the train. We are staying in DT Akihabara so it's not that big of a deal.
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InitialDave posted:The simple issue is likely just that there isn't a justifiable market for Honda to jump through the hoops of bringing one over, I doubt that there are that many people willing to pay what it'd cost for what is very much a toy car. I see the new FIAT's everywhere, so there might be a growing market for roadsters, but even if money were no object, I would have trouble justifying a tiny $32k toy like the S660 And hilariously small convertibles are kinda my thing
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The Door Frame posted:I see the new FIAT's everywhere, so there might be a growing market for roadsters, but even if money were no object, I would have trouble justifying a tiny $32k toy like the S660 So spend ~6k or so on a Honda Beat! It's essentially the same size and HP as the S660.
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jamal posted:I've driven it a few times and it's nuts. It used to be SP engineering's drag car and I think made something like 900whp at one point. Doesn't do that on pump gas, and takes awhile to get going, but still, hoooly gently caress. Look at this drat turbo: I've seen bigger. 
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Feb 26, 2018 15:52
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 Back when I was reverse engineering a turbo because precision turbo were being jackasses and not giving me drawings of their stuff. Rated for 2000 hp.
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KakerMix posted:So spend ~6k or so on a Honda Beat! It's essentially the same size and HP as the S660. Because if I buy another hilariously small convertible, my fiance may actually kill me this time. I've wanted a cappuccino for nearly a decade, but for I must wait
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Does that mean it didn't sell?
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kimbo305 posted:Does that mean it didn't sell? Yeah, this is a new listing. Looks like someone decided to wipe it down to help it sell. Now it's just a tiny white van when before it was special.
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I get that the road grime from 20+ years of being a courier truck in Japan was pretty endearing, but I think if it had a proper wash and cut'n'polish it would come up really nicely.
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Memento posted:I get that the road grime from 20+ years of being a courier truck in Japan was pretty endearing, but I think if it had a proper wash and cut'n'polish it would come up really nicely. But you can't fake patina. It had it, now it's gone.
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If it comes off with a hose, it's not patina it's just dust and mildew.
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xzzy posted:If it comes off with a hose, it's not patina it's just dust and mildew. It's a survivor rat rod barn find, and no lowballers, I know what I got.
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Powershift posted:But you can't fake patina. But it didn't? It had road grime and filth. You're not looking at rust, you're just looking at a cream-coloured van that had literally never been washed and driven for decades in a highly polluted area.
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Feb 27, 2018 01:47
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Obviously you leave it as it was, clear coat it, then drive to VW meets and thumb your nose at them.
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Feb 27, 2018 01:51
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It looked cool as gently caress before it was washed :/
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Memento posted:But it didn't? It had road grime and filth. You're not looking at rust, you're just looking at a cream-coloured van that had literally never been washed and driven for decades in a highly polluted area. Patina isn't necessarily rust. I would imagine that thing came out of a coal mine or something of that nature and it took more than a hose to get it to where it is.
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Powershift posted:Patina isn't necessarily rust. Yeah I guess you're right about patina, I've always just used it as a term for oxidation on metals that didn't really come under the term "rust". But I disagree it needed any special circumstances to form a coating like that. Decades of driving around regular roads and never getting washed would be plenty. It's one of those things where people who treat their car as an appliance don't take any care to keep it clean and it builds up and up.
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