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Guy Goodbody posted:I wasn't inviting you to explain Too bad, you're part of the inner circle now, please collect your bucket of blood on the way out
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Mar 6, 2018 02:58
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What's a "gamergate"?
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Mar 6, 2018 03:04
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Plutonis posted:What's a "gamergate"? It's a type of ant, hth OP.
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Mar 6, 2018 03:12
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why doesnt someone just beat up this zak s dude and call it a day? easy
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Mar 6, 2018 06:54
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I had a chuckle last fall when none other than Patrick Stuart, Zak's long-time friend, co-author and defender, had a meltdown cause he was finally sick and tired of Zak's poo poo.
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Mar 6, 2018 07:14
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The AuZtralia kickstarter is live. Despite the terrible name it looks really interesting. Martin Wallace, and the surrealness of being able to buy a game in my local NZ currency + not having to pay the same amount again in shipping makes me pretty tempted to back this. As others have pointed out though, there seems to be very little benefit to kickstarting over waiting for retail given the price difference.
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Mar 6, 2018 08:02
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I really hope that's not a terrible analogy for australia's indigenous peoples.
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Mar 6, 2018 09:43
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rumble in the bunghole posted:I really hope that's not a terrible analogy for australia's indigenous peoples. From the looks of it, I think they're just going to pretend those guys don't exist. Anyway, re: Zak - telling someone to gently caress off isn't abuse. Driving people out of the hobby via sending waves of anonymous assholes after them is abuse; that's a thing he's done or tried to do on the reg. If you're gonna die on the hill of 'don't tell Zak to gently caress off and die' then you are an rear end in a top hat. Also, link to his bullshit being called out by a former defender, that's always fun.
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Mar 6, 2018 13:07
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jmzero posted:I personally am not going to run around policing people's tone or something You say while literally tone policing calling out an abuser.
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Mar 6, 2018 13:10
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That Old Tree posted:Aaaanyway, instead of another Zakattack derail, in "lighter" Kickstarter news: Carmen Bellaire credited as the main designer in the Robotech RPG Tactics (a name that never doesn't hurt to write). It's a complicated situation where it evolved from a fan project and I'm pretty sure Ninja Division had their fingers in there at some point design-wise, but if you want to know why he was targeted for flak, that'd be part of why. But yeah, I went to double-check and realized Siembieda had been acting like Wave 2 was still coming was of last December. It's kind of amazing how long they were trying to string people along (badly).
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Mar 6, 2018 13:16
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Mors Rattus posted:Anyway, re: Zak Pretty please?
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Mar 6, 2018 15:05
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So this Zak fellow is clearly scum and I ABSOLUTELY wish that MDT had handled his response better. However I do just want to say that some of the best gaming moments in my life have been playing with MDT at cons. I think he is a fantastic GM and Magpie put a lot of love and quality into their work. Obviously you should follow your outrage compass on this one if you must, but MDT is not the scum of the earth and Cartel is a very fun game.
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Mar 6, 2018 18:29
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wow i am so swayed by the incredibly persuasive use of "outrage compass" lol
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Mar 6, 2018 18:31
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Serf posted:wow i am so swayed by the incredibly persuasive use of "outrage compass" lol You do you man, just trying to offer an alternate view as someone that has had actual human interaction with the man.
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Mar 6, 2018 18:39
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I don't care how nice he is. I don't want to buy his products if he defends that scumbag. If I miss out on good stuff? Too bad. You could be the saintly lovechild of Jesus, Mohammed and Siddhartha Gautama producing gold-plated toilets and I wouldn't buy your poo poo if you defend Zak S.
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Mar 6, 2018 18:51
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ZachAttack posted:You do you man, just trying to offer an alternate view as someone that has had actual human interaction with the man. cool, next time you have a human interaction with the man consider telling him to stop throwing his friends under the bus in defense of a subhuman like zak s
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Mar 6, 2018 18:55
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ZachAttack posted:You do you man, just trying to offer an alternate view as someone that has had actual human interaction with the man. it doesn't matter, is the point. whether or not people think that the behaviour at issue is bad enough to avoid his products over, why would the fact that he was also nice to you at cons and a good gm matter?
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Mar 6, 2018 19:15
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So, CMON are at it again with another version of Zombicide. This time it's in spaaaaace... https://cmon.com/news/zombicide-invader-kickstarter-announced
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Mar 6, 2018 19:22
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:it doesn't matter, is the point. whether or not people think that the behaviour at issue is bad enough to avoid his products over, why would the fact that he was also nice to you at cons and a good gm matter? I lurk this thread %99 of the time, and I assume others do as well. I am not trying to change yours, Serf's or whoever's minds on this, but maybe there are other people on the fence here. MDT was pretty influential on my development as a role player and I just want to stick up for him and especially the other people at Magpie. After all, you guys are calling him out for NOT sticking up for his colleague and I think there is more to him than this series of lovely online interactions he had. I am not trying to rile anyone up or whatever. If you have made up your mind, then fine, no problem. If you haven't, then maybe check out their stuff.
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Mar 6, 2018 19:50
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If you don't want to buy something because of stupid drama you dont need to make a post out of it
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Mar 6, 2018 19:53
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ZachAttack posted:I lurk this thread %99 of the time, and I assume others do as well. I am not trying to change yours, Serf's or whoever's minds on this, but maybe there are other people on the fence here. MDT was pretty influential on my development as a role player and I just want to stick up for him and especially the other people at Magpie. After all, you guys are calling him out for NOT sticking up for his colleague and I think there is more to him than this series of lovely online interactions he had. I don't think I've called him out for anything, I'm just explaining to you that "I know him, he's a nice guy" is completely irrelevant to this kind of discussion, as it should be
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ZachAttack posted:I lurk this thread %99 of the time, and I assume others do as well. I am not trying to change yours, Serf's or whoever's minds on this, but maybe there are other people on the fence here. MDT was pretty influential on my development as a role player and I just want to stick up for him and especially the other people at Magpie. After all, you guys are calling him out for NOT sticking up for his colleague and I think there is more to him than this series of lovely online interactions he had. My guy, this is not me on the internet trying to say MDT is a bad person and should be ostracized. It's a boycott. We (or at least I) want MDT to change his policy, specifically his policy of not apologizing for throwing his buddy under the bus to defend a guy who was harassing that buddy, and who has also harassed many other people. (And who, incidentally, called me a sociopath in one post on his blog; I don't think that really rises to harassment, but it's still lovely.) A boycott is a publicized refusal to do business with some party until that party changes their policies. If and when MDT does change this policy, I will absolutely resume doing business with him and his company, on the same basis with which I do business with other elfgame companies (which is, if they have a good game and I can afford it, I will buy it).
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Mar 6, 2018 19:56
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:I don't think I've called him out for anything, I'm just explaining to you that "I know him, he's a nice guy" is completely irrelevant to this kind of discussion, as it should be What I actually said was: "I think he is a fantastic GM and Magpie put a lot of love and quality into their work." Meaning I like the products they make and I think they are good. Which seems, like, the entire point of this entire thread...?
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Mar 6, 2018 19:57
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ZachAttack posted:What I actually said was: "I think he is a fantastic GM and Magpie put a lot of love and quality into their work." dude, I can read what you actually said, and you repeatedly invoked your personal interactions with him as a counterpoint to "he did this thing that people think is lovely"
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Mar 6, 2018 20:02
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Zark the Damned posted:So, CMON are at it again with another version of Zombicide. This time it's in spaaaaace... I'm not familiar with Zombicide, is it good? I like the Space Marines on the box
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Mar 6, 2018 20:17
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It's a decent coop dice chucking miniatures game. It's pretty laid back. The latter versions certainly seem better than the original. I haven't played Black Plague but I've heard it's quite a bit better, though I hear that from people who love Zombicide, so
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Mar 6, 2018 20:23
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Mar 6, 2018 20:26
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The kickstarters generally have a ton of exclusives, which really soured me on the whole thing.
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Mar 6, 2018 20:30
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They said Rising Sun was going to be their last game with KS exclusives, but we'll see.
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Mar 6, 2018 20:39
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lmbo, if they said that, then it was a bold faced lie. there most recent ks game was hate which is completely ks exclusive zombicide green horde and a song of fire and ice also have ks exclusive stuff
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Mar 6, 2018 20:44
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:lmbo, if they said that, then it was a bold faced lie. there most recent ks game was hate which is completely ks exclusive Oh, haha, I haven't been paying to their KS projects because I'm super tired of that company
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Mar 6, 2018 20:52
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S.J. posted:It's a decent coop dice chucking miniatures game. It's pretty laid back. The latter versions certainly seem better than the original. I haven't played Black Plague but I've heard it's quite a bit better, though I hear that from people who love Zombicide, so Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:zombicide is fun Darn. It's going to be running at the same time as Mantic's Hellboy game. I guess I'll wait and see which one to back, but I was already wary about sending money to Britain for products that might not arrive before Brexit takes effect.
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Mar 6, 2018 21:04
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Zark the Damned posted:So, CMON are at it again with another version of Zombicide. This time it's in spaaaaace... The faces of the space marines on the cover art are weirdly bad.
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Mar 6, 2018 21:11
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Guy Goodbody posted:Darn. It's going to be running at the same time as Mantic's Hellboy game. I guess I'll wait and see which one to back, but I was already wary about sending money to Britain for products that might not arrive before Brexit takes effect. Yeah that's going to be tough. Zombicide will have a lot of KS exclusives and be delivered quicker but, unlike Mantic's Hellboy, you'll at least be able to walk into a store and buy the game.
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Mar 6, 2018 21:44
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I played zombicide black plague once and got yelled at for not playing right. I tried to do a thing but I guess we were supposed to sit there and let the guy who got a great weapon drop kill everything instead of play the game. Bad game or bad experience?
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Mar 6, 2018 22:33
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The Moon Monster posted:The faces of the space marines on the cover art are weirdly bad. I hate the fact that they switched the artist. Edouard Guiton handles the majority of the art for Zomicide so it's been a very visually consistent series. Looks like Adrian Smith (of HATE fame) is doing it now.
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Mar 6, 2018 22:44
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Bombadilillo posted:I played zombicide black plague once and got yelled at for not playing right. I tried to do a thing but I guess we were supposed to sit there and let the guy who got a great weapon drop kill everything instead of play the game. Why not both? Zombicide and all its many offshoots has never struck me as anything more than a mediocre game to begin with, being quarterbacked doubtlessly doesn't improve the experience.
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Mar 6, 2018 23:12
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Kai Tave posted:Why not both? Zombicide and all its many offshoots has never struck me as anything more than a mediocre game to begin with, being quarterbacked doubtlessly doesn't improve the experience. Yeah i's not a good game. Just...play gloomhaven? More seriously someone needs to do a beer and pretzel dungeon crawler that isn't bad. I think Imp rear end is the best effort?
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Cthulhu Dreams posted:Yeah i's not a good game. Just...play gloomhaven? More seriously someone needs to do a beer and pretzel dungeon crawler that isn't bad. I think Imp rear end is the best effort? That is Gloomhaven 
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