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infernal machines posted:tesla: our murderous ai isn't actually unsafe, you're supposed to be paying attention to the road after all don't worry though, waymo has it all solved: quote:...the company's plan is for the driving technology to be so good that customers never need to take over the wheel.
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Apr 5, 2018 17:46
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the company's plan is for magic to exist
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Apr 5, 2018 17:50
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part of what bothers me in this image, is it's so meticulously aligned properly, and it's not like the programmer isn't using subVIs you can see a few, it's just so densely packed
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Apr 5, 2018 17:51
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i thought the companies plan was to always shift control back to the driver at the moment of impact to shift liability back to them
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Apr 5, 2018 17:52
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infernal machines posted:the company's plan is for magic to exist tighten up the driving on interstate 3
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Apr 5, 2018 17:52
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"We just call it 'Autopilot'. It's just a marketing term. That doesn't mean it's an actual, you know, autopilot or anything.
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Apr 5, 2018 17:55
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yes, it is an autopilot. a pilot for your auto. any similarity to the word "automatic" is purely coincidental, your honor
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Apr 5, 2018 17:57
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haveblue posted:yes, it is an autopilot. a pilot for your auto. any similarity to the word "automatic" is purely coincidental, your honor "the pedestrian. the"
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Apr 5, 2018 17:58
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no, driving required!
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Apr 5, 2018 18:01
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uh just because it says “CANCER CURE” on the bottle doesn’t mean it cures cancer; it’s actually bleach.
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Apr 5, 2018 18:02
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Proteus Jones posted:"We just call it 'Autopilot'. It's just a marketing term. That doesn't mean it's an actual, you know, autopilot or anything. "autopilots just hold a heading, airspeed or rate of climb/descent, therefore"
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Apr 5, 2018 18:03
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ADINSX posted:no, driving required! lol. there we go.
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Apr 5, 2018 18:04
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ADINSX posted:no, driving required!
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Apr 5, 2018 18:08
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"your honor, the word automobile means 'self-driving', 'auto' in Latin, 'mobile' in French. therefore, couldn't any supposed 'auto mobile' be marketed as
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Apr 5, 2018 18:13
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"actually this self driving is entertainment and thus not required to be real"
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Apr 5, 2018 18:14
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look, if we were going to have to label things based on how the public understands them instead of what they actually mean we'd start labeling refillable propane tanks as flammable wait, we do?
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Apr 5, 2018 18:23
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President Beep posted:"the pedestrian. the" eagerly awaiting this argument from a volkswagen exec
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Apr 5, 2018 18:30
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hobbesmaster posted:"autopilots just hold a heading, airspeed or rate of climb/descent, therefore" haven't autopilots been able to navigate between waypoints and autoland for like, decades at this point
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Apr 5, 2018 18:33
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obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kHa3WNerjU
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Apr 5, 2018 18:34
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ate all the Oreos posted:haven't autopilots been able to navigate between waypoints and autoland for like, decades at this point yes, but airspace is also 100% free of obstacles (other than the occasional unfortunate bird) and very tightly managed by professionals who communicate with each other and all the planes
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Apr 5, 2018 18:35
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haveblue posted:yes, but airspace is also 100% free of obstacles (other than the occasional unfortunate bird) and very tightly managed by professionals who communicate with each other and all the planes yeah my point isn't "planes can do it, why not cars!!!" but rather "using the excuse that autopilot can't auto-fly the plane hasn't worked for like 20 years"
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Apr 5, 2018 18:36
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ate all the Oreos posted:haven't autopilots been able to navigate between waypoints and autoland for like, decades at this point sort of, its preprogrammed groups of those commands though. and autoland is following a straight line given by a radio signal
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Apr 5, 2018 18:37
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ADINSX posted:no, driving required!
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Apr 5, 2018 18:58
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ADINSX posted:no, driving required!
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Apr 5, 2018 19:00
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https://twitter.com/joeyalison/status/981735719134674949
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Apr 5, 2018 19:05
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infernal machines posted:tesla: our murderous ai isn't actually unsafe, you're supposed to be paying attention to the road after all as a side note, in that article the first pic shows what a functional safety barrier does. i remember seeing some documentary on the evolution of those, poo poo was loving fascinating. they went from "let's build them so strong that it'll cleave a car (and it's occupants) in half" to "let's redirect/absorb as much force as possible"
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Apr 5, 2018 19:21
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:as a side note, in that article the first pic shows what a functional safety barrier does. i remember seeing some documentary on the evolution of those, poo poo was loving fascinating. they went from "let's build them so strong that it'll cleave a car (and it's occupants) in half" to "let's redirect/absorb as much force as possible" in my geometric design of highways class they showed us the test footage from the 60s - 70s when they were figuring out all that stuff the worst one was the schoolbus impacting a concrete barrier and throwing the sandbags representing children through the windows
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Apr 5, 2018 19:28
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plane autopilots will happily fly you straight into a mountain or other object as set elevation is from sea level not actual height and i think this fact is a large part of tesla's defense of the word 'autopilot'
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Apr 5, 2018 19:35
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:in my geometric design of highways class they showed us the test footage from the 60s - 70s when they were figuring out all that stuff your schoolin' and your jobin' sound extremely badass.
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Apr 5, 2018 19:36
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Bhodi posted:plane autopilots will happily fly you straight into a mountain or other object as set elevation is from sea level not actual height and i think this fact is a large part of tesla's defense of the word 'autopilot'  many modern aircraft have radar altimeters that will usually keep you above the terrain as long as it's a slope that doesn't rise faster than your plane can climb (you will still hit cliffs, skyscrapers, etc)however yeah the most common implementation of autopilot is just a servomechanism connecting the elevator to the altimeter so
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Apr 5, 2018 19:47
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Bhodi posted:plane autopilots will happily fly you straight into a mountain or other object as set elevation is from sea level not actual height and i think this fact is a large part of tesla's defense of the word 'autopilot' they're being incredibly true-to-form with it aircraft autopilots are at their core cruise control and heading-keeping with maybe way-point follow now? tesla's autopilot is dynamic cruise control with lane keeping wired into google maps
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Apr 5, 2018 19:57
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Sagebrush posted:
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Apr 5, 2018 19:59
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Bhodi posted:Do small single-engine prop craft have radar altimeters now? fancy! no but the new ones come with garmin nav systems that know where you are by gps and have height maps for the entire planet 
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Apr 5, 2018 20:06
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hobbesmaster posted:no but the new ones come with garmin nav systems that know where you are by gps and have height maps for the entire planet
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Apr 5, 2018 20:13
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ADINSX posted:no, driving required! new thread title please
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Apr 5, 2018 20:22
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My flight instructor says he likes to line up over the freeway and fly as low and slow as possible and watch everyone's brake lights come on as they realize what is meant by "speed checked by aircraft"
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Apr 5, 2018 20:55
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Sagebrush posted:My flight instructor says he likes to line up over the freeway and fly as low and slow as possible and watch everyone's brake lights come on as they realize what is meant by "speed checked by aircraft" I usually squeeze a couple of rounds off towards any jokers that try that poo poo. I have a radar detector, you buzz me and it doesnt beep, im poppin off
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Apr 5, 2018 21:23
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back when my father-in-law was learning how to fly the old codger that was teaching him once had him apply a shitload of rudder on level flight to introduce yaw. FIL didnt understand why he had him do that until he looks over and sees the guy pissing out of the side of the plane.
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Apr 5, 2018 21:27
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ADINSX posted:no, driving required!
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Apr 5, 2018 21:35
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President Beep posted:back when my father-in-law was learning how to fly the old codger that was teaching him once had him apply a shitload of rudder on level flight to introduce yaw. FIL didnt understand why he had him do that until he looks over and sees the guy pissing out of the side of the plane. a true forward thinker in the school of look out here comes my piss lol
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