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ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

Duct Tape posted:

I've never used pigments before, but they look nifty. I don't recall seeing them at my FLGS, but I'll take a look for them the next time I swing by. Also, are there any tutorials you'd recommend for applying them? The random videos I've found look pretty straight forward (apply pigment, fixer/alcohol, repeat for effect), but I want to make sure I'm not missing anything.

The first result is Secret Weapon's brand, do they have a good product?

Secret Weapons pigments are just the pigments from https://www.earthpigments.com repackaged, but any brand will be good for what you're doing, get the best value you can find.

As for application it's as simple as you said.

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Yeast
Dec 25, 2006

$1900 Grande Latte

Avenging Dentist posted:

I'm finally getting my new work area mostly together:



You inspired me to clean up.

That's my 5 hours of hobby for the weekend.



looking forward to keeping it clean for the next 3 months hours

Avenging Dentist
Oct 1, 2005

oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh

Yeast posted:

You inspired me to clean up.

Nice! I'm sure my area will get messy as soon as I start working on stuff in earnest again, but I'm trying to keep it clean, since it's currently my one little patch of stability, having recently moved across the country to an unfamiliar area.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

Mr. Bad Guy posted:

omfg you guys these things are so loving small how is this hobby a thing that people do. Some of the details on here are crazy tiny, I'm getting anxious just putting one of these fuckers together! Am I wrong for wanting to paint the arms separately before putting them on? It seems like it would be way harder to get at some parts if this dude was full assembled.

Your looking at games workshops huge 28mm scale. Small is when you've painted a couple of hundred 6mm guys.

Duct Tape
Sep 30, 2004

Huh?
Messing around with my awful lightbox and trying to use ironearth directly on the slate. Also used a bit less rust drybrush than on the bigger base.


It looks pretty good on the smaller rocks, and really weird on the larger one (absolutely looks painted on, which isn't surprising). The far right is my normal go-to for basing my Admech guys. Next thing to try is pigment, once I snag some.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Grey Hunter posted:

Your looking at games workshops huge 28mm scale. Small is when you've painted a couple of hundred 6mm guys.

I find smaller scales are usually easier to paint because there's less detail to highlight.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Duct Tape posted:

Messing around with my awful lightbox and trying to use ironearth directly on the slate. Also used a bit less rust drybrush than on the bigger base.


It looks pretty good on the smaller rocks, and really weird on the larger one (absolutely looks painted on, which isn't surprising). The far right is my normal go-to for basing my Admech guys. Next thing to try is pigment, once I snag some.

If you want a rusty look for the crevasses dilute some reddish brown paint and wash it into the recesses. GW Skrag Brown is what they use to simulate rust on the WHTv videos. You can they highlight the grey normally.

Duct Tape
Sep 30, 2004

Huh?

Z the IVth posted:

If you want a rusty look for the crevasses dilute some reddish brown paint and wash it into the recesses. GW Skrag Brown is what they use to simulate rust on the WHTv videos. You can they highlight the grey normally.

Had Skrag Brown within arms reach, so I gave it a shot, and I really like how it turned out. The Skrag Brown wash on natural slate with an Eldar Flesh dry really goes well with the ironearth. Thanks!

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

spectralent posted:

I find smaller scales are usually easier to paint because there's less detail to highlight.

Oh yeah, but for a new painter they can be daunting. Nothing beats massed formations though!

Duct Tape
Sep 30, 2004

Huh?
When lacquering, I've always used just used a single layer of dullcote and called it good. I'm seeing people online recommend starting with a layer of glosscote for added protection, followed by dullcote to matte things out.

I gave that a shot and the mini turn out noticeably shinier than just using dullcote. Is the first-layer-glosscote really beneficial in any way? I don't want to mess with trying different dry times/temperatures/layer thickness to find an optimal combination, if I'm just getting a placebo effect out of glosscote+dullcote.

Avenging Dentist
Oct 1, 2005

oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh

Duct Tape posted:

I gave that a shot and the mini turn out noticeably shinier than just using dullcote. Is the first-layer-glosscote really beneficial in any way? I don't want to mess with trying different dry times/temperatures/layer thickness to find an optimal combination, if I'm just getting a placebo effect out of glosscote+dullcote.

GlossCote is significantly stronger than DullCote, which is why people do that. It also has the secondary benefit of being an early-warning system if the varnish starts wearing off: if your minis looks shiny, the DullCote has probably worn off (but your paint is still safe). As for why it's shinier, it's possible you just put too thin a coat of DullCote on?

goodness
Jan 3, 2012

When the light turns green, you go. When the light turns red, you stop. But what do you do when the light turns blue with orange and lavender spots?

Duct Tape posted:

When lacquering, I've always used just used a single layer of dullcote and called it good. I'm seeing people online recommend starting with a layer of glosscote for added protection, followed by dullcote to matte things out.

I gave that a shot and the mini turn out noticeably shinier than just using dullcote. Is the first-layer-glosscote really beneficial in any way? I don't want to mess with trying different dry times/temperatures/layer thickness to find an optimal combination, if I'm just getting a placebo effect out of glosscote+dullcote.

Similarly, I have a lacquer silver that I am going to use for Alpha Legion base. The chart I found shows that Acrylic is fine to go on top of Lacquer. But do I need to do a matte or gloss varnish in between those layers?

panascope
Mar 26, 2005

Couple progress shots:

Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009

Mr. Bad Guy posted:

omfg you guys these things are so loving small how is this hobby a thing that people do. Some of the details on here are crazy tiny, I'm getting anxious just putting one of these fuckers together! Am I wrong for wanting to paint the arms separately before putting them on? It seems like it would be way harder to get at some parts if this dude was full assembled.

these being your first miniatures and ostensibly for fielding a 40k army which requires a relatively large amount of figures, i would absolutely not worry about painting in sub assemblies. especially not for your rank and file troops. focus on the basics of smooth and clean coats of paint, take your time

go watch duncans painting videos on the warhammertv youtube channel, its quite literally the best content games workshop has produced in an extremely long time

goodness
Jan 3, 2012

When the light turns green, you go. When the light turns red, you stop. But what do you do when the light turns blue with orange and lavender spots?

panascope posted:

Couple progress shots:


Is the blue+white the color scheme or you haven't finished the armor yet? I like them with the blue pads and white armor.

It looks like you need to thin your paints a bit. What line are you using, and did you prime them white or paint it on?

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
I've decided I'ma have my Marines all painted and go to Nova '19. :toxx:


I've not played a game since '08 and have been working on my boys off and on since 06

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
Finished up two more Malifaux Ten Thunders. Tokage!







WorldIndustries
Dec 21, 2004

I'm struggling to get these magnets to stick in the holes I made. Does anyone have any advice getting magnets to stick?

I'm using only super glue currently. I think someone posted a trick here a while ago, something like using green stuff as well as super glue?

Avenging Dentist
Oct 1, 2005

oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh
Green stuff + super glue can work when the issue is that you're trying to glue two pieces where there's a lot of air between them. You can also mix some talcum powder in with the super glue to make a gap-filling version. However, my favorite for something like this is 5-minute epoxy.

dexefiend
Apr 25, 2003

THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!
I file the backside of each magnet to give the glue something to bite into.

WorldIndustries
Dec 21, 2004

awesome, thanks! In hindsight I should have started with larger magnets than 1/16"

MasterSlowPoke
Oct 9, 2005

Our courage will pull us through

Eifert Posting posted:

I've decided I'ma have my Marines all painted and go to Nova '19. :toxx:


I've not played a game since '08 and have been working on my boys off and on since 06

That's a good plan. What kind of marines?

Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009

MasterSlowPoke posted:

That's a good plan. What kind of marines?

space, id wager

panascope
Mar 26, 2005


:vince:

Kilazar
Mar 23, 2010

Booley posted:

Cross-post parade.
Taking a break from my BA for a bit. Playing a lot more with weathering on this army, the boxdread was the first yellow vehicle I've painted and the first time doing weathering on something that size. I feel like I've improved a bunch between it and the leviathan, but I've been looking at this for inspiration and still have a ways to go to get to it. Going to start on some tanks as soon as a few more paints show up.












I love your photo style. Are you setting these on a black reflective surface, or ps'ing in the reflections?

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003
This is awesome.

Booley
Apr 25, 2010
I CAN BARELY MAKE IT A WEEK WITHOUT ACTING LIKE AN ASSHOLE
Grimey Drawer

Kilazar posted:

I love your photo style. Are you setting these on a black reflective surface, or ps'ing in the reflections?

Yeah, I use a sheet of black acrylic as the shooting surface.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

"Did I leave the stove on?"

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

"Did I leave the stove on?"

"...top of grandma?"

TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

"Did I leave the overcharge on?"

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer

MasterSlowPoke posted:

That's a good plan. What kind of marines?

They're the loyalist ones I posted here. The ones where someone immediately said they were Alpha Legion. They're totally not though, nope. Would I lie?


You can check my post history, have some pics itt.

WorldIndustries
Dec 21, 2004

Booyah- posted:

awesome, thanks! In hindsight I should have started with larger magnets than 1/16"

Got these working finally, 5 minute epoxy was perfect because one of the holes was too big to really hold the magnet.




The What a Tanker rules let you open/close the commander hatch, and I wanted to be able to swap those on the models. Lots of work for a tiny effect.

Ilor
Feb 2, 2008

That's a crit.

Booyah- posted:

The What a Tanker rules let you open/close the commander hatch, and I wanted to be able to swap those on the models. Lots of work for a tiny effect.
Yeah, but it looks pretty bad-rear end!

For_Great_Justice
Apr 21, 2010

JUST CAN'T SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT HOW MUCH I HATE GAMES WORKSHOP!
It is complete

dexefiend
Apr 25, 2003

THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!

dexefiend posted:

Do you know our Lord and Saviour, Vallejo Liquid Gold?






Got in an hour or so of painting Old Gold tonight. I used this speed painted Bloodsecrator as a test for my Skullreapers.

1 hour dipped Bloodsecrator, and 1 of 54 Bloodreavers I painted last week.

Kilazar
Mar 23, 2010

dexefiend posted:

1 hour dipped..

Looks great! What does this mean?

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Kilazar posted:

Looks great! What does this mean?

I never really got what dipping is either (other than I know it's a high-speed painting method that assholes apparently don't like and bitch endlessly about how it's the ruin of the crafte).

LashLightning
Feb 20, 2010

You know you didn't have to go post that, right?
But it's fine, I guess...

You just keep being you!

There's a variety of "dips" which are a form of ink that you can "dip" a figure into, leave to dry and it'll give a shaded and highlighted look to a figure that's only had the basic colours painted on. Army Painter have a range of light, medium and strong dips, for example, in both regular-bottled and tinned varieties.

It's almost like a wood stain, but for miniatures.

So, as I understand, the painter has spent an hour painting the basic, flat colours onto the figure and then dipped it. You can use this technique to get a nice looking, table-ready army done rather quickly.

dexefiend
Apr 25, 2003

THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!
I mounted all my guys on roofing nails. This is so they stay put when I am painting them, and gives something for me (and my power drill) to hild on to (this will make sense in a minute).

Prime in Army Painter Barbarian Flesh Primer. Spend 15 minutes painting him to look like this:

Not shown, painting the parts that will eventually be steel a black-grey, and the axe haft burnt Umber.

Insert roofing nail into power drill, dip him head first into Minwax Polyshades Tudor stain/varnish combo all the way to the top of the base. Remove him from stain, put him in the interior of a cardboard box and spin off the Minwax until it has the right amount left*.

If you spun too much off an arm that is far from the axis of the drill, just redip that portion and spin it again.

Use a high quality Precision Qtip (Yes, this is a thing) to suck off the excess [pools at neck, armpit, small of back, bottom of armor plates, skull eye sockets]. Wipe off the base rim.

Repeat with 50 guys at a time.



*: the right amount is an even coating across the entire model, but not goopy. If it's just goopy in one spot, you can use your Precision Qtip to remove it.

I spin at medium-high for 10 seconds, check, wait 5 to 10 seconds and repeat.


Edit: Dipping makes metallics really dull. So dip first, then metallics. It also works best for Skin, Leather, Robes, Cloth, Fur, and that kind of stuff. I would imagine dipped Space Marines don't look as good as dipped Skaven (relatively squeaking).

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Kilazar
Mar 23, 2010

dexefiend posted:

I mounted all my guys on roofing nails. This is so they stay put when I am painting them, and gives something for me (and my power drill) to hild on to (this will make sense in a minute).

Prime in Army Painter Barbarian Flesh Primer. Spend 15 minutes painting him to look like this:

Not shown, painting the parts that will eventually be steel a black-grey, and the axe haft burnt Umber.

Insert roofing nail into power drill, dip him head first into Minwax Polyshades Tudor stain/varnish combo all the way to the top of the base. Remove him from stain, put him in the interior of a cardboard box and spin off the Minwax until it has the right amount left*.

If you spun too much off an arm that is far from the axis of the drill, just redip that portion and spin it again.

Use a high quality Precision Qtip (Yes, this is a thing) to suck off the excess [pools at neck, armpit, small of back, bottom of armor plates, skull eye sockets]. Wipe off the base rim.

Repeat with 50 guys at a time.



*: the right amount is an even coating across the entire model, but not goopy. If it's just goopy in one spot, you can use your Precision Qtip to remove it.

I spin at medium-high for 10 seconds, check, wait 5 to 10 seconds and repeat.


Edit: Dipping makes metallics really dull. So dip first, then metallics. It also works best for Skin, Leather, Robes, Cloth, Fur, and that kind of stuff. I would imagine dipped Space Marines don't look as good as dipped Skaven (relatively squeaking).

Awe very cool! Thanks for the explanation.

If painted mans are on the table, I don't give a f how they got painted!

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