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kiimo posted:Tony G better than both Neither gates nor gonzalez was half the all around tight end that Witten was. Witten was actually a blocker and half a lineman rather than just an oversized receiver.
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Witten has always been number two whether it be behind Gonzalez or Gronk
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:16 |
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shannon sharpe, bitch
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:19 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:Neither gates nor gonzalez was half the all around tight end that Witten was. Witten was actually a blocker and half a lineman rather than just an oversized receiver.
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:20 |
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piss tape israel posted:shannon sharpe, bitch
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:20 |
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1. Gonzo 2. Witten 3. Gates 4. Gronk 5. Bubba Franks
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:24 |
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kiimo posted:Tony G better than both Fantasy player spotted.
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:24 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:Neither gates nor gonzalez was half the all around tight end that Witten was. Witten was actually a blocker and half a lineman rather than just an oversized receiver. Who loving cares about blocking
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a neat cape posted:Who loving cares about blocking You ask in a forum whose favorite players are often offensive linemen.
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:28 |
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a neat cape posted:Who loving cares about blocking
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:28 |
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Ernie Conwell is the greatest tight end of all time
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:29 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:You ask in a forum whose favorite players are often offensive linemen. His job was to catch passes, not block.
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a neat cape posted:Who loving cares about blocking The funny thing is Gonzalez after the first 6 or so years of his career became a decent blocker. Hell just ask Fiz, according to him he blocked every linebacker or safety who tried to defend him once he became a Falcon according to him.
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a neat cape posted:Who loving cares about blocking Who cares about blocking??? Why isn't my RB getting 6YPC???
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:30 |
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a neat cape posted:His job was to catch passes, not block. If that were the case he would have been a WR not a TE.
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:30 |
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how many rings does tony g have
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:30 |
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Who cares about blocking??? I know this is a Ross burn but running back production was absolutely not a problem for Gonzalez for a while there.
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:31 |
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Who cares about blocking??? I Don't care how good a blocker my TE is. I care how good my FB and offensive linemen are at blocking
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If your tight end can't block then they aren't a tight end
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Who cares if my QB can't throw a 5 yard pass Look how many yards he's gaining on scrambles and dives! Yes of course he's a QB why do you ask
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:32 |
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Ches Neckbeard posted:In not Jason Witten retiring news this seems like it’d be a better gimmick for the Bengals.
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:32 |
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SKULL.GIF posted:If your tight end can't block then they aren't a tight end Gates could block. It just wasn't his primary job. It's not like Deion and tackling
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a neat cape posted:Gates could block. It just wasn't his primary job. Surely his primary job is dependent on the play call?
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:37 |
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Blocking is a luxury with modern tight ends. You can always stick a 6th lineman on the field to block, you can't find many giant guys with ups who can catch a 20 yard seam pass. You mostly want your TE to do a quick chip block on an edge rusher and go out for a pass
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:38 |
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a neat cape posted:I Don't care how good a blocker my TE is. The advantages of having a TE who is actually a TE and can block are numerous. Kalli posted:Blocking is a luxury with modern tight ends. You can always stick a 6th lineman on the field to block, you can't find many giant guys with ups who can catch a 20 yard seam pass. You mostly want your TE to do a quick chip block on an edge rusher and go out for a pass Disagree strongly. You can run a killer hurry up if you can effectively run or pass thanks to a pass blocking, pass catching TE like Gronk.
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CyberPingu posted:Surely his primary job is dependent on the play call? Which is to catch passes 90% of the time because keeping prime Antonio Gates in to block is loving stupid and misusing him. That's why teams that have a really good TE typically run a lot of two TE sets. The Chargers did this a lot with Gates and Brandon Manumaleuna. I expect to see a lot of it this season with Hunter Henry and Virgil Green
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:41 |
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a neat cape posted:Which is to catch passes 90% of the time because keeping prime Antonio Gates in to block is loving stupid and misusing him. He's a TE in name only though. He's really just a receiver.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:He's a TE in name only though. He's really just a receiver. And that makes him less great because.....
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:44 |
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a neat cape posted:And that makes him less great because..... He's a tight end who can't block.
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:45 |
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iospace posted:He's a tight end who can't block. He can block. Just not at an all world level
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a neat cape posted:And that makes him less great because..... Because he's not an ambi-turner.
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a neat cape posted:He can block. Just not at an all world level So then hes not great...
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:46 |
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People in 2018 finding a way to say future first ballot hall of famer Antonio Gates is bad, lol
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:47 |
a neat cape posted:future first ballot hall of famer Antonio Gates
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CyberPingu posted:So then hes not great... Blocking is a small part of a TE's game, it's like saying Antonio Brown isn't a great receiver because he's too short to throw an end zone fade to.
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:49 |
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Do you actually think he isn't?
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:50 |
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a neat cape posted:He can block. Just not at an all world level If you put in another Olineman they know you're running, if your TE can block you can run or throw. You think anyone loads up for the run when they see Jimmy Graham out there?
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:50 |
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a neat cape posted:People in 2018 finding a way to say future first ballot hall of famer Antonio Gates is bad, lol I was slightly annoyed that the Dallas tweets were talking about how no tight end had been a first ballot hall of famer then talking about how Witten should be the first the year before Tony Gonzalez was eligible, so I'm not going to hate on you at the moment.
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Kalli posted:Blocking is a small part of a TE's game, it's like saying Antonio Brown isn't a great receiver because he's too short to throw an end zone fade to. Depends on the team, TE's are required to block more on some teams than others.. Also that last comment was just to wind Ross up more tbh.
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# ? May 3, 2018 16:50 |
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Kalli posted:Blocking is a small part of a TE's game, it's like saying Antonio Brown isn't a great receiver because he's too short to throw an end zone fade to. That's a stretch.
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