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Syncopated posted:Like how hard are these farm jobs? I helped on the family farm a bit as a kid and I've worked as a stage builder in concert venues which was poo poo work, but this american farm stuff seems to be uniquely lovely. imagine working on a plantation in the hot sun for 18 hours while being harassed and abused so that you may work faster also imagine you have no rights ... we been doin this for some time
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# ? May 11, 2018 09:43 |
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also they are totally full of poo poo about those wages
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# ? May 11, 2018 09:47 |
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Yeah, no way they pay as much as 25 cents an hour.
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# ? May 11, 2018 10:30 |
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:these people want guest workers because they have absolute power over them and can get them deported at any point. hire american workers with actual labor rights they might end up demanding better conditions and pay. lol american workers don't have labor rights
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# ? May 11, 2018 11:32 |
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Krankenstyle posted:lol american workers don't have labor rights Mostly true but a farm owner raping a bunch of his female workers would go over a lot worse if they were Americans (or worse yet, white)
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# ? May 11, 2018 12:12 |
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thecluckmeme posted:evangelicals mixed with Christian conservatives is the scariest loving cult ever I like how ultra religious people try to justify Trump's behavior. Those women are lying sluts or we need to pray for Trump so he will behave better in the future.
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# ? May 11, 2018 16:29 |
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Lindsey O. Graham posted:imagine working on a plantation in the hot sun for 18 hours while being harassed and abused so that you may work faster
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# ? May 11, 2018 16:43 |
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The landscaping guy is also gonna figure out that robots are running his rear end down real quick, so even if he gets his workers, Silicon Valley’s gonna eventually win lol that Trump’s supporters are the people that are cutting apart the social safety net they’ll need in 5-10 years
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# ? May 11, 2018 16:45 |
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Ripoff posted:The landscaping guy is also gonna figure out that robots are running his rear end down real quick, so even if he gets his workers, Silicon Valley’s gonna eventually win I know this is going to sound bad, but the idea that boomers who lose their businesses and who have these giant liability mcmansions they can no longer afford will have to rummage through dumpsters to feed themselves is pretty funny. Maybe they can feed on our thoughts and prayers?
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# ? May 11, 2018 18:07 |
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lol a shitload of the farmland in the san joaquin valley is literally owned by multimillionaires the guy who owns all the pistachio farms also owns tahiti water
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Ripoff posted:The landscaping guy is also gonna figure out that robots are running his rear end down real quick, so even if he gets his workers, Silicon Valley’s gonna eventually win As a reasonably talented Meanwhile the guy working manual labor on a high rise thinks that his job is secure because Donald Trump told him he would Make America Great Again.
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# ? May 11, 2018 18:51 |
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Krankenstyle posted:lol american workers don't have labor rights and guest workers manage to have even less than that
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# ? May 11, 2018 18:52 |
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guest workers are basically slaves because the government endows their employer to deport them at will
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# ? May 11, 2018 18:57 |
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:lol a shitload of the farmland in the san joaquin valley is literally owned by multimillionaires billionaires
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# ? May 11, 2018 19:05 |
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Shear Modulus posted:guest workers are basically slaves because the government endows their employer to deport them at will Forreal, my buddy makes probably 150k+ as a manager in LargeTechCo LLC, but turned down a move to the HQ in SF because loving lol at working in America where even the
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# ? May 11, 2018 19:08 |
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“The pay is irrelevant. You either can’t afford them or they won’t accept what you can pay.” that sounds like the opposite of irrelevant to me buddy
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# ? May 11, 2018 19:08 |
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Poco posted:I know this is going to sound bad, but the idea that boomers who lose their businesses and who have these giant liability mcmansions they can no longer afford will have to rummage through dumpsters to feed themselves is pretty funny. this is not the thread to feel bad for these loving fuckers losing everything after they've worked so hard to eliminate safety nets
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Relin posted:25 is an exaggeration but it's true, they cant retain americans to do these jobs The Article posted:Klein says he’ll spend the next five years replacing his 1,000 acres of grapevines with almond and olive trees, which require a fraction of the human contact to grow. The Article posted:Goehring’s long game is hundreds of acres of wine grapes harvested without ever touching human hands. If that doesn’t work, he’d reluctantly replace it all with almonds.
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Skyscraper posted:Looking forward to the article in 3 years when they have to get out of the almond business because California is having a "drought" in that it can't allocate 90% of its clean water to just growing almonds. I assume this Goehring fellow is pretty handy with a crop duster
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sexpig by night posted:“I feel like I’ve been tricked by the devil,” said Devine, owner of Harrodsburg-based Devine Creations Landscaping. “I feel so stupid.” Yeah no, this guy doesn't get to say he was tricked. People who voted for Trump because he had a secret plan to replace Obamacare with a beautiful health care system on day 1 were tricked. They're stupid for buying a pig in a poke, or they're racists who were just looking for an excuse to justify their vote and took that one to rationalize it to themselves, but at least they were genuinely lied to. They were lied to badly and, obviously; it was ridiculous to even entertain that lie, but it was an actual lie, they were really lied to and can say they're just dumb enough to be duped. But deporting immigrants and guest workers, and hating on them for undercutting wages and stealing jobs was Trump's signature campaign promise. This guy wasn't tricked or lied to, Trump promised to do this to him and delivered 100%. lol
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# ? May 11, 2018 19:37 |
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VitalSigns posted:Yeah no, this guy doesn't get to say he was tricked. yeah but he could have thought that trump was lying about that like every non-trump republican does
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Shear Modulus posted:yeah but he could have thought that trump was lying about that like every non-trump republican does That is exactly what he thought obviously, but he wasn't tricked by Trump.
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zegermans posted:I assume this Goehring fellow is pretty handy with a crop duster
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Shear Modulus posted:guest workers are basically slaves because the government endows their employer to deport them at will the best is the dude crying about California making him pay overtime to guest workers lol.
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# ? May 11, 2018 20:09 |
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lol at that dude who plans on automating his field I work at a BigVehicleRental and their steps toward automating and firing us all one day are pretty incompetent so far. They’ve appified vehicle rentals and half of the time the customers are too stupid to use the poorly designed app, follow any directions whatsoever, or they get caught up in the “automated”* ID/Driver’s License/etc check. And then we take the flack for customer complaints If the premier vehicle renting operation in the country can’t even manage digital automation correctly I really would like to see what hurdles Mr “Mechanically Automated Farming in 10 Years” hits. *Of course someone somewhere is being paid pennies on the dollar to facilitate this, and sometimes the backlog has customers waiting up to a half hour.
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# ? May 11, 2018 20:40 |
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Dr. Killjoy posted:lol at that dude who plans on automating his field This is also what always gets me about the mass automation of food service like buddy, I was industry from 2003 to 2012 and literally the entire time I was being told that full automation is only 6 months away. The technology has been around and essentially unchanged for 15 years, but the problem is and always will be customers not wanting anything to do with it or not having a clue what to do with it when they do
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# ? May 11, 2018 20:51 |
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Speaking of guest workers, Trump was saying like last week that now he will let them in.quote:"For the farmers, OK, it's going to get good. We're going to let your guest workers come in," Trump said. "The unemployment picture is so good, it's so strong, that we have to let people come in. They're going to be guest workers. They're going to come in, they're going to work on your farms ... but then they have to go out." https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-says-u-s-let-your-guest-workers-come-appeal-n869841 But who really knows when Trump is lying and when he is just saying whatever dumb poo poo pops into his mind that he thinks will get him applause? (they didn't applaud this)
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# ? May 11, 2018 21:09 |
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and another one Ask residents of this coal-mining crossroads about President Trump’s decision to crack down on undocumented immigrants and most offer no protest. Mr. Trump, who easily won this mostly white southern Illinois county, is doing what he promised, they say. As Terry Chambers, a barber on Main Street, put it, the president simply wants “to get rid of the bad eggs.” But then they took Carlos. ... Tom Jordan, the mayor of West Frankfort, wrote that Mr. Hernandez was a “great asset” to the city who “doesn’t ask for anything in return.” The fire chief described him as “a man of great character.” This is an uncomfortable stance for a place like West Frankfort. This county, Franklin, backed Mr. Trump with 70 percent of the vote, largely on hopes, people here say, that he could jump-start the coal industry, which has receded painfully here over decades. ... "I knew he was Mexican, but he’s been here so long, he’s just one of us,” said Debra Johnson, a resident. She said she saw a distinction between “people who come over and use the system and people who actually come and help.”
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Syncopated posted:Like how hard are these farm jobs? I helped on the family farm a bit as a kid and I've worked as a stage builder in concert venues which was poo poo work, but this american farm stuff seems to be uniquely lovely. Its the ability harass workers. I threw hay as a kid for under the table money, and it's heavy work, but it ain't bad.
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:"I knew he was Mexican, but he’s been here so long, he’s just one of us,” said Debra Johnson, a resident. She said she saw a distinction between “people who come over and use the system and people who actually come and help.” i hope the tomato she's eating becomes sentient and calls her mean names
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:and another one I live two counties over, our local mexican restaurant manager was also abducted, everyone thought it was tragic but will still vote Trump 2020
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Triangle Shirt Factotum posted:Its the ability harass workers. I threw hay as a kid for under the table money, and it's heavy work, but it ain't bad. Yeah, I worked at a pear packing shed for a summer a few years back and it's absolutely about being able to shove people around and scream at them and to have workers who have no means of reprisal.
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# ? May 11, 2018 22:15 |
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whats the point of being white if one cannot yell at not whites about your whiteness??????
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# ? May 11, 2018 22:18 |
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Everything posted:I'm glad of it.
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# ? May 11, 2018 22:19 |
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:lol a shitload of the farmland in the san joaquin valley is literally owned by multimillionaires wonder how ecstatic he is about going to war with Iran
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# ? May 11, 2018 23:27 |
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Weeping Wound posted:wonder how ecstatic he is about going to war with Iran funny you should ask he also sits on the board of AIPAC and was mad at israelis who prefer smuggled iranian pistachios by way of turkey over his pistachios
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# ? May 12, 2018 00:08 |
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Epic High Five posted:This is also what always gets me about the mass automation of food service poo poo, just look at theaters. Place I go to has six automated kiosks that let you buy your ticket and pay with a credit card in about a minute, but people will completely ignore them and wait in line for the box office 90% of the time.
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Epic High Five posted:This is also what always gets me about the mass automation of food service If you use fast food kiosks or self checkouts you're no better than a scab imo
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Crabs approve of Trump's visa restriction program https://www.wsj.com/articles/marylands-crab-country-not-enough-visas-not-enough-workers-1526031001
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business owners are dumb you say
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