Syncopated posted:

Like how hard are these farm jobs? I helped on the family farm a bit as a kid and I've worked as a stage builder in concert venues which was poo poo work, but this american farm stuff seems to be uniquely lovely.

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

these people want guest workers because they have absolute power over them and can get them deported at any point. hire american workers with actual labor rights they might end up demanding better conditions and pay.

Krankenstyle posted:

lol american workers don't have labor rights

thecluckmeme posted:

evangelicals mixed with Christian conservatives is the scariest loving cult ever

Lindsey O. Graham posted:

imagine working on a plantation in the hot sun for 18 hours while being harassed and abused so that you may work faster

also imagine you have no rights

...

we been doin this for some time

Ripoff posted:

The landscaping guy is also gonna figure out that robots are running his rear end down real quick, so even if he gets his workers, Silicon Valley’s gonna eventually win

lol that Trump’s supporters are the people that are cutting apart the social safety net they’ll need in 5-10 years

Ripoff posted:

The landscaping guy is also gonna figure out that robots are running his rear end down real quick, so even if he gets his workers, Silicon Valley’s gonna eventually win

lol that Trump’s supporters are the people that are cutting apart the social safety net they’ll need in 5-10 years

Krankenstyle posted:

lol american workers don't have labor rights

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

lol a shitload of the farmland in the san joaquin valley is literally owned by multimillionaires

the guy who owns all the pistachio farms also owns tahiti water

Shear Modulus posted:

guest workers are basically slaves because the government endows their employer to deport them at will

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

lol

Poco posted:

I know this is going to sound bad, but the idea that boomers who lose their businesses and who have these giant liability mcmansions they can no longer afford will have to rummage through dumpsters to feed themselves is pretty funny.

Maybe they can feed on our thoughts and prayers?

Relin posted:

25 is an exaggeration but it's true, they cant retain americans to do these jobs

http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-farms-immigration/

The Article posted:

Klein says he’ll spend the next five years replacing his 1,000 acres of grapevines with almond and olive trees, which require a fraction of the human contact to grow.

The Article posted:

Goehring’s long game is hundreds of acres of wine grapes harvested without ever touching human hands. If that doesn’t work, he’d reluctantly replace it all with almonds.

Skyscraper posted:

Looking forward to the article in 3 years when they have to get out of the almond business because California is having a "drought" in that it can't allocate 90% of its clean water to just growing almonds.

sexpig by night posted:

“I feel like I’ve been tricked by the devil,” said Devine, owner of Harrodsburg-based Devine Creations Landscaping. “I feel so stupid.”

VitalSigns posted:

Yeah no, this guy doesn't get to say he was tricked.

People who voted for Trump because he had a secret plan to replace Obamacare with a beautiful health care system on day 1 were tricked. They're stupid for buying a pig in a poke, or they're racists who were just looking for an excuse to justify their vote and took that one to rationalize it to themselves, but at least they were genuinely lied to. They were lied to badly and, obviously; it was ridiculous to even entertain that lie, but it was an actual lie, they were really lied to and can say they're just dumb enough to be duped.

But deporting immigrants and guest workers, and hating on them for undercutting wages and stealing jobs was Trump's signature campaign promise. This guy wasn't tricked or lied to, Trump promised to do this to him and delivered 100%.

lol

Shear Modulus posted:

yeah but he could have thought that trump was lying about that like every non-trump republican does

zegermans posted:

I assume this Goehring fellow is pretty handy with a crop duster

Shear Modulus posted:

guest workers are basically slaves because the government endows their employer to deport them at will

Dr. Killjoy posted:

lol at that dude who plans on automating his field
I work at a BigVehicleRental and their steps toward automating and firing us all one day are pretty incompetent so far. They’ve appified vehicle rentals and half of the time the customers are too stupid to use the poorly designed app, follow any directions whatsoever, or they get caught up in the “automated”* ID/Driver’s License/etc check. And then we take the flack for customer complaints
If the premier vehicle renting operation in the country can’t even manage digital automation correctly I really would like to see what hurdles Mr “Mechanically Automated Farming in 10 Years” hits.
*Of course someone somewhere is being paid pennies on the dollar to facilitate this, and sometimes the backlog has customers waiting up to a half hour.

quote:

"For the farmers, OK, it's going to get good. We're going to let your guest workers come in," Trump said. "The unemployment picture is so good, it's so strong, that we have to let people come in. They're going to be guest workers. They're going to come in, they're going to work on your farms ... but then they have to go out."

Syncopated posted:

Like how hard are these farm jobs? I helped on the family farm a bit as a kid and I've worked as a stage builder in concert venues which was poo poo work, but this american farm stuff seems to be uniquely lovely.

Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

"I knew he was Mexican, but he’s been here so long, he’s just one of us,” said Debra Johnson, a resident. She said she saw a distinction between “people who come over and use the system and people who actually come and help.”

Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

and another one

Ask residents of this coal-mining crossroads about President Trump’s decision to crack down on undocumented immigrants and most offer no protest. Mr. Trump, who easily won this mostly white southern Illinois county, is doing what he promised, they say. As Terry Chambers, a barber on Main Street, put it, the president simply wants “to get rid of the bad eggs.”

But then they took Carlos.
...
Tom Jordan, the mayor of West Frankfort, wrote that Mr. Hernandez was a “great asset” to the city who “doesn’t ask for anything in return.” The fire chief described him as “a man of great character.”

This is an uncomfortable stance for a place like West Frankfort. This county, Franklin, backed Mr. Trump with 70 percent of the vote, largely on hopes, people here say, that he could jump-start the coal industry, which has receded painfully here over decades.
...
"I knew he was Mexican, but he’s been here so long, he’s just one of us,” said Debra Johnson, a resident. She said she saw a distinction between “people who come over and use the system and people who actually come and help.”

Triangle Shirt Factotum posted:

Its the ability harass workers. I threw hay as a kid for under the table money, and it's heavy work, but it ain't bad.

Everything posted:

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

lol a shitload of the farmland in the san joaquin valley is literally owned by multimillionaires

the guy who owns all the pistachio farms also owns tahiti water

Weeping Wound posted:

wonder how ecstatic he is about going to war with Iran

Epic High Five posted:

This is also what always gets me about the mass automation of food service

like buddy, I was industry from 2003 to 2012 and literally the entire time I was being told that full automation is only 6 months away. The technology has been around and essentially unchanged for 15 years, but the problem is and always will be customers not wanting anything to do with it or not having a clue what to do with it when they do

Epic High Five posted:

This is also what always gets me about the mass automation of food service

like buddy, I was industry from 2003 to 2012 and literally the entire time I was being told that full automation is only 6 months away. The technology has been around and essentially unchanged for 15 years, but the problem is and always will be customers not wanting anything to do with it or not having a clue what to do with it when they do