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DizzyBum posted:I know they said 4.3 was coming in late May, but I wasn't expecting patch notes already. It really felt like time flew by. I mean the patch comes out on Tuesday, so this seems like the right time to do the prelims.
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Ouhei posted:I mean the patch comes out on Tuesday, so this seems like the right time to do the prelims. Well... yeah. I was just saying this month flew by, like "whoa, it's patch time already?"
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May 18, 2018 19:11
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haha holy poo poo that maleific change, this owns
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May 18, 2018 19:22
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Just gonna keep arrowing myself anyways.
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May 18, 2018 19:30
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Reiterpallasch posted:haha holy poo poo that maleific change, this owns I was expecting 2 seconds, 1.5 seems extremely speedy.
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May 18, 2018 19:45
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More time to cram in cards is pretty great
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May 18, 2018 20:02
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DizzyBum posted:Mythic Logs (the current ones that can be traded in for Lost Allagan twine/glaze) were added in 4.1, so yeah, the new mark log should let you get Ryumyaku twine/glaze. Sweet I never have to go in dumb O7S again or wait 4 weeks to do alliance raids to upgrade my stuff
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May 18, 2018 20:26
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Lol at the change to PotD. Now you exchange your aetherpool points in smaller increments!!...long after the weapons you can get from it are basically entirely irrelevant and no one cares anymore. That buff to Main Scenario roulette rewards is kinda nice, but they really need to buff the experience bonus for me to be willing to bother.
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May 18, 2018 20:31
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Martman posted:Lol at the change to PotD. Now you exchange your aetherpool points in smaller increments!!...long after the weapons you can get from it are basically entirely irrelevant and no one cares anymore. Prae already gives over half a level of experience in in the 60s.
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May 18, 2018 20:34
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Martman posted:Lol at the change to PotD. Now you exchange your aetherpool points in smaller increments!!...long after the weapons you can get from it are basically entirely irrelevant and no one cares anymore. This is more for Heaven-on-High which is going to work the same way as the changed PotD for it's weapon exchange.
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May 18, 2018 20:36
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Mordiceius posted:Prae already gives over half a level of experience in in the 60s.
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May 18, 2018 20:52
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Martman posted:It's like, maybe 50% more than Alliance Roulette despite taking a Literal Hour. 45 minutes. And you can spend most of that watching YouTube videos.
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May 18, 2018 20:53
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The rewards for the 8-man roulette are pretty disappointing. Will probably run it anyway for a bit for the fun of it but not sure I'll keep it up regularly like I've been doing for the 24-man roulette.
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May 18, 2018 21:44
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the roulette consists of fights that are like 5-10 minutes rather than a 30 minute raid. i'd compare it more to trial roulette than anything.
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May 18, 2018 21:48
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Martman posted:It's like, maybe 50% more than Alliance Roulette despite taking a Literal Hour. Put on a podcast. Watch a stream. Get your switch out (you do have a square enix-approved, and also Jesus Christ-approved, hybrid handheld/home video game console WorldWide Sinsation nintendo switch, right?). Doodle something. Do all or none these things on voice with friends, preferably while getting hammered. Do any of this and it goes by super fast.
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May 18, 2018 22:07
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Ah, the 'Eureka Defense'
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May 18, 2018 22:08
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Yeah, as much as I run MSQ Roulette for the godlike exp, the "do literally anything but play the game that is supposed to be fun" defense is more damning than anything else.
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May 18, 2018 22:34
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Man, tanks are going to be shirking me for using chakra on my best damaging ability outside of tornado kick instead of purification now, aren’t they?
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May 18, 2018 22:39
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I never used Purification outside of regaining TP for more aoe spam before, and I'm not going to change that after this patch.
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May 18, 2018 22:45
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The real winners in this patch are 10* aquariums per mansion and /leftwink so you can alternate winking eyes like a weirdo. * based on that known issues entry, is it possible they're going to blow up a lot of people's furniture if they used some of the more common methods of glitching their things into position? Thundarr fucked around with this message at 22:52 on May 18, 2018 |
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May 18, 2018 22:49
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Saint Freak posted:Ah, the 'Eureka Defense' No one is forcing anyone to run MSQ roulette. The queues aren't bad either. It feels like the people complaining about MSQ roulette just want a "level me up now" button that requires zero effort. Even in the current incarnation the XP to time investment is better than pretty much anything else.
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I'd rather they make cm and prae not poo poo instead of just upping the bait as a lure for people that don't value their own time.
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Failboattootoot posted:I'd rather they make cm and prae not poo poo instead of just upping the bait as a lure for people that don't value their own time. Why does it matter to you?
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May 18, 2018 23:28
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Sade posted:Put on a podcast. Watch a stream. Get your switch out (you do have a square enix-approved, and also Jesus Christ-approved, hybrid handheld/home video game console WorldWide Sinsation nintendo switch, right?). Doodle something. Do all or none these things on voice with friends, preferably while getting hammered. Do any of this and it goes by super fast. Just so you know, "Have you tried just not playing the game if you want to have fun?" is not really a good defense strategy.
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May 18, 2018 23:51
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Mordiceius posted:Why does it matter to you? It would be cool if the final dungeons to the ARR story were fun.
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KoB posted:It would be cool if the final dungeons to the ARR story were fun. They are fun though. Well, Prae is fun. CM sucks, but CM has always sucked.
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I don't run them because they are insanely boring. I'm still holding a grudge for the grinding I did in 2.0. It would be nice if they were made to be not boring. It's cool that you think it's fine to have to voltron 4 different sources of entertainment together to enjoy content. But I do not agree. The content should stand on it's own and be fixed if it can't.
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May 19, 2018 00:01
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Martman posted:Lol at the change to PotD. Now you exchange your aetherpool points in smaller increments!!...long after the weapons you can get from it are basically entirely irrelevant and no one cares anymore. It's just so it has parity with how getting weapons will work with HoH, rather than being two separate systems for no good reason.
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Khizan posted:Just so you know, "Have you tried just not playing the game if you want to have fun?" is not really a good defense strategy. I too need all of my brainpower to run Main Scenario Roulette.
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May 19, 2018 00:15
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KoB posted:It would be cool if the final dungeons to the ARR story were fun. I just did them for the first time, like two days ago, and they were very enjoyable. Also, on the topic of enjoyable, Machinist looked extremely imposing but after taking it into POTD six or seven times it turns out it's considerably less intimidating than it looks.
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May 19, 2018 00:28
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I wish everything around it was at least as good as Ultima Round II, spending ~30+ minutes watching party health bars inch down slower than elemental exp bars go up in Eureka isn't really worth that payoff
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Like you guys realize that if they “fixed” the main scenario dungeons in the way people usually suggest (making them single-player instances with NPC party members), there’d be no need for Main Scenario roulette anymore, right? So if you’re the type of person that has S T R O N G O P I N I O N S on MSR, you can just...pretend they did that, and continue to not run it?
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Making single-player instances with NPC party members is what gives us new occurrences of Raubahn (Savage) every new goddamn wing of Omega. 'Nuff said, I think.
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Cabbit posted:Also, on the topic of enjoyable, Machinist looked extremely imposing but after taking it into POTD six or seven times it turns out it's considerably less intimidating than it looks. Potd is a great way to level, but not super great for actually learning a class. MCH as a class is honestly at its worst in that 50-60 bit after getting gauss barrel but before getting cooldown.
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Brainamp posted:Potd is a great way to level, but not super great for actually learning a class. MCH as a class is honestly at its worst in that 50-60 bit after getting gauss barrel but before getting cooldown. Well, it was good enough that I could get more comfortable with the idea of having to regularly hit ~9-10 different buttons, which was the most intimidating part. I've got some wrist issues and my main in WoW is an arcane mage, a spec notorious for effectively having a three button rotation.
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I just saw the Greed Only for the 24man. Uh... so what is SE's goal in this change again?
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MechaX posted:I just saw the Greed Only for the 24man. The idea is apparently that they've found that people primarily run raids to gear their second/third classes up and by making it greed only they make it viable to do that without having to use that class specifically. So it's supposed to prevent your tank from Needing every piece of Tank gear that shows up and then selling it for guild seals or something. It's not a great change.
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You can get armor for poorly geared jobs without having to play them. I know back in 2.5 I had to tank a ton of WoDs with the bare minimum ilvl to get better gear, and it often got messy.
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They really need to make the Armour of Light craftable because with Greed Only now I am never going to get the whole set without running it a million times. Not that the loving thing ever dropped for me anytime I did run it as a tank except for the head, and that's the one piece I didn't care about. Vadoc fucked around with this message at 02:50 on May 19, 2018 |
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ImpAtom posted:The idea is apparently that they've found that people primarily run raids to gear their second/third classes up and by making it greed only they make it viable to do that without having to use that class specifically. So it's supposed to prevent your tank from Needing every piece of Tank gear that shows up and then selling it for guild seals or something. It's not a great change. Tenik posted:You can get armor for poorly geared jobs without having to play them. I know back in 2.5 I had to tank a ton of WoDs with the bare minimum ilvl to get better gear, and it often got messy. Yeah and the newest raid is still capped to one piece of loot a week, so the competing for loot should be basically the same as before.
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