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ninjewtsu
Oct 9, 2012

JT Jag posted:

Batman has gadgets

i hope that later the league of villians shows up with an anti-aizawa squad that's just armed to the teeth with those bullshit devices the support class makes

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Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

ninjewtsu posted:

i hope that later the league of villians shows up with an anti-aizawa squad that's just armed to the teeth with guns

Why would you make this any more complex than it needs to be?

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
i forget, do the cops in this world pack firearms

because that would automatically make them more powerful than like 75% of the quirk-empowered classes

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


From what I understand Japanese police have guns but don't have the "shoot the gently caress out of anything scary including pet golden retrievers" mentality that USA police do. The criminal justice system in this comic seems WAY more focused on rehabilitation and non-lethal conflict resolution considering it's taking place in a world of super powered crazies. Mustard was powerful with his gun, but it required him to have a quirk which allowed him to obscure sight and also be aware of attackers from all angles. If he was just some dude with a gun you could run up and punch from far away he probably wouldn't have been able to quick draw on the dude with metal skin so easily. That's taking ranged quirks out of the question entirely. Also only professional heroes are allowed to use their quirks to facilitate apprehension of criminals; the police and other civilians aren't allowed to.

Remember that most villains feel fairly oppressed in this society which is party of the VA's beef.

Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 14:09 on May 21, 2018

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
Also remember that we’ve seen that people with creepy powers are treated like potential villains, regardless of their actions.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

Oxxidation posted:

i forget, do the cops in this world pack firearms

because that would automatically make them more powerful than like 75% of the quirk-empowered classes
Cops aren't an active-response anti-crime force in this world, so I imagine (though this is just speculation) they have *access* to guns but they primarily carry high-power tasers, which are probably more successful against a broad swath of low-level assholes with quirks anyway.

Zomborgon
Feb 19, 2014

I don't even want to see what happens if you gain CHIM outside of a pre-coded system.

Gotta also remember this is Shounen World physics, so even your granny could take a few bullets and still be in good enough condition to whollop you pretty good.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Zomborgon posted:

Gotta also remember this is Shounen World physics, so even your granny could take a few bullets and still be in good enough condition to whollop you pretty good.

Yeah Bakugou's quirk has almost nothing to do with being able to take a beating (other than his body being able to deal with his explosions) and he was thrown around by All Might and crushing concrete and such during that test.

Terper
Jun 26, 2012


Shigaraki's quirk is disintegration and he's a loser nerd who plays video games, and he closed the gap between himself and Tsuyu in an instant.

Tweet Me Balls
Apr 14, 2009

I want to see an actually perkless hero that just goes full Rock Lee and perfects their judo skills.

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Terper posted:

Shigaraki's quirk is disintegration and he's a loser nerd who plays video games, and he closed the gap between himself and Tsuyu in an instant.

An emaciated loser nerd, at that.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Tweet Me Balls posted:

I want to see an actually perkless hero that just goes full Rock Lee and perfects their judo skills.

They have something like that in Vigilantes.

I'm honestly kinda curious how Tail guy passed the entry test unless his tail is just THAT strong at smashing robots. That dude is more or less a quirkless martial artist with just an extra limb.

Terper posted:

Shigaraki's quirk is disintegration and he's a loser nerd who plays video games, and he closed the gap between himself and Tsuyu in an instant.

When he made that face was when I turned and started to appreciate him.

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012

Terper posted:

Shigaraki's quirk is disintegration and he's a loser nerd who plays video games, and he closed the gap between himself and Tsuyu in an instant.

I assume All for One makes Shigaraki do some sort of physical training instead of just playing video games all day.

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.

Silver2195 posted:

I assume All for One makes Shigaraki do some sort of physical training instead of just playing video games all day.

Everytime Shigaraki tries to play he just accidentally disintegrates the controller.

This is how people turn evil, take video games away from a nerd.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream

Radish posted:

They have something like that in Vigilantes.

I'm honestly kinda curious how Tail guy passed the entry test unless his tail is just THAT strong at smashing robots. That dude is more or less a quirkless martial artist with just an extra limb.
It's anime physics and I doubt much thought was put into it, but if that tail is solid muscle and the rest of his body has the muscle/bone density to support it the tail would literally weigh like 50 pounds on its own and Ojirou could probably completely demolish an average car with it.

ChaseSP
Mar 25, 2013



Pretty sure we were shown him smashing robots or something at some point.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Shigaraki is actually noted as being surprisingly physically fit and fast if I recall correctly; he held his own with Aizawa for a while, after all, even before he zipped across the field trying to murk Tsuyu. He's a weird manchild but he doesn't actually have the fitness of a shut-in nerd.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Roland Jones posted:

Shigaraki is actually noted as being surprisingly physically fit and fast if I recall correctly; he held his own with Aizawa for a while, after all, even before he zipped across the field trying to murk Tsuyu. He's a weird manchild but he doesn't actually have the fitness of a shut-in nerd.
YLLS success story Shigaraki

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

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A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream


02 does things and has an arc. S'hosed up but sadly true.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
Froppy has an arc when she jumps!

Agronox
Feb 4, 2005

Froppy does things. Frog things. Makes sense!

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Terper posted:

Shigaraki's quirk is disintegration and he's a loser nerd who plays video games, and he closed the gap between himself and Tsuyu in an instant.

shigaraki's physical stats are above that of most of UA's faculty, kid's been grinding like whoa

Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008

Oxxidation posted:

shigaraki's physical stats are above that of most of UA's faculty, kid's been grinding like whoa

Has he gotten one of those stat breakdown things on a manga page that most of heroes have gotten?

LostRook
Jun 7, 2013
He has. From the wiki, so no one risks spoilers and I'll spoiler it in case anyone cares: Power 2/5 Speed 5/5 Technique 5/5 Intelligence 5/5 Cooperativeness 2/5

And for comparison Aizawa's: Power 3/5 Speed 4/5 Technique 6/5 Intelligence 4/5 Cooperativeness 3/5

Zetsubou-san
Jan 28, 2015

Cruel Bifaunidas demanded that you [stand]🧍 I require only that you [kneel]🧎

if it was ichigo instead of zero two then they might be on to something

zero two doesn't even surpass toga :colbert:

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

02 does things and has an arc. S'hosed up but sadly true.

I think I prefer no arc to a lovely romance arc.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Zetsubou-san posted:

if it was ichigo instead of zero two then they might be on to something

zero two doesn't even surpass toga :colbert:

Pssh. How many people has Toga killed? A dozen, tops? She's probably still in the single digits. Zero Two was past a hundred by episode 12. Toga's enthusiastic, but she's an enthusiastic amateur. Zero Two's a pro.

fractalairduct
Sep 26, 2015

I, Giorno Giovanna, have a dream!

I was rewatching the USJ fight and I noticed that Shigechi is actually pretty smart. He's the one who figures out Aizawa's tell for when he activates his quirk, for instance.

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.

fractalairduct posted:

I was rewatching the USJ fight and I noticed that Shigechi is actually pretty smart. He's the one who figures out Aizawa's tell for when he activates his quirk, for instance.

He's also crazy fast in it. I literally just rewatched that arc today. I think this is the first anime where I go back and rewatch specific arcs over again.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS

Radish posted:

From what I understand Japanese police have guns but don't have the "shoot the gently caress out of anything scary including pet golden retrievers" mentality that USA police do. The criminal justice system in this comic seems WAY more focused on rehabilitation and non-lethal conflict resolution considering it's taking place in a world of super powered crazies. Mustard was powerful with his gun, but it required him to have a quirk which allowed him to obscure sight and also be aware of attackers from all angles. If he was just some dude with a gun you could run up and punch from far away he probably wouldn't have been able to quick draw on the dude with metal skin so easily. That's taking ranged quirks out of the question entirely. Also only professional heroes are allowed to use their quirks to facilitate apprehension of criminals; the police and other civilians aren't allowed to.

Remember that most villains feel fairly oppressed in this society which is party of the VA's beef.

Japanese police don't shoot you but they're allowed to hold you for 23 days without charge, interrogations aren't recorded and psychological torture is the name of the game. They pick their targets which is why they have a 99.8% successful prosecution rate. The Japanese jail system has been condemned for humans rights violations because they make American prisons look like a resort. The idea of any villain going to prison and coming out rehabilitated is absolutely one of the biggest suspensions of disbelief you have to have for this series.

Bloody Pom
Jun 5, 2011



Eej posted:

Japanese police don't shoot you but they're allowed to hold you for 23 days without charge, interrogations aren't recorded and psychological torture is the name of the game. They pick their targets which is why they have a 99.8% successful prosecution rate. The Japanese jail system has been condemned for humans rights violations because they make American prisons look like a resort. The idea of any villain going to prison and coming out rehabilitated is absolutely one of the biggest suspensions of disbelief you have to have for this series.

And just like that, Ace Attorney being a constant uphill struggle makes so much more sense.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Eej posted:

Japanese police don't shoot you but they're allowed to hold you for 23 days without charge, interrogations aren't recorded and psychological torture is the name of the game. They pick their targets which is why they have a 99.8% successful prosecution rate. The Japanese jail system has been condemned for humans rights violations because they make American prisons look like a resort. The idea of any villain going to prison and coming out rehabilitated is absolutely one of the biggest suspensions of disbelief you have to have for this series.

Oh yeah I've only heard bad things about it from people I know that have dealt with the Japanese legal system. I was talking this series specifically in terms of criminal rehabilitation and treatment which is definitely a lot more ideal than reality.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream

Bloody Pom posted:

And just like that, Ace Attorney being a constant uphill struggle makes so much more sense.
Ace Attorney was literally a commentary on the Japanese Justice system.

Japan only started allowing jury trials in 2009. What you see in the game is practically what happens in real life but a lot less funny since there's no wacky characters to soften it.

Basically confessions are treated as absolute iron-clad evidence. If you confess to something you legally did it pretty much, so the whole system is designed to extract confessions which are basically a guaranteed conviction and thus the 99%+ conviction rate. The reason Japan doesn't have a massive incarceration problem is that fines and public service and short sentences tend to be the punishments.

Generally though if you try to resist they basically throw you in a lovely jail, barely feed you, then you get roughed up by the police while in custody for weeks until you confess.

Fabricated fucked around with this message at 13:18 on May 22, 2018

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003



You should spoiler tag that since it's stuff that hasn't happened in the anime yet.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream

Radish posted:

You should spoiler tag that since it's stuff that hasn't happened in the anime yet.
I just deleted the offending bit. I messed up trying to phone post.

But yeah if you're wondering how the Kenshin mangaka got off so easily there you have it. I guarantee he just confessed, the police were like "alrighty then", and then they just charged him a fine and chalked up another case solved due to great police work and moved on. I'd bet hard cash he didn't even have to drop a dime on his suppliers.

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer
Suppliers, as in porn hub?

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen

Radish posted:

Oh yeah I've only heard bad things about it from people I know that have dealt with the Japanese legal system. I was talking this series specifically in terms of criminal rehabilitation and treatment which is definitely a lot more ideal than reality.

have we actually seen a reformed criminal in this series yet?

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream

Mordaedil posted:

Suppliers, as in porn hub?
He was busted with hundreds of CDs and DVDs.

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Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

Fabricated posted:

But yeah if you're wondering how the Kenshin mangaka got off so easily

phrasing

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