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avshalemon posted:anyway enough about me/weed/poocastle, this is so much more important Some good news! Good luck to the little quolls
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Sarah Hanson young and David Leyonhjelm: why do politicians like suing for defamation? 'David Leyonhjelm, having spent much of this week in and out of Parliament "slut shaming" Hanson-Young as she has described' hang on mate he actually called her an actual slut in and out of parliament and is steadfastly refusing to admit that perhaps this is a poo poo thing to do or to apologise. Then at the end of the article he just slaps on the 'if politician ever had a just cause for defamation proceedings, then she is top of the list' caveat after spending the rest of the piece talking about how people suing for defamation should think more carefully because they'll 'never get [their] reputation' back. If we're going to talk about pollies firing off frivolous defamation lawsuits, why not Clive Palmer? Or if we're talking about defamation suits making people look like a thin-skinned goose why not Alan Jones? I can understand the sentiment behind the piece but given how public cathat has been with this and how much poo poo SHY already puts up with I think it's a pretty poo poo example. It won't get cathat to shut up, sure, because he is a being of pure contrarian spite and hatred, but it does have the capacity to do something meaningful - bringing attention to the fact that female politicians put up with a lot more personal attacks and respond to them a lot less than male politicians. None of these pundits were out here calling Barnaby Joyce a slut for his actual documented infidelity that he also profited from. Just what is it about SHY, Rebel Wilson and Sophie Mirabella that makes their defamation suits invite increased scrutiny and comments about frivolity 
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Jul 9, 2018 01:25
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Lmao I didn't know there was a female version of that emote
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Ten Becquerels posted:Sarah Hanson young and David Leyonhjelm: why do politicians like suing for defamation? Yeah I took this whole thing as more of a navel gazing exercise on whether the outcomes are worthwhile more than having a crack at anyone or making a statement about women's issues. Using "slut-shaming" just struck me as quoting Hanson-Young directly since that's what she has raised as the overarching issue more than a single specific incident of him using the word slut.
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I'm currently sitting in Sydney Airport because my Adelaide to Canberra work trip has turned into some all day Adl-Mel-Syd-Can ordeal. I don't know how many more in-flight raw gluten free snacks I can take.
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Senor Tron posted:I'm currently sitting in Sydney Airport because my Adelaide to Canberra work trip has turned into some all day Adl-Mel-Syd-Can ordeal. I don't know how many more in-flight raw gluten free snacks I can take. Tiger?
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Jul 9, 2018 02:50
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MiniSune posted:Tiger? Virgin.
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Jul 9, 2018 02:52
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adelaide to canberra 
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MiniSune posted:Tiger? Hadouken
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Jul 9, 2018 03:31
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Senor Tron posted:Virgin. RIP
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Senor Tron posted:Virgin.
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Jul 9, 2018 03:41
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Involuntary Adelaidean.
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Senor Tron posted:Virgin. Eh not totally unsurprising. (Gold ff with virgin)
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volcel airlines will never crash. they are too powerful
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Jul 9, 2018 03:50
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JBP posted:Involuntary Adelaidean. I don't think there are any voluntary Adelaideans. You're either there because you can't leave, or there because nowhere else was viable.
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Jul 9, 2018 03:50
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Stop pretending Adelaide is viable
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Jul 9, 2018 03:56
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When Liberal senator Jane Hume and Liberal Democrat David Leyonhjelm pass each other around Parliament, he tends to greet her with the phrase: "G'day, hot chick." She typically replies: "G'day, handsome." For Hume, a first-term senator from Victoria with a long history of advancing the cause for women in the Liberal Party, this interaction is "totally harmless". Better than that, she says, "it's fun and it makes life colourful".
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Senor Tron posted:Virgin. I prefer "wizard".
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:She typically replies: "G'day, handsome." Is this like when you call your fat mate "slim"?
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:When Liberal senator Jane Hume and Liberal Democrat David Leyonhjelm pass each other around Parliament, he tends to greet her with the phrase: "G'day, hot chick." That's fine if you like it. Good for her I guess?
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Jul 9, 2018 04:23
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Anidav posted:What if you paid teachers more rather than cut thier funding? Having specialist teachers qualified to teach a subject is an important thing. A surprising number of schools have teachers teaching out of subject for very complex subjects and its just terrible. Students either get bored, skip entire sections of the curriculum or get taught the wrong thing entirely. No wonder no one wants to pursue the subjects at a higher level.
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I was under the impression that teacher rates of pay were ok these days, but the terms of employment were dogshit rolling contracts and that was making people toss their hands in the air.
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Jul 9, 2018 04:48
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JBP posted:I was under the impression that teacher rates of pay were ok these days, but the terms of employment were dogshit rolling contracts and that was making people toss their hands in the air. Nah, my understanding is the problem is they start out pretty high, but very quickly plateau compared to other industries. I mean there are other contractual issues as well but just regarding pay levels they're still pretty poo poo.
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Whitlam posted:Nah, my understanding is the problem is they start out pretty high, but very quickly plateau compared to other industries. I mean there are other contractual issues as well but just regarding pay levels they're still pretty poo poo. Ah yes of course, I was only really thinking about the ground floor rates which seem pretty reasonable.
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Whitlam posted:Nah, my understanding is the problem is they start out pretty high, but very quickly plateau compared to other industries. I mean there are other contractual issues as well but just regarding pay levels they're still pretty poo poo. yeah mates teaching in the public system are all at the top of their bracket and there is no where to go. theyr also say that with all the increased workload, reporting, etc some teachers are completely throwing in the towel and going back to being casual relief teachers because the pay is just as good, if not better and zero reporting requirements. they think it's a good trade off for lack of job security.
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Beetphyxious posted:yeah mates teaching in the public system are all at the top of their bracket and there is no where to go. Are they specialist/leading teachers? The rates in Victoria for those jobs are pretty good and attract percentage increases each year that would outweigh CPI. e: the rates for classroom teachers at the top are also good. Like whatever the upper teacher bracket is attracts $80-100k which isn't poo poo by any means. JBP fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Jul 9, 2018 |
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Jul 9, 2018 05:07
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JBP posted:Are they specialist/leading teachers? The rates in Victoria for those jobs are pretty good and attract percentage increases each year that would outweigh CPI. yeah some are now lead teacher, others doing special projects that can attract a 'bonus' payment or something or other. career progression is tough too because they would need to jump around to a few schools before they could go for assistant principal role which could mean losing their lead teacher / coordinator pays depending on the when and where. the general consensus from all the teachers i know though i they're really ratcheting up the work load so that it's not unusual to be working to 11pm-12 each night for most of term 2 & 4. not being a teacher myself i don't know how much is hyperbole, but I've found in adult education that I'm getting a lot more ex-primary school teachers from public and private just walking away from it and coming to teach in this sector.
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So, uh: https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/07/09/12/55/queensland-government-dismisses-ipswich-council?ocid=Social-9NewsB Ipswich City Council being dismissed, replaced by administrators.
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the pay is not lovely, wasn't say it was, but the lack of career progression plus the ever increasing reporting requirements and change in societal attitudes towards teachers is affecting some. and by change in societal attitudes the anecdotes i hear say there's an increasing shift on fault and blame being laid at teachers' feet when a child isn't doing well in the classroom.
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SadisTech posted:So, uh: https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/07/09/12/55/queensland-government-dismisses-ipswich-council?ocid=Social-9NewsB I think the City of Brimbank was at it's peak when it was managed by the administrators. Prior to that it was a cluster gently caress.
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Beetphyxious posted:the pay is not lovely, wasn't say it was, but the lack of career progression plus the ever increasing reporting requirements and change in societal attitudes towards teachers is affecting some. Yeah that poo poo sounds horrible. My good friend teacher is over from WA now and he was saying he hasn't copped it from parents, but knows some teachers that have. Having your vocation in the paper constantly being derided as public bloat or whatever would loving kill your brain eventually.
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Anidav posted:ALL high schools would have to have specialist math and science teachers under a Federal government plan to stop Australian students falling behind nations like Russia and Estonia. Noone wants to be a science teacher because there is no future for science in Australia. Science degrees get you lovely pay or make you leave the country. Science denial gets you on TV. Maybe fix that first.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:When Liberal senator Jane Hume and Liberal Democrat David Leyonhjelm pass each other around Parliament, he tends to greet her with the phrase: "G'day, hot chick." oh nice i hope that random staffers yell at her about how hot she is and how they want to fuckin root her down the corridors to make her life even more fun and colourful. lets get it going aph staffers
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My wife is a teacher and I would 100% forbid any child of mine from pursuing a career as a teacher. I'd sooner let them go build bombs for Lockheed Martin than become a teacher, because it is impossible to have a normal life outside of work as a conscientious teacher.
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The incel Virgin vs. the Chad Qantas
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Kommando posted:Noone wants to be a science teacher because there is no future for science in Australia. I don't think a single one of my science student friends is still here. Most are in California, a couple have gone to the UK. I remember one mate who has gone to the US was doing some interesting thing with plants and biomedicine that sounded extremely galaxy brain, but then he told me they paid him $62,000 a year...
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JBP posted:I don't think a single one of my science student friends is still here. Most are in California, a couple have gone to the UK. I remember one mate who has gone to the US was doing some interesting thing with plants and biomedicine that sounded extremely galaxy brain, but then he told me they paid him $62,000 a year... Yep. my science degree friends from uni have moved internationally or gone on to do something unrelated. Those that are still in science, one is a high school teacher in Townsville, another does QC for oil and lubricants for barely over $50k. Last one went back to uni and has graduated commercial law.
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JBP posted:I don't think a single one of my science student friends is still here. Most are in California, a couple have gone to the UK. I remember one mate who has gone to the US was doing some interesting thing with plants and biomedicine that sounded extremely galaxy brain, but then he told me they paid him $62,000 a year... That's a living wage anywhere other than California/NYC though.
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Can't see any difference between a brief and appreciated compliment and calling someone a massive slut as an insult Totes the same
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iajanus posted:Can't see any difference between a brief and appreciated compliment and calling someone a massive slut as an insult Me saying to a friend "Hi hottie" is indistinguishable to me yelling the same from a car at a passerby. Reactionaries live in a world without context.
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