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Pook Good Mook posted:I won't lie to you, I'm really happy with my job, and for me things worked out. But I didn't NEED a specific job to be "make it work," and I wasn't really giving much up in opportunity cost (aside from the free trips I was taking). But I'm fairly unique among my friends, many of whom are already changing out of law. For the love of God, we aren't being contrarian to be contrarian, we are all smart people who get paid to give advice, don't go to law school. Don't think I'm not seriously taking these warnings under advisement. It's just this school was a long-held dream, and the alternative in my home country is literally the polar opposite opportunity -- though a literal fraction of the cost. I could always test the waters by just going for 1L and if I suck after a couple semesters I'm not out THAT much..
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:I hope it's Iowa tbh Me too. I just don't think we could call our alumni network "extensive." And Iowa Law is no one's "long-held dream." Pook Good Mook fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Jul 19, 2018 |
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Jul 19, 2018 15:28
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Do something else. If you can succeed at law, you can pretty much succeed at anything. Go be an actuary or something.
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CaptainScraps posted:Do something else. If you can succeed at law, you can pretty much succeed at anything. Too much math for my tastes
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GET MONEY posted:Too much math for my tastes Put in the hours. If you can do big law, you can learn math.
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Eminent Domain posted:I appreciate that a new sacrificial 0L appears as the last one finishes bleeding out. It's the circle of life, except Scar is dropping Simba off of Pride Rock into a pit of hyenas.
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GET MONEY posted:Don't think I'm not seriously taking these warnings under advisement. It's just this school was a long-held dream, and the alternative in my home country is literally the polar opposite opportunity -- though a literal fraction of the cost. How useful is an American JD in your home country? Rack up the debt in America, bounce out with your JD
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blarzgh posted:If ya'll are bored, click the "?" for GET MONEY and enjoy. Thanks. I like how I didn't remember him yet posted this months ago me posted:you're an rear end in a top hat who selectively reads things to only see things that already fit his point of view, you'll fit in perfectly. He's a tech guy going through a mid life crisis so who gives a poo poo
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mastershakeman posted:He's a tech guy going through a mid life crisis so who gives a poo poo Why don't people just buy porsches and start sleeping with the marketing interns? That's way more financially responsible than going to law school.
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GET MONEY posted:Of course, but it seems like a floor of A- or ~3.7 for biglaw consideration (with median being ~B+/3.3-3.7) and grading standards have that at ~30% of the class. Do you know how grading curves work?
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This dumbass thinks that law will be "researching archaic statutes" to write "ex parte motions." Think about what a gigantic misunderstanding of law practice he has. And now he doesn't want to learn math, but would rather spend 200k and 3 years to come out of school earning 35k/year as a rural family law attorney. Goddamn think about this. The insanity of a thread of people WHO ARE MOSTLY SUCCESSFUL telling you this isn't what you think it's not with it. Instead you're going to go with some matlock inspired fantasy. YOU WEREN'T GOOD ENOUGH TO GET INTO A WORTHWHILE LAW SCHOOL.ah gently caress it go to law school
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He also can't make a decision over the course of months. Definitely cut out for it
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EwokEntourage posted:How useful is an American JD in your home country? I'd have to do another year of accreditation, but the American school might actually be better reputed than the Canadian school I'm in at. homullus posted:Do you know how grading curves work? Isn't it they have to give a fixed amount of A's/B's/C's? So if I no longer have to be objectively good, just relatively better than my peers (yes I know they are probably extremely good too). Hot Dog Day #91 posted:This dumbass thinks that law will be "researching archaic statutes" to write "ex parte motions." Think about what a gigantic misunderstanding of law practice he has. And now he doesn't want to learn math, but would rather spend 200k and 3 years to come out of school earning 35k/year as a rural family law attorney. Lol, that was facetious. Things like this sound fun to me, but for the alleged stress: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=228583&start=250#p8082724 And you guys fully talked me out of the regional TTT w/ scholly I had before, but now I actually got in extremely late off the waitlist to my dream school so I'm faced with the decision anew. GET MONEY fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Jul 19, 2018 |
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Jul 19, 2018 16:34
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Name the school
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:Name the school Ya seriously, this makes a huge loving difference. Or it would, except for the fact that you've already said that you need biglaw to "make it work." Whatever school you got into, the advice is still: don't go absent a full scholarship. Pook Good Mook fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Jul 19, 2018 |
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Jul 19, 2018 16:36
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I think it's pretty obvious from my post history. Someone guessed it further upthread.
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GET MONEY posted:Of course, but it seems like a floor of A- or ~3.7 for biglaw consideration (with median being ~B+/3.3-3.7) and grading standards have that at ~30% of the class. Yeah go to law school, you'll definitely get into Biglaw and life will be awesome and you'll make partner. Can you please do me one favor though and post periodic updates in this thread? Thanks!
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I am one of the most successful people ITT and I practiced law for 1 year out of law school before loving off to go do something, anything else now I'm about to hire some lawyers to do things and basically pay them to spend time doing things I don't want to do do not go to law school, but if you do, definitely document your life in detail so toona can laugh at it with the rest of us
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This thread should open a law school
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:Name the school He said it's the third best school in its regional market.
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GET MONEY posted:I think it's pretty obvious from my post history. Someone guessed it further upthread. you sound like a joy to work with, employable biglaw guy.
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Adar posted:
This is the best part of the thread. We keep getting fresh meat, despite our best efforts, and then the former fresh meat get to make fun of them to take some of the sting off. I am finishing up my 3rd week of vacation, nothing has gone right (broken bike, food poisoning, hot assaulted, and sick today) and it is still way better than playing at being a lawyer, even a cushy govt one. So go to law school, come to California, get state job, take advantage of like 5-6 weeks of vacation?
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Vox Nihili posted:He said it's the third best school in its regional market. Nah, it's the first best now. nm posted:So go to law school, come to California, get state job, take advantage of like 5-6 weeks of vacation? Is that an option for a foreign invader like myself? GET MONEY fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Jul 19, 2018 |
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GET MONEY posted:Nah, it's the first best now. I think that's just called the best
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I thought law was about precision
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GET MONEY posted:Nah, it's the first best now.
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nm posted:I don't think we require you to be a citizen. what's the visa category though? it's not like H1Bs are even a real thing these days
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Nm you got assaulted? That sucks Maybe this tweet can convince got money to do the right thing https://twitter.com/rajandelman/status/1019772202344906753 In terms of my legal life I A) have been trying to provide advice to a friend who got stiffed out of 200 bucks of security deposit. Everyone I suggest wants 300 dollars up front or more. I don't have the time or money to represent him pro bono. It sucks. B) my father in law is suggesting I go into IT compliance where I'd need to get certifications. I think at this point I either go for a relativity cert or this compliance cert , since the only way out of my doc review pit is to train in something else and this is much more reasonable than going back to school. Worried about the time and energy to do this but after ten years I guess it's time to give upa (something I did too often early and not enough of late) . It's either this or I go back to making mid 50k and driving 4 hours a day to various courthouses to do a bunch of default evictions until I get evicted myself. C) a former coworker of mine at the foreclosure firm ended up on my document review project (her second one ever) and mentioned she'd applied to the same job opening for combined discovery and foreclosure litigation that I'd seen. Took her seven interviews and she finally got it. I never got a response to my application. She came over and high fived me out of the blue when she got it. Thanks.
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evilweasel posted:cognitive immunity to stress works for me
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Phil Moscowitz posted:What's everyone's record on deliberation? 9 hours is my shortest, conviction for conspiracy to import cocaine, three accused. We don't get many jury trials up here and they're all serious.
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Are there any veterans in here that have gone to law school? A handful of the t14 schools offer full rides via the Yellow Ribbon program.
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It's ucla
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:It's ucla If so: From their website: California Resident: $45,660.87 Non-Resident: $52,154.87 Health insurance: $3,901.94* (required unless you can show comparable coverage) Off campus cost of living: $23,214 Total estimated cost of three years, including the mandatory insurance: $237,812.43. Not including moving fees. Assuming you make approx. $50k per year as an IT guy in a corporation (likely an underestimation) - $150k in lost wages, not including any unforeseeable opportunities (promotions, networking getting you a new job). You are going to lose about $400k on a maybe. And that isn't including interest on the loans. And you need to do a fourth year to certify in Canada
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GET MONEY posted:Nah, it's the first best now. Ah, so I'm guessing that 80% scholarship is off the table? Could you negotiate up to a full ride at the "third best" school in light of this development maybe?
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:It's ucla UCLA isn't the third best school in the market because despite the geographical and cultural divide, Stanford and Berkeley exist. And USC has so much alumni pull, it is hard to say, strictly, that getting a job out of UCLA will be easier than USC. Adar posted:what's the visa category though? it's not like H1Bs are even a real thing these days nm fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Jul 19, 2018 |
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GET MONEY posted:I thought law was about precision The practice of law, at least at the biglaw associate level, is 75% trying not to sound like an idiot even when you have no idea what's going on and 25% answering work emails at 1 am.
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nm posted:UCLA isn't the third best school in the market because despite the geographical and cultural divide, Stanford and Berkeley exist. Texas? Definitely best in the market. What the hell was the third best? Houston? Total cost of attendance at Texas for three years at $225k, excluding opportunity costs. Do it. Pook Good Mook fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Jul 19, 2018 |
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nm posted:UCLA isn't the third best school in the market because despite the geographical and cultural divide, Stanford and Berkeley exist. Technically, USC is now better than UCLA for biglaw: https://www.lstreports.com/schools/usc/ https://www.lstreports.com/schools/ucla/ 41.1% + 2.9% clerkships vs 36.9% + 3.6% clerkships.
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