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froody guy
Jun 25, 2013

Guess who's spiking?



Protip: it's not local :jewish:

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Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Dalael posted:

Players like you make me angry about how much of a lazy pos I am. I don't think I broke 100b with all my 3 characters combined in like 9 years of (on and off) play

lol if you think I put forth any effort at all. I have never even undocked my super carrier, I just like to look at it docked in the station and feel tough:




At this rate I make 1.5 billion per tick :v:

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Rutibex posted:

lol if you think I put forth any effort at all. I have never even undocked my super carrier, I just like to look at it docked in the station and feel tough:




At this rate I make 1.5 billion per tick :v:

I can barely put in the effort to log in, to be honest.

Philonius
Jun 12, 2005

froody guy posted:

Guess who's spiking?



Protip: it's not local :jewish:

People thinking the days of plex sales are going to be over ?

madmatt112
Jul 11, 2016

Is that a cat in your pants, or are you just a lonely excuse for an adult?

Dalael posted:

I can barely put in the effort to log in, to be honest.

I never even installed the game :smuggo:

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Philonius posted:

People thinking the days of plex sales are going to be over ?

Maybe people assume PLEX won't be able to be used for Omega time, so they are putting as much time onto their accounts as they can. The new management could just sell ISK directly, that way everyone would have to pay for accounts and they can make more profit!

froody guy
Jun 25, 2013

Philonius posted:

People thinking the days of plex sales are going to be over ?

Uncertainty is every market's most feared enemy, but it's also said that the best time for buying is when blood's running in the streets. In other terms, the mother of all waves of panic is gonna inevitably rise up, and sharks are gonna shark.

madmatt112
Jul 11, 2016

Is that a cat in your pants, or are you just a lonely excuse for an adult?

Right but I'm at work and I wanna know what the poo poo is happening in-game right now. Lots of pings coming through jab. Where can I go on the forums or elsewhere that I can find info? Obvi. without loggin into the game.
Guess I could listen to mumble maybe.

El Marrow
Jan 21, 2009

Everybody here is just as dead as you.

Kimsemus posted:

Also CCP's server infrastructure was built by the Department of Defense and their experts, no one in CCP's house.

That may be, but they have over a decade of experience maintaining it, which is every bit as valuable to a software team.

evilweasel posted:

EVE's code is a dead language that is horribly obsolete, and what is interesting is how far they've pushed it not that it has useful stuff you can export to your other single-threaded python-coded games.

Python is simply the scripting language they use for certain aspects of their networked systems and internal tooling. It's anything but dead and obsolete. It's one of the most in-demand programming languages on the planet. They use it for their API layer, while C++ drives the client as well as the primary game engine code on the server side, which is blazingly fast.

El Marrow fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Sep 6, 2018

ChickenWing
Jul 22, 2010

:v:

El Marrow posted:

That may be, but they have over a decade of experience maintaining it, which is every bit as valuable to a software team.


Python is simply the scripting language they use for certain aspects of their networked systems and internal tooling. It's anything but dead and obsolete. It's one of the most in-demand programming languages on the planet. They use it for their API layer, while C++ drives the client as well as the primary game engine code on the server side, which is blazingly fast.

Hey may be talking about stackless python specifically, upon whose adoption I can't comment, but whose wiki article shows Eve and some mail client as their 'notable adopters' so

El Marrow
Jan 21, 2009

Everybody here is just as dead as you.

ChickenWing posted:

Hey may be talking about stackless python specifically, upon whose adoption I can't comment, but whose wiki article shows Eve and some mail client as their 'notable adopters' so

Well concurrency is possible within stackless, and it's known to be faster than traditional Python. Just because a language is old or obscure, it doesn't make it any less valuable in terms of benchmarks. Just look at Erlang.

FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter
eve was done in stackless python not c++

python is a scripting language that doesn't know its place and nobody wants the icetrolls and their elf dreams for their python knowledge my dude


also a bunch of stuff got ripped out and shunted into c++ before the one dev who was in charge of all that left awhile ago and now and that's where any scaling magic happened


PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

i hope hilmar takes the money and tries to make a new MMO and fails and winds up broke

he has to be one of the stupidest game company CEOs of all time

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




arent they currently developing a mobile game or a moba or did those get canceled too

madmatt112
Jul 11, 2016

Is that a cat in your pants, or are you just a lonely excuse for an adult?

nvm i think this happened: https://br.inyour.space/?s=3678,3676,3677,3679,3681,3680,3682&b=8247840&e=450&t=qrrffe

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

smdftb

ChickenWing
Jul 22, 2010

:v:


its too small for that

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:

i hope hilmar takes the money and tries to make a new MMO and fails and winds up broke

he has to be one of the stupidest game company CEOs of all time

I'll see your dumb rear end in a top hat and raise with Interplay's CEO.

Siets
Sep 19, 2006

by FactsAreUseless

Rutibex posted:

Empyrion: Galactic Survival is pretty neat. It goes from "walking around FPS" scale all the way up to capital ships. Its not a "proper" mmo like EVE, its more like Minecraft with lots of smaller persistent servers. You make the ships out of block parts, which means you can design pretty much anything. You can share blueprints too, so its fairly like EVE you just throw the right minerals into the the blueprint and a ship comes out an hour later. Because people can make whatever they want almost every EVE ship has been modeled, but not just the outside they have mde full interiors for each of the ships too. You can't do drone fighters in Empyrion, but you can dock fighter craft in you capital ships for other players to fly. Its still a bit early in its development but its already a really fun game:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3849704













So I bought Space Engineers back in the day and that game's 6-degrees-of-motion engine utterly wrecks my gut and gives me extreme motion sickness. Is E:GS similar in that regard, or is the control scheme a little more casualized? If goons play I might have to give it a look.

Philonius posted:

There's star trek online, actually :v:

Space combat in that game is more fun by the simple fact that weapons have firing arcs. Fast attack ships like the Defiant have forward-facing cannons that fire in limited arc, so you need to set up strafing attack runs and then come around for another run. Big cruisers on the other hand have a lot of 180 degree phasers spread over the hull, so you want to maneuver to get big broadsides in.

Something as simple as that would be nice.

STO space combat is super fun. I actually really like how that game plays, but I've read horror stories on what the end-game ship collection scheme is like. Apparently it's all ultra-low-chance lootbox bullshit to get special snowflake ship designs and the game even goes the extra gently caress you mile and includes "good luck protection" in its lootbox algorithm? I'd hate to put a bunch of time into that game only to hit that brick wall at the end of it all. :(

Dalael posted:

Any good 4X sci fi you can recommend?


You just reminded me of StarTrek Bridge Commanders. drat I wish they're do another one of those.
Wait, no.. they'd follow the Startrek Discovery timeline. NVM

So I actually really enjoyed Master of Orion: Conquer the Stars which is a remake/reimagining of the original 90's classic. Michael Dorn does a great job as the game's narrator, and there's lots of other famous sci fi voices that the studio likely spent way too much money on (Mark Hamill, Alan Tudyk, John de Lancie (:swoon:) just to name a few.) It's not the deepest 4X game by any stretch in terms of game mechanical depth (which is where the game gets its Steam "Mixed" score from), but for non-hardcore 4X players that still like dabbling in the genre it's the perfect game to get back in the saddle with. The graphical presentation of the alien races and the game world is extremely charming and inspired, the score is fantastic, and the voice acting and alien race personalities feel super memorable like old school 90's 4X games used to feel (Ascendancy, old Master of Orion games, etc.) I've revisited the game a number of times over the past two years. It's a perfect low-energy long-play game for a Saturday~Sunday session while you are multitasking other things around the house. The DLC is also very much worth it. Apparently there's a big 4X games sale on Steam right now and the entire base game + classic Master of Orion titles in the "Collectors Edition" is $12.49 through Sept. 11th. DLC not included in that bundle, but the DLC is only another $9.99 on top. I bought the game at $60 in its late early access days and have been super happy with it the entire time.

If you need a lot more mechanical depth in your 4X experience, Stellaris is the other notable title that has taken off over the past few years and has been well received by many fans in the genre. Stellaris takes the political intrigue AI aspect of these kind of games to a whole 'nother level if that's your jam. The graphical presentation, while serviceable, is nowhere near as inspired and approachable as MoO:CtS is in my opinion though. The game is also apparently 60% off right now through Sept. 10 too.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Stellaris, Endless Space I & II, or if you're really hardcore Distant Worlds: Universe are all good space 4X's

brand engager
Mar 23, 2011

Cool news hopefully the game finally dies off :pray:

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE

brand engager posted:

Cool news hopefully the game finally dies off :pray:

sadly ccp was doing a great job at that, i doubt bdo company could do a better job

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Siets posted:

STO space combat is super fun. I actually really like how that game plays, but I've read horror stories on what the end-game ship collection scheme is like. Apparently it's all ultra-low-chance lootbox bullshit to get special snowflake ship designs and the game even goes the extra gently caress you mile and includes "good luck protection" in its lootbox algorithm? I'd hate to put a bunch of time into that game only to hit that brick wall at the end of it all. :(

If you bought the lifetime subscription back in the day, you get a monthly allowance of freemium money that has always basically amounted to enough to buy whatever the newest thing is every few years when I give the game another look. If you didn't buy the lifetime subscription back in the day, then you do not have the all-important emote and I pity you.

Philonius
Jun 12, 2005

Siets posted:

STO space combat is super fun. I actually really like how that game plays, but I've read horror stories on what the end-game ship collection scheme is like. Apparently it's all ultra-low-chance lootbox bullshit to get special snowflake ship designs and the game even goes the extra gently caress you mile and includes "good luck protection" in its lootbox algorithm? I'd hate to put a bunch of time into that game only to hit that brick wall at the end of it all. :(


I've dabbled a bit, might pick it up again sometime. The special snowflake ship stuff doesn't bother me too much, I don't intend to be competitve in that game, and I mostly just want to play in the iconic ships from the series, and you get those just levleling up.

Landsknecht
Oct 27, 2009
I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb
casinos gonna come back

froody guy
Jun 25, 2013

Crazycryodude posted:

Stellaris, Endless Space I & II, or if you're really hardcore Distant Worlds: Universe are all good space 4X's

Then, all alone at its own level of unfathomable spergitude, in a realm where only the truer nerds dare to venture, there is Aurora. Don't ask me how I know it.

Skull Knight
Aug 2, 2013

Sexy bad choices
Lipstick Apathy

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


froody guy posted:

Then, all alone at its own level of unfathomable spergitude, in a realm where only the truer nerds dare to venture, there is Aurora. Don't ask me how I know it.

Tbh if there's any demographic that wouldn't be driven to madness by (or, really, is already brokebrained enough that there's no noticeable change induced by)The Game That Shall Not Be Named, it's EVE players.

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

i tried to play aurora but it was too spergy for me

though i like reading about it despite the fact that i don't understand anything that's going on

Thunder Moose
Mar 7, 2015

S.J.C.
Good thing I didn't renew my accounts.

:sax: Fare thee well, old spreadsheet.

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Siets posted:

So I bought Space Engineers back in the day and that game's 6-degrees-of-motion engine utterly wrecks my gut and gives me extreme motion sickness. Is E:GS similar in that regard, or is the control scheme a little more casualized? If goons play I might have to give it a look.


STO space combat is super fun. I actually really like how that game plays, but I've read horror stories on what the end-game ship collection scheme is like. Apparently it's all ultra-low-chance lootbox bullshit to get special snowflake ship designs and the game even goes the extra gently caress you mile and includes "good luck protection" in its lootbox algorithm? I'd hate to put a bunch of time into that game only to hit that brick wall at the end of it all. :(


So I actually really enjoyed Master of Orion: Conquer the Stars which is a remake/reimagining of the original 90's classic. Michael Dorn does a great job as the game's narrator, and there's lots of other famous sci fi voices that the studio likely spent way too much money on (Mark Hamill, Alan Tudyk, John de Lancie (:swoon:) just to name a few.) It's not the deepest 4X game by any stretch in terms of game mechanical depth (which is where the game gets its Steam "Mixed" score from), but for non-hardcore 4X players that still like dabbling in the genre it's the perfect game to get back in the saddle with. The graphical presentation of the alien races and the game world is extremely charming and inspired, the score is fantastic, and the voice acting and alien race personalities feel super memorable like old school 90's 4X games used to feel (Ascendancy, old Master of Orion games, etc.) I've revisited the game a number of times over the past two years. It's a perfect low-energy long-play game for a Saturday~Sunday session while you are multitasking other things around the house. The DLC is also very much worth it. Apparently there's a big 4X games sale on Steam right now and the entire base game + classic Master of Orion titles in the "Collectors Edition" is $12.49 through Sept. 11th. DLC not included in that bundle, but the DLC is only another $9.99 on top. I bought the game at $60 in its late early access days and have been super happy with it the entire time.

If you need a lot more mechanical depth in your 4X experience, Stellaris is the other notable title that has taken off over the past few years and has been well received by many fans in the genre. Stellaris takes the political intrigue AI aspect of these kind of games to a whole 'nother level if that's your jam. The graphical presentation, while serviceable, is nowhere near as inspired and approachable as MoO:CtS is in my opinion though. The game is also apparently 60% off right now through Sept. 10 too.

I'll look for the bundle. I remember playing the first 2 Master of Orion and that's about it. I vaguely recall an unpopular 3rd entry in the serie in early 2000s.

As for Stellaris, i think i own it, but full disclosure, i never tried it. Guess it's a good time to give it a go.

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

ChickenWing posted:

its too small for that

extend your dsls

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

Thunder Moose posted:

Good thing I didn't renew my accounts.

:sax: Fare thee well, old spreadsheet.

nmfree
Aug 15, 2001

The Greater Goon: Breaking Hearts and Chains since 2006

evilweasel posted:

EVE's code is a dead language that is horribly obsolete
I didn't know EVE Online was written in French.

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

nmfree posted:

I didn't know EVE Online was written in French.

Hey! French is not dead. Its horrible and obsolete, but still very much alive.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Dalael posted:

Hey! French is not dead. Its horrible and obsolete, but still very much alive.

MON DIEU!

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE

Dalael posted:

Hey! French is not dead. Its horrible and obsolete, but still very much alive.

not surprised you're a frenchie

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?

1001 Arabian dicks posted:

not surprised you're a frenchie

He's only half. He's Canadian.

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008

Ynglaur posted:

He's only half. He's Canadian.

the worst kind of frenchie.

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They're going to let people buy titans for real money. Retards will buy them and lose them in droves and the game will be the most profitable it's ever been.

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