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Trabisnikof posted:Don’t worry they disciplined some workers! Pelosi's nephew was also an executive in property acquisition at Lennar Urban.
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What's the likelihood anything comes of this? I know the US has done far worse but won't these be expensive developments aimed at well-to-do white people? Hasn't that been a historical line rarely crossed and when it has happened, ala Enron/theranos/etc there has been consequences, eventually. Any chance of this tarnishing Harris' rising star?
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Trabisnikof posted:Don’t worry they disciplined some workers! This article just keeps getting worse this loving article posted:Tetra Tech is also a subcontractor on a $1.4 billion work arrangement with the Department of Energy to clean up pollution at Los Alamos in New Mexico—the historic home of the Manhattan Project that developed the atomic bomb (which was shipped in secret to Hunters Point, where it was loaded onto a ship for delivery to the Pacific). Critiques of that arrangement have fallen on deaf ears at the Department of Energy, which stated that Tetra Tech would remain involved. It really is a new gilded age.
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Sep 14, 2018 16:48
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Tetra Tech Wins $60M Deal From the County of Los Angeles This was two days ago.
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Sep 14, 2018 17:46
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Cup Runneth Over posted:
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This seems like some Latin American tier grift going on. Which I suppose shouldn't surprise me given all the political dynasties in California.
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What's funny is that the city specifically engineered this latest test so that it could be passed and building could continue. They're not testing for alpha radiation, which is the most likely kind of radioactive material they'd find given what we know about the site, and they're specifically doing a shallow surface test far from people's homes because they don't want to deal with what is likely buried deeper underneath them. They're also not testing for other contaminants, even though you'd expect a site that was an active shipyard for nearly 80 years to have all kinds of poo poo in the ground and there's no reason to trust that Tetra Tech did that remediation either. And even with all that STILL they're finding chunks of radium just chilling on the ground there. I expect heads are going to roll eventually, but it's going to take a fight to get us there because the entire city government and some of the biggest names in the Democratic Party are completely complicit in this. All the powers that be want it to just quietly go away.
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Sep 14, 2018 19:07
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Unfortunately for them, you can't just wish away loving radioactive debris. Unless you live in a Republican state.
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poopinmymouth posted:
Hard to see how Harris has much to do with this unless you are going to claim that every SF pol is automatically affected. She never voted on any of this, has no financial involvement, etc.
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Sep 14, 2018 20:24
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predicto posted:Hard to see how Harris has much to do with this unless you are going to claim that every SF pol is automatically affected. She never voted on any of this, has no financial involvement, etc. Would she have been in a position to prosecute Tetra Tech?
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Skyscraper posted:Would she have been in a position to prosecute Tetra Tech?
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Sep 14, 2018 20:32
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Harris is far less implicated than most SF politicians. None of the really criminal poo poo was discovered while she was DA, and she was nearing the end of her term as Attorney General when the first inklings that the soil samples had been faked started to leak. The real definitive statement that 98 percent of the soil samples happened after she was already in the Senate. Arguably she has less to lose and she's trying to burnish her progressive bonafides at the moment so she would probably be a much better target for a pressure campaign than Feinstein, even if she is a product of the same machine.
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Sep 14, 2018 20:47
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Skyscraper posted:Would she have been in a position to prosecute Tetra Tech? Hard to say. The information that came out in 2014 was long after she was no longer SF Attorney General. The Feds are mostly responsible for the prosecution of contractors that lie to the navy. The feds put a couple of Tetra Tech people in prison for the coverup back in May, but she's a senator now, not a prosecutor. I mean, I guess the State Attorney General could have gotten more involved in that window between 2014 and 2016, but usually the state will back off when the feds are taking the leading prosecutorial role.
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predicto posted:I mean, I guess the State Attorney General could have gotten more involved in that window between 2014 and 2016, but usually the state will back off when the feds are taking the leading prosecutorial role. For a billion dollars, it seems like she should've been more involved, as state AG.
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In this week's episode of "eat poo poo feinstein": https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2018/9/14/17861350/dianne-feinstein-supreme-court-brett-kavanaugh-letter-sexual-assault-high-school She cannot die soon enough.
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GrandpaPants posted:In this week's episode of "eat poo poo feinstein": feinstein you worthless loving enabler retire and withdraw
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Telsa Cola posted:Alright so the paper I was referring to was a analysis put out by the Pacific Institute called California's Next Million Acre Feet. In which they argue that for substantially less than a new desalination plant or several new reservoirs California could implement statewide infrastructure,housing and agriucultural equipment changes that would save a metric fuckton of water. I read through the report and there is a lot I agree with, particularly their introductory statement that water management is a complex problem that requires multiple strategies. Here is my critique- Regarding urban conservation: Their focus is on indoor urban water use rather than outdoor urban water which I don't like. Indoor water is not necessarily conserved at a 1:1 ratio. Low flow toilets and washers send concentrated poo and detergent solution to wastewater treatment plants, increasing treatment costs and carbon footprint per unit volume treated water produced. In areas like Sacramento where the treated wastewater is returned and used downstream, it is less important to conserve than coastal areas where the treated water is irretrievable. Landscape replacement is a much more direct if initially pricey water saver. It is also a lot more visible and therefore culturally influential. That's my 2 cents and would have liked them to run some numbers on that instead. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0043135417306425?via%3Dihub Metering water use is of course extremely important and I agree with aggressive block pricing especially during scarcity. Regarding ag conservation: quote:For this analysis, we chose among the simplest, proven agricultural water-use efficiency measures available, which include: (1) weather-based irrigation scheduling, (2) regulated deficit irrigation, and (3) efficient irrigation technologies, e.g., drip and sprinkler systems. The first two ideas are great but there are some natural and behavioral consequences for subsidizing irrigation efficiency. For example when compensated for installing drip irrigation systems, farmers often use as much or more water to get better crop yields, increase their planting acreage, or plant more water intensive crops, rather than using less water. For this reason, additional measures including mandatory metering of well extractions and riparian water are needed, and should have been included in the analysis. They proposed metering residences, why not ag? From last month: The paradox of irrigation efficiency http://science.sciencemag.org/content/361/6404/748/tab-pdf And depending on the site hydrogeology and the water source, inefficient irrigation can help refill aquifers with water that might otherwise be evaporating in a reservoir. As a matter of fact the new hotness right now is getting farmers to flood their land during peak river flows to provide flood attenuation and groundwater recharge. https://water.ca.gov/Programs/All-Programs/Flood-MAR predicto posted:No. TBH, almonds and other nut trees are not a bad use of water, if you have it. The crop is valuable. The problem with nut trees is twofold. One which has been addressed is they require a lot of water per nut. The other is, you need can't fallow the fields during droughts. Something like tomatoes you can just replant during good years and subsidize the farmer during scarcity (although this is subject to a lot of abuse). Basically once you plant a crop like almonds it gives you a foot in the door to complain about "MY INVESTMENT"
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I apologize for any previous posts that gave Feinstein the benefit of the doubt re: holding the Kavanaugh Assault poo poo back for the benefit of the victim. God, loving die already Dianne.
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FilthyImp posted:I apologize for any previous posts that gave Feinstein the benefit of the doubt re: holding the Kavanaugh Assault poo poo back for the benefit of the victim. Why? The victim’s statement I saw seemed to say that she had reported it confidentially and expected Feinstein to keep it confidential. It sounded like she only brought it public once it leaked. Am I missing something?
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I'm no Feinstein fan, but this is some dishonest bullshit right here. This happened in 1964, not 1984. John Shelly was the mayor, and Feinstein wasn't even on the board of supervisors yet. https://www.sfchronicle.com/oursf/article/When-a-Confederate-battle-flag-flew-in-front-of-11956809.php#photo-13892623 edit - looks like I was wrong. My bad. predicto fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Sep 16, 2018 |
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predicto posted:I'm no Feinstein fan, but this is some dishonest bullshit right here. This happened in 1964, not 1984. John Shelly was the mayor, and Feinstein wasn't even on the board of supervisors yet. Really? Idk this was all well before my time. I got that tweet from this article, which seemed well-sourced enough. https://splinternews.com/dianne-feinstein-has-always-been-bad-1821399794
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predicto posted:I'm no Feinstein fan, but this is some dishonest bullshit right here. This happened in 1964, not 1984. John Shelly was the mayor, and Feinstein wasn't even on the board of supervisors yet. No, that was a different time. This picture is Richard Bradley taking down the flag on April 15, 1984.
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fermun posted:No, that was a different time. This picture is Richard Bradley taking down the flag on April 15, 1984. Are you sure? The story says the confederate flag was cut down in 1964. Was it cut down twice? edit - I followed the links and now I get it So it happened again in 1984, then that means the collection of flags was up for 20 years (some of it is still there btw, including the Lone Star Texas Flag and the Don't Tread on Me Flag). And at that time the Dukes of Hazzard was the top rated show on TV despite the same lovely flag on top of the car. In 1984 consciousness about that flag was not very developed, and the Spartacus League Trotskyites were right about the flag but it's not surprising that they got some pushback when they unilaterally tore it down from what was supposedly a historical display of a couple dozen flags. I guess what I'm saying is that people have enough reasons to hate DiFi without pretending that she's a racist who loves the Confederate Flag. But it's not a hill I'm willing to die on, so carry on.
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predicto posted:Are you sure? The story says the confederate flag was cut down in 1964. Was it cut down twice? she kept putting it up to win over dixiecrats
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predicto posted:I guess what I'm saying is I was wrong. there finished it for you. np.
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FilthyImp posted:Sen. Dianne Feinstein didn’t tell fellow Democrats on the Judiciary Committee that she’d received a letter accusing Brett Kavanaugh of attempting to force himself on a woman while both were in high school because, as the New Yorkerreports, she didn’t want his confirmation hearings to be about his private life. So I read that article from two days ago and was upset as well. But the WaPo article from today interviewing the woman who accused Kavanaugh seems to make it pretty clear that the person who wrote the letter expected it to be kept confidential: https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...m=.e0e697a6da9b Relevant quote: quote:By late August, Ford had decided not to come forward, calculating that doing so would upend her life and probably would not affect Kavanaugh’s confirmation. “Why suffer through the annihilation if it’s not going to matter?” she said. This makes it sound like Feinstein was respecting the woman’s decision. Maybe I’m missing smth still.
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It sounds like she took the worst possible course of action for what she wanted to happen. She should have gone to the police or the FBI with it if she wanted him to be quietly prosecuted, not send it to her federal representatives. It also sounds like Feinstein isn't at fault here. She respected the victim's wishes at the time. Now the victim feels it's her duty to come forward now that the cat is out of the bag. Cup Runneth Over fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Sep 17, 2018 |
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predicto posted:Are you sure? The story says the confederate flag was cut down in 1964. Was it cut down twice? Best I can figure out the timeline from those articles, after it had been cut down in 1964 a new Confederate flag was put up and was there for 20 years. That was replaced with a new one that was donated and put up to mark the 119th anniversary of the surrender of the Confederacy, the 119th anniversary was April 9th, 1984. Richard Bradley tore it down on April 15, 1984 and it was burned. A new Confederate flag was put up on April 18, 1984 (this date is based off of it saying it was put back up the day after the acquittal for the KKK 1979 Greensboro massacre trial, the acquittal happened April 17, 1984). Richard Bradley tore it down again on April 18, 1984 about 4 hours after it was put up. The flagpole remained empty until June, a new Confederate flag was put back up around June 25, 1984 then the longshoreman's union cut down the flagpole with an acetylene torch on June 29, 1984. After the flag pole was cut down, a Confederate flag was never put up again.
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fermun posted:then the longshoreman's union cut down the flagpole with an acetylene torch on June 29, 1984
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fermun posted:The flagpole remained empty until June, a new Confederate flag was put back up around June 25, 1984 then the longshoreman's union cut down the flagpole with an acetylene torch on June 29, 1984. After the flag pole was cut down, a Confederate flag was never put up again. Direct action.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:It sounds like she took the worst possible course of action for what she wanted to happen. She should have gone to the police or the FBI with it if she wanted him to be quietly prosecuted, not send it to her federal representatives. I dunno about worst possible way. It does sound like if the leak hadn't occurred Eshoo and Feinstein were actually doing a good job not folding to pressure to release it, and just using clout as a Senator to get the FBI to investigate. Granted, the "if the leak hadn't occurred" part is a realllllly big if, but I can see how going to the FBI directly would seem intimidating. e: Also why was the confederate flag up in the first place? Seems super odd.
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fermun posted:The flagpole remained empty until June, a new Confederate flag was put back up around June 25, 1984 then the longshoreman's union cut down the flagpole with an acetylene torch on June 29, 1984. After the flag pole was cut down, a Confederate flag was never put up again. gently caress, I can only hope to be this cool and good one day.
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If anyone wants more detail, a friend linked me this podcast: https://soundcloud.com/the-dollop/330-feinstein-and-the-flag Actual discussion starts around ~15 - 20 minutes and goes into good detail about how terrible Feinstein has been/is/continues to be.
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Fienstein wanted to look good to Dixiecrats which would make her look good to Mondale which would increase the odds of her getting the VP nomination.
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RandomPauI posted:Fienstein wanted to look good to Dixiecrats which would make her look good to Mondale which would increase the odds of her getting the VP nomination. That's some stable genius thinking on her part right there.
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