Andoird: green bubble stigma

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anthonypants: May 6, 2007; by Nyc_Tattoo; Dinosaur Gum

Endless Mike posted:

imagine buying this instead of an ipad
LastInLine posted:
Figured I'd give an update since I just got this in the beta channel on Tab 10 and this will be the launch software for the Pixelbook tablet when it comes out.

It does make some some substantial changes to the tablet UI. An autohiding shelf is now the default, the app close UI is different in that you can't pull down from the top to get close/minimize buttons (it instead triggers the app switcher), and the app drawer is now pretty much an iPad interface.

The problems though with ChromeOS as a tablet only OS remain. The stylus still can't do text selection. It still routinely loses both your rotation lock and brightness selectons (the Tab 10 can't do autobrightness which is really annoying).

But the worst thing, far and away, is the the virtual keyboard just doesn't work. The Android subsystem, at least in beta 70, is still 7.1.1 so you can't load gBoard (or any other keyboard). The only keyboard you do have is difficult to imagine if you've never used it. It won't capitalize the first word of any sentence or the letter "i". It inserts random spaces if you ever move the cursor (but doesn't unless you do this) so sometimes you'll get two spaces between words or spaces within words. Autocorrection is spotty at best and sometimes just absent. It also won't let you select a past word and get suggestions to change it so you have to manually backspace out a missed word and retype it. I tried typing this post on that keyboard but only got two sentences in before I had to give up and use a different device, it simply doesn't work at all.

Oh yeah, depending on the app the keyboard might just cover the text area you're entering into. Some apps, like the ChromeOS Hangouts app, will move entire window up so that half of it is out of frame to make room for the keyboard but it means the bottom is visible to see what you're entering. Some, like the Chrome Hangouts extension, won't move at all and keyboard will cover the bottom half of the app making text entry a blind process. Android apps behave like you'd expect where when the keyboard is invoked the app shrinks by half to accommodate it leaving both the top bar and bottom text entry field visible but the text size is scaled for a phone so everything is teeny-tiny. As with everything on ChromeOS as a tablet, everything is a compromise; nothing will ever "just work".

Lastly I should mention that ChromeOS 70 beta on my Tab 10 has been extremely unstable. It's crashed the whole OS twice in ten minutes doing nothing special. It has just gone blank and rebooted. That could just be the Tab 10 though.

All in all if this is the tablet experience you get with a ChromeOS tablet it's really hard to recommend anyone spend earth dollars for one. They're definitely working on it, changes have been coming often as new versions roll out, but there's so much lacking polish and experience breaking bugs that there's just no good reason to buy one unless you just want to torture yourself.

they're talking about a chromebook, but your point stands

LastInLine posted:

butt dickus posted:
either suck it up and buy an iPad or spend even more on a chromeos device.
Thread title, right here.

For what it's worth, I might poo poo on MS products because they're garbo but let me assure you that my Chomebook Tab 10 is also trash. The difference, I think, is that I knew that going in and I'd never recommend it unless I was sure the person asking was well aware of everything bad about it. It fulfills my expectations but that's not equivalent to being acceptable.

I don't doubt that people love their Surfaces, but let's be real, we're all Android people and we know Stockholm Syndrome well. We put up with a shitload of half-assed design and execution and it necessarily creeps into our view of how well technology is supposed to work. The kinds of compromises one must make in order to use these devices should not be taken lightly or as "just part of the game" because, in the tablet space especially, there is a good option, you just have to be willing to set aside anti-Apple bias to use it.

I'm just saying we shouldn't be complacent about the incredibly poor state of affairs in the Android tablet space simply because it's the way it is. It's bad and we should acknowledge that keeping in mind the knowledge that even if that's the case that some people just want to remain in this ecosystem and for them we should present the options warts and all.

anthonypants fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Sep 21, 2018

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# ? May 11, 2024 18:36

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

https://www.aboutchromebooks.com/news/first-look-chrome-os-pixelbook-tablet-nocturne-madebygoogle/

they're making another hybrid one, because coherent brand strategy is for loving chumps

# ? Sep 21, 2018 04:48

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

infernal machines posted:

https://www.aboutchromebooks.com/news/first-look-chrome-os-pixelbook-tablet-nocturne-madebygoogle/

they're making another hybrid one, because coherent brand strategy is for loving chumps

thats because its a coherent promotion strategy

# ? Sep 21, 2018 05:08

The Management: Jan 2, 2010; sup, bitch?

google doesn�t have a strategy because it�s a bunch of random groups loving around, making products with no coordination, no oversight, and no direction. exactly the same as their software �strategy�, their hardware one is to haphazardly poo poo out a bunch of random products and then quickly abandon them.

# ? Sep 21, 2018 06:05

sleepwalkers: Dec 7, 2008

anthonypants posted:

they're talking about a chromebook, but your point stands

they're talking about the acer tab 10, a chromeos tablet. it costs roughly the same as the latest base ipad.

# ? Sep 21, 2018 15:05

Bulgakov: Mar 8, 2009; рукописи не горят

Endless Mike posted:

imagine buying this instead of an ipad

nah

# ? Sep 21, 2018 15:06

jesus WEP: Oct 17, 2004

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# ? Sep 21, 2018 15:12

President Beep: Apr 30, 2009; i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

jesus WEP posted:

lite rally can�t typ eon it b ut otherwise than ��that suitsm yneeds 4/%

sMae 0p

# ? Sep 21, 2018 15:14

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Endless Mike posted:

imagine buying this instead of an ipad

q4 2018: waiting for godot

# ? Sep 21, 2018 15:16

Pinterest Mom: Jun 9, 2009

I met a guy in his mid 20s this summer who was *dual wielding* blackberries

he had a blackberry passport, and a blackberry key 2

his job is "graduate student"

# ? Sep 21, 2018 15:17

graph: Nov 22, 2006; aaag peanuts

Pinterest Mom posted:

I met a guy in his mid 20s this summer who was *dual wielding* blackberries

he had a blackberry passport, and a blackberry key 2

thats fine

Pinterest Mom posted:

his job is "graduate student"

deadly combination, avoid this person at all costs

# ? Sep 21, 2018 15:19

Schadenboner: Aug 15, 2011; by Shine

Pinterest Mom posted:

I met a guy in his mid 20s this summer who was *dual wielding* blackberries

he had a blackberry passport, and a blackberry key 2

his job is "graduate student"

More like Pissport, ammirite?

# ? Sep 21, 2018 15:22

FMguru: Sep 10, 2003; peed on;
sexually

Pinterest Mom posted:

his job is "graduate student"

i.e. "unemployed", working on unlocking "unemployable"

# ? Sep 21, 2018 16:24

graph: Nov 22, 2006; aaag peanuts

FMguru posted:

i.e. "unemployed", working on unlocking "unemployable"

doesn't matter, dad's rich as gently caress and they can cruise being a shitlord forever

# ? Sep 21, 2018 17:07

Jenny Agutter: Mar 18, 2009

The Management posted:

google doesn�t have a strategy because it�s a bunch of random groups loving around, making products with no coordination, no oversight, and no direction. exactly the same as their software �strategy�, their hardware one is to haphazardly poo poo out a bunch of random products and then quickly abandon them.

it would be better if they abandoned stuff instead of actively making it worse

# ? Sep 21, 2018 17:43

Cybernetic Vermin: Apr 18, 2005

google abandon good stuff all the time, and i need you to not give them any further ideas lest they kill off scholar next

# ? Sep 21, 2018 18:35

The Management: Jan 2, 2010; sup, bitch?

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

google abandon good stuff all the time, and i need you to not give them any further ideas lest they kill off scholar next

if your google product has less than one hundred million users you can already consider it dead.

# ? Sep 21, 2018 19:00

graph: Nov 22, 2006; aaag peanuts

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

lest they kill off scholar next

several groups of people at my place of employment spent months trying to get in contact with a single live person that works on scholar

# ? Sep 21, 2018 19:16

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

The Management posted:

if your google product has less than one hundred million users you can already consider it dead.

even then don't be so sure, more than 100 million people use toothbrushes every day

# ? Sep 21, 2018 19:17

graph: Nov 22, 2006; aaag peanuts

fun fact: scholar doesn't allow any aws ips to use its service

# ? Sep 21, 2018 19:18

Dielectric: May 3, 2010

The Management posted:

google ... it�s a bunch of random groups loving around, making products with no coordination, no oversight, and no direction.

100% true. Doubly so for hardware.

# ? Sep 21, 2018 19:40

graph: Nov 22, 2006; aaag peanuts

Dielectric posted:

Doubly so for hardware.

google doesnt make hardware

# ? Sep 21, 2018 19:40

Dielectric: May 3, 2010

anthonypants posted:

wow, they built a temperature sensor right into the back

I could certainly use a rectal thermometer in my EDC kit, why not dual purpose that with my phone?

# ? Sep 21, 2018 19:44

heated game moment: Oct 30, 2003; Lipstick Apathy

the iphone XIS should have an RGB apple logo on the back that does rainbow colors

# ? Sep 21, 2018 21:27

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

it should come with an attachment that sucks your dick

# ? Sep 21, 2018 21:31

heated game moment: Oct 30, 2003; Lipstick Apathy

indigi posted:

it should come with an attachment that sucks your dick

seems impractical as the box would have to be as big as a refrigerator to fit your mom inside

# ? Sep 21, 2018 23:49

Lutha Mahtin: Oct 10, 2010; Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

graph posted:

several groups of people at my place of employment spent months trying to get in contact with a single live person that works on scholar

i don't know the exact number of times I've reported bugs in Google products, but it's gotta be several dozen. the only time i ever got back anything typed by a human was when there was a bug in google maps, where any request for transit directions from my then-address would only return the last train or bus of the night, so like 2 or 3 am. this bug lasted for months and the unsigned reply just explained that they were working on the bug

meanwhile the route finder at the actual transit authority website (built with probably 0.001% of google maps's funding) worked fine

# ? Sep 22, 2018 00:17

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

incels interlinked posted:

seems impractical as the box would have to be as big as a refrigerator to fit your mom inside

my mother is a saint and has never hosed

# ? Sep 22, 2018 00:18

Lutha Mahtin: Oct 10, 2010; Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

that isn't a requirement. many saints had sex during their earthly lives

# ? Sep 22, 2018 00:19

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

the vast majority of girl ones were, though

# ? Sep 22, 2018 00:22

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

indigi posted:

my mother is a saint and has never hosed

Jesus?

# ? Sep 22, 2018 00:24

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

hobbesmaster posted:

Jesus?

Mary hosed just not til later

# ? Sep 22, 2018 00:27

Lutha Mahtin: Oct 10, 2010; Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

i believe it is the same for men. this isn't the point though, i said it's not a requirement. also we have now destroyed what tiny opening for humor there was based on my mediocre post :effort:

# ? Sep 22, 2018 00:27

graph: Nov 22, 2006; aaag peanuts

graph posted:

fun fact: scholar doesn't allow any aws ips to use its service

after 5 months of trying to get in touch with anyone their answer was 'we dont care'

hey pal you realize like all of academia is moving to vdi on aws

# ? Sep 22, 2018 01:34

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

graph posted:

hey pal you realize like all of academia is moving to vdi on aws

graph posted:

'we dont care'

# ? Sep 22, 2018 01:56

The Management: Jan 2, 2010; sup, bitch?

graph posted:

after 5 months of trying to get in touch with anyone their answer was 'we dont care'

hey pal you realize like all of academia is moving to vdi on aws

move to google clown problem solved

# ? Sep 22, 2018 02:16

The Management: Jan 2, 2010; sup, bitch?

indigi posted:

my mother is a saint and has never hosed

a Saint Bernard

# ? Sep 22, 2018 02:16

President Beep: Apr 30, 2009; i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)