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blarzgh posted:"Sales" is a predatory, burden-shifting industry that pretends to be a meritocracy. Hey, this product has literally zero demand. We could advertise? No, that would cost too much money, lets have a bunch of shysters and hucksters convince a bunch of morons to advertise it for us but they'll only get paid if their advertising works, and if it works well enough then the morons can get promoted to huckster, with the promise of making Regional Vice Shyster one day, and they can go recruit other morons! I have to spend about an hour a day listening to wholesalers and service vendors, it doesn't take long to parse out that all of this talk about "solutions" is bullshit 99.99% of the time like, even if you're actually selling something that solves a problem (most aren't) and it's a problem we actually have (most aren't), there are 20 other guys pitching equivalent solutions. So even in the best case scenario where they all have the right answer there's still this tremendous wasted effort trying to fight over who gets our money. Pick posted:An engineer only succeeds if their product "works", a salesperson can make a product succeed whether or not it's good. They're the ones who actually make the difference. "Sales is all about helping people and solving problems" "A good salesperson can sell stuff even if it doesn't actually do anything useful" I can see why you like sales the holy poopacy fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Sep 28, 2018 |
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When I think of places with people that have the most selfless benefit to society, it's a close race between children's hospitals, soup kitchens, and the local Best Buy. Lent money to a heroin addict friend, he wants my bank details to pay back[new] An old friend [M32] who I'm [30M] in touch with but don't see is a heroin addict and asked me to lend him£20 to pay his mum back so she didn't get bank charges. He says he'll pay it back but wants to do a bank transfer. Is it safe to give my account details to someone I don't trust as much as I used to? It's not that I don't trust him, it's more I don't trust his desperation and involvement with dealers. I'm not bothered about the money tbh so thought about just saying don't worry about it, but I don't want him to ask me again incase I'm funding his habit, and also interested too see if he's true to his word. Could anything bad happen if I hand over my bank details? He doesn't know my address exactly but I think he could find out pretty easily. Thanks Tl;Dr: lent some money to Friend who's a heroin addict, worried about giving him my bank details.
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MightyJoe36 posted:Sounds more like you are describing a MLM scam than straight up sales. Its all the same. Pharmaceutical sales, car sales, home security system sales, construction sales, manufactured products sales, multi-level marketing sales, fashion 'buyers' - you pick the product/industry and the fundamental parts are always the same: the supplier has a product that doesn't sell itself, so they 'hire' someone to invert the demand curve for them by a) convincing people who don't need it to want it, b) convincing people who can't afford it to finance it, or c) by bribing the people who will sell it to someone else to buy it from you and proceed back to a) or b).
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Straight White Shark posted:I have to spend about an hour a day listening to wholesalers and service vendors, it doesn't take long to parse out that all of this talk about "solutions" is bullshit 99.99% of the time This dude gets it. In commercial industries, the vendor who gets the contract is going to be the one who took the distributor rep to the nicest strip club.
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The only job more wonderful and beneficial than salesman is alcoholic comedy writer. Sure it's my job, but I'm not biased: Like a salesperson liasons people with exactly the perfect product to suit their needs in a way that can't be repeated unless we invent some magic machine where people can type in what they want and it looks at data from all over the world, I liason people between thinking things and hearing them said. The past week my boyfriend of 2 years [35M] has been binge drinking heavily. He has stopped doing chores and our place is now a garbage dump. I [24F] am very worried by this sudden change.[new] Yesterday he confessed that his small business startup was struggling and he’s going through a rough time. This weekend, he’s drunk a case of strong IPAs and a fifth of vodka. That’s not including drinks at the bar every night. I am trying to be understanding of his internal struggle but I am honestly livid at what’s become of our lives. A week ago, I told his that I’m not cleaning everything up this time. He promised to clean. But he only cleans a tiny bit every day. Not enough to overcome the ever increasing mess. I feel like I’ve lost my home. When I come home after a long stressful day, I cannot rest on my own couch because his laundry is piled all over, for like 2 weeks now. There are bottles and dishes everywhere. I found a cockroach! Last night we had a serious talk and I think he heard the pain in my voice because he swore to quit drinking for a month (like he does for dry January). He gave me $100 and told me not to give it back unless the bedroom was spotless when I came home. Well you guessed it. I come home today and nothing has changed. Not one bottle budged! I call him and he says he had to pick up our stranded friends from camping. And then they started drinking so he won’t be home for like 10 hours. Then he hands me over to our friends who explain the situation and try to make me feel better for taking his away and making him drink. It’s not their fault at all. He could have cleaned up before he left. He could have turned down drinking. I have never been more upset with him. This is so unlike him to be untrustworthy. If I stayed up till 2AM cleaning like I have for the past month, he wouldn’t learn, right? Should I get a hotel room so I’m not afraid of cockroaches crawling over me? We have our first counseling appointment coming up but I’m at my wits end right now. TL;DR Boyfriends work woes have made him a drunk who doesn’t clean.
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Sep 28, 2018 19:17
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If you get outfoxed by a heroin addict into giving him your bank info I think the UK government sends you to a fate worse than Australia.
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Barudak posted:If you get outfoxed by a heroin addict into giving him your bank info I think the UK government sends you to a fate worse than Australia. I liked this part "it's not that I don't trust him, it's more I don't trust his desperation and involvement with dealers," It's not that I don't find her attractive, I just don't find her body or face or personality attractive.
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Sep 28, 2018 19:23
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Drunk Nerds posted:Lent money to a heroin addict friend, he wants my bank details to pay back[new] If you’re that dumb that you have to ask Reddit about this one, yes give him your bank details.
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Sep 28, 2018 19:28
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Ew not retail sales that’s gross
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Sep 28, 2018 19:29
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If you're that worried, just give me your bank details so I can watch your bank for you in case he steals anything
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Sep 28, 2018 19:29
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Um so you’re OBJECTING to the fact that proper salespeople are literally highly efficient and fully accountable party scientists? Sorry we know how to make you happy??
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Sep 28, 2018 19:30
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I regret starting the sales derail.
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Pick posted:Um so you’re OBJECTING to the fact that proper salespeople are literally highly efficient and fully accountable party scientists? Sorry we know how to make you happy?? You're sure as gently caress not making SA happy
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Sep 28, 2018 19:44
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Drunk Nerds posted:I can't wait to see who wins the Noble Prize for Sales this year, they really are the heroes of society. The sales flak is definitely being a pest but goddamn girl how you gonna write so much down when the answer is just ignore him FFS
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Sep 28, 2018 19:45
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Moon Atari posted:I regret starting the sales derail. guess you could say you sold them on the argument
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Sep 28, 2018 19:45
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anyone who doesn't think salespeople are absolute bottom tier scum of the earth clearly has never had to work with them or, in picks case, has never had to work at all lol
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Sep 28, 2018 19:46
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call center manager posted:You're sure as gently caress not making SA happy I accomplish what I set out to do
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tactlessbastard posted:The sales flak is definitely being a pest but goddamn girl how you gonna write so much down when the answer is just ignore him FFS When I was a pizzaboy I would have to use my personal mobile to call customers who didn't come to the door. Once I did this and the customer didn't answer the phone but came to the door anyway. Once she saw she had a missed call she tried to call me back but I just ignored it. Overnight they sent me about five texts asking who I was and made another three or four calls. I felt too awkward about triggering this weird desperation to answer at that point so chose to just ignore it, expecting them to give up. For the next month they tried calling me at least ten times a day and left hundreds of texts asking "who is this?" and "why did you call?" and "ANSWER ME!!!". I eventually figured out how to block the number, but then I started getting the same messages from a different number. I eventually answered this number and said I don't know who they are but I may have accidentally dialled them. They said okay and never called again.
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Moon Atari posted:When I was a pizzaboy I would have to use my personal mobile to call customers who didn't come to the door. Once I did this and the customer didn't answer the phone but came to the door anyway. Once she saw she had a missed call she tried to call me back but I just ignored it. Overnight they sent me about five texts asking who I was and made another three or four calls. I felt too awkward about triggering this weird desperation to answer at that point so chose to just ignore it, expecting them to give up. For the next month they tried calling me at least ten times a day and left hundreds of texts asking "who is this?" and "why did you call?" and "ANSWER ME!!!". I eventually figured out how to block the number, but then I started getting the same messages from a different number. I eventually answered this number and said I don't know who they are but I may have accidentally dialled them. They said okay and never called again. Lol, holy crap
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Sep 28, 2018 20:09
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Nonvalueadded User posted:
the minimum due is always more than the monthly interest
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Sep 28, 2018 21:18
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My [19m] girlfriend [20f] thought I said something to her in the past when it was actually her friend and it makes me think she doesn’t ever pay attention to what I sayquote:My girlfriend thought I didn’t like going bowling. So she got bowling tickets and said huh idk who to go with. I said what about me? And she said “well you said you don’t play bowling and you hate it?” This one made me laugh.
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Sep 28, 2018 21:18
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LadyPictureShow posted:If you’re that dumb that you have to ask Reddit about this one, yes give him your bank details. Rubellavator posted:If you're that worried, just give me your bank details so I can watch your bank for you in case he steals anything Do "bank details" in the UK (and US I guess for people being "lol" the other way) involve any more than that??? I'm legitimately curious as to what the problem could be, I'd give my account number to any ol' idiot, the only thing they can do with it is give me money!
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Sep 28, 2018 21:26
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the lies salespeople tell themselves about the utility of their job and how irreplaceable their skills are lmao. I'm sure it's just a way to stay sane and I have a lot of sympathy for coping mechanisms so I'll leave it at that
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Sep 28, 2018 21:32
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In the US, people can theoretically take your money if they have your routing number, but it's printed on every check so it's not exactly top secret.
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Sep 28, 2018 21:34
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There are many ways to steal your money with very little information but regardless do not give your money or any information on yourself to drug addicts
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Sep 28, 2018 21:36
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LadyPictureShow posted:My [19m] girlfriend [20f] thought I said something to her in the past when it was actually her friend and it makes me think she doesn’t ever pay attention to what I say The balls on this chick. Big 12lb balls.
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Sep 28, 2018 21:40
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What kind a ritzy, high class bowling alley makes you buy tickets in advance? Are the lanes made of marble or some poo poo?
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Sep 28, 2018 21:42
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cumshitter posted:What kind a ritzy, high class bowling alley makes you buy tickets in advance? Are the lanes made of marble or some poo poo? Oh I see you've never been to a hipster bowling alley with 12 dollar cocktails and "elevated bar food"
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Sep 28, 2018 21:56
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They're probably just crowded so they have a reservation system. That way you won't show up and just have to wait until a group leaves. Not that weird
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Sep 28, 2018 21:57
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La Brea Carpet posted:Oh I see you've never been to a hipster bowling alley with 12 dollar cocktails and "elevated bar food" Gentrifying the location where alcoholics go to have more floor sleeping space
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Drunk Nerds posted:[35M] [24F]
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My girlfriend [27F] assumed I was cheating and harmed my professional reputation [29M]. Am I being too harsh in response? u/Gregory-Berrycone quote:I was abroad for work with minimal access to phone/internet except at the hotel, and she knew that. One night I was out late drinking with colleagues. No funny business was going on, honestly just drinking, having a few laughs and discussing our line of work. Girlfriend assumed I was out cheating, which while incorrect, Many people call him out on not just growing a set and ending the relationship like an adult. Also for feeling like “punishing” her is a good way to handle this. OP posted:I'm not trying to take advantage of the situation to control her, at least not outside this event. Otherwise I'm not that type of guy. While I'd prefer it all just never happened, as a second best option, I've told her that she either needs to have a "punishment" for her or "compensation" for me. Or we can break up, which she does not want, and I don't think I want it either (yeah yeah, I know). Anyway, I've told her that too as another option, where she does something positive. I'm not necessarily trying to extract something from her, but I'd be totally fine with if she completely paid for a vacation for us within a year. Surprisingly, she doesn't seem to like this option, and seems to like the cancelling one (even though money isn't a big issue in our circumstances). No one asked what the career-ruining “joke” was and he doesn’t offer it up at any point in the comments that I could find. This is saddening. burial fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Sep 28, 2018 |
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burial posted:My girlfriend [27F] assumed I was cheating and harmed my professional reputation [29M]. Am I being too harsh in response?
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gently caress Your Website posted:This one falls into the "You're both too stupid to live so stay together to protect the rest of humanity" category. They're apparently both racists, and they're obviously miserable as a couple, so yes, they should stay together as "punishment"
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Living the dream I [52F] and my husband [57M] are having issues with how to deal with my stay at home son [30M] quote:So 6 years ago my son was gainfully employed and seemed to be on a good track in life. Then one day at work he got injured, the ladder he was on gave out and he fell down. His leg was cut by the latter and he broke 2 fingers.
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Sep 28, 2018 23:41
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I was gonna say it sounds like he's addicted but you can't be a gambling addict if you're winning, just a winner at that point.
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Sep 28, 2018 23:42
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Lol that son owns. He's a failson but he's failed up and I'm mad jealous of his lifestyle.
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Sep 28, 2018 23:48
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Hes a complete sack of poo poo and also why I want minimum income in one convenient package.
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LadyPictureShow posted:My [19m] girlfriend [20f] thought I said something to her in the past when it was actually her friend and it makes me think she doesn’t ever pay attention to what I say Good thing nobody ever has a bad memory!
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dudeness posted:I was gonna say it sounds like he's addicted but you can't be a gambling addict if you're winning, just a winner at that point. Let's think critically about what's more likely. Is he an online gambling savant who makes tons of money and never has to worry about a thing? Oooooooor does he mostly lose money but whenever he wins he makes sure to mention it to his mother?
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