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I'm thinking maybe there are several dozen steps in between letting the nazis do whatever they want, and committing mass shootings. Just a thought, albeit not one you're likely to jerk off to.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I dunno why the idea of having your own security is so offensive to you guys. I suspect it's based on an impression that security guys are generally wannabe cops and are more sympathetic to the right.
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Sep 28, 2018 17:41
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There's a big difference in my mind between hiring security and having a few people volunteer to do security
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fool_of_sound posted:don't shoot people over it unless they're trying to kill you. Just lol if you don't realize that a core part of Nazi idealogy is killing undesirables, and their every action is part of trying to do just that.
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BurntCornMuffin posted:Just lol if you don't realize that a core part of Nazi idealogy is killing undesirables, and their every action is part of trying to do just that.
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BurntCornMuffin posted:Just lol if you don't realize that a core part of Nazi idealogy is killing undesirables, and their every action is part of trying to do just that. Preemptive murder isn't a great game to play when the cops are widely on their side
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fool_of_sound posted:Preemptive murder isn't a great game to play when the cops are widely on their side That's a lot easier to say if you arent on the list of undesirables
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Any political group that arms itself and trains in the use of weapons is a paramilitary group. If you're advocating that individual DSA members try to be the Good Guy With A Gun that's an even worse idea. When fascists actually are jumping out of trucks with bats and pipes to beat people to death then we can talk about an armed wing of the DSA (lmao), but until then you're massively over escalating in response to a pepper spray attack. https://twitter.com/dasharez0ne/status/1043300068999213056
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why conceal carry? you can open carry in that state pretty much anywhere (except anywhere the politicians who support open carry live or work), lord knows that in these states it's probably the case that tazing someone is probably punished more harshly than shooting them, like how you can walk around with a rifle but not a sword also sounds like a pretty good way to get lined up and shot by police like in the Haymarket days, but that's the eventual fate of all orgs that utter the words of the killing spell, "general strike"
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sleeptalker posted:I suspect it's based on an impression that security guys are generally wannabe cops and are more sympathetic to the right. And lol at the idea of these groups being able to afford to hire security for a monthly meeting and it not being a serious burden on the organization. That poo poo ain't cheap.
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I think you're all reading a bit too much into "hiring security."
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Alan Smithee posted:kill nazis 
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Azathoth posted:And lol at the idea of these groups being able to afford to hire security for a monthly meeting and it not being a serious burden on the organization. That poo poo ain't cheap.
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Epic High Five posted:why conceal carry? Open carry is good in some contexts but in general public areas it scares the poo poo out of people and that's good enough reason to conceal. I conceal carry and even my heart goes  when I see a weird white guy with a gun on his belt
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fool_of_sound posted:Cool fascist rhetoric in the neonazi thread. Tell me how they're NPCs next. Just curious, you have been posting on SA since 2012 and haven't gotten used to political threads full of "progressives" calling for mass murder of undesirables yet? Monglo has issued a correction as of 20:26 on Sep 28, 2018 |
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Sep 28, 2018 20:24
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My partner at work is gay and he and his husband were almost bashed outside a bar in the city a few years ago. He felt like he was in danger so he drew, reholstered his gun in the eye socket of the guy closest to him and then covered the other guy. These fuckers have no problem using violence against minorities, women and anyone they view as less than them. gently caress them
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Monglo posted:Just curious, you have been posting on SA since 2012 and haven't gotten used to political threads full of "progressives" calling for mass murder of undesirables yet? Lusting for the death of people because of their terrible actions and beliefs is vastly different than lusting for the death of people because of the color of the skin, hth
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Bullfrog posted:Open carry is good in some contexts but in general public areas it scares the poo poo out of people and that's good enough reason to conceal. I conceal carry and even my heart goes When I see it, I get a bit nervous not because it's a gun, but because the kind of guy that open carries is invariably scared all the time and using the gun in the same way that small animals use bright colors to deter predators. They're one bad day and an argument/loud noise away from blindly firing into a crowd while peeing themselves and I don't want to be within shooting distance of someone like that.
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More here: https://twitter.com/UR_Ninja/status/1045786275754725376 Eight 3%er, militia types. quote:The group stood outside the Silver Dollar and yelled at individuals, “take your socialist, commie bullshit and get the gently caress out of here,” “don’t come in my goddamn area anymore.” According to Louisville DSA, the social event was taking place on the outside patio “so they were able to come up next to our table.” The staff clearly asked the Three Percenters to leave, and the confrontation quickly escalated into an apparent assault against DSA event attendees and restaurant staff. I would say this also follows a similar III%er group in Houston which plotted to attack protesters at an event, and one person associated with them showing up at a CPUSA event there and making threats before walking away in a huff. BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 22:37 on Sep 28, 2018 |
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Phi230 posted:*dozens of murders, violent rallies, assaults on left-wing organizers/members of orgs* Phi230 posted:Someone gimme a reading list so I can argue with "moderates" as eloquently as yall Tbf nobody gave you the reading list on how not to be stupid
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:More here: yep lol they hosed up
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The other possible outcome is that the cops don't give a poo poo that bystanders and staff were hurt, because they don't want any business to host DSA at all.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:Methinks they really screwed up by also attacking the staff and the restaurant manager. Cops might not care about the DSA getting attacked, but militia types screwing with a local business like this? not every guy who owns a bar is like best friends with the chief of police or the mayor, if a bar hosts one too many hip hop nights here in liberal seattle, the cops come down hard on the business in terms of over enforcing, finding violations and eventually getting the place shut down. it's a joke in club promoter circles, gays make the venue pop, next come the straight whites making it mainstream, asians come next and spend money giving you a false sense of income and than the blacks get it shut down. im guessing a similar environment happens with venues known to host 'the hippies' or whatever so ya, Louisville is probably a halfway big city, so most likely the cops give no shits about the business owner if they didn't make any arrests on the spot. Because ya, generally speaking getting staff sprayed by some assholes standing on the street would instantly get 12 cops here within seconds and causing even a bigger loving scene, but for sure they'd be arrested. like instantly. Morphix has issued a correction as of 23:02 on Sep 28, 2018 |
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One of the dudes is rocking a Thor's hammer necklace, which doesn't *necessarily* mean white supremacist but... yeah. And this shirt:  quote:[Restaurant owner] Cantley said the men who started the confrontation were lingering inside the bar and bought a few drinks before engaging the Democratic Socialists. She said she has copies of their credit card slips and surveillance footage of them, and she plans to file a criminal complaint Friday with the general manager who was attacked. https://twitter.com/dctello/status/1015586507636314113 https://twitter.com/dctello/status/1015591888966086657 What do you think the odds are this is the same guy?  
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Crowsbeak posted:Nah, WN can only be dealt with by violence. The ideal nation will be one where anyone on nazi boards would have their ip logged, and then their house assaulted by security services that would then take them to a center where they can be properly taught to love the world and fear God. *that scene from fritz the cat where fritz spouts off rhetoric which inspires a riot that gets tons of crows killed*
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fool_of_sound posted:Hmm, nope, not something you should murder a human being over. Carry pepper spray or a taser or a baton if you're worried about being punched, but don't shoot people over it unless they're trying to kill you. Yeah, and none of that is "Lives in a ghetto and has 900 guns". I grew up and still live in a lower-middle-class neighborhood. You're not immune to crime in America until you start living in bougie gated communities with security guards, high walls, and cops on your payroll. So yeah, I've been the victim of crime and had to use a gun without firing it once. Lots of people have because that's the kind of place we live in. I'm sure the next time Nazis start pulling out bats and pipes, you'll be fine just lying down and letting them gently stomp on your neck.
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chitoryu12 posted:Yeah, and none of that is "Lives in a ghetto and has 900 guns". I grew up and still live in a lower-middle-class neighborhood. You're not immune to crime in America until you start living in bougie gated communities with security guards, high walls, and cops on your payroll. So yeah, I've been the victim of crime and had to use a gun without firing it once. Lots of people have because that's the kind of place we live in. You're a perfectly average middle class person who has had to deal with crime once or twice in your life, and like roleplaying as a heroic defender of your family and community.
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Suspicious posted:many ppl itt have been staring too long into the abyss I mean, when the abyss appears, you have two options: you can either stand up to it (which necessarily entails staring into it), or turn your back on it and pretend it isn't there until it eats you
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fool_of_sound posted:You're a perfectly average middle class person who has had to deal with crime once or twice in your life, and like roleplaying as a heroic defender of your family and community. chitoryu12 posted:Yeah, and none of that is "Lives in a ghetto and has 900 guns". I grew up and still live in a lower-middle-class neighborhood. You're not immune to crime in America until you start living in bougie gated communities with security guards, high walls, and cops on your payroll. So yeah, I've been the victim of crime and had to use a gun without firing it once. Lots of people have because that's the kind of place we live in. Jesus christ both of you shut the gently caress up? Who does this arguging help exactly? loving no one. This is why the left gets its neck stomped, because we have no loving unity in the face of fascism and reaction. Stop being so goddamn smug at each other and act like grownups, jesus christ.
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grownups don’t react to a pepper spray attack by insisting they open carry to the next meetup at the bar. well I guess some do.
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Open carry vuvuzelas
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all i can say is if you and your friends showed up at a three-percenter meeting and pepper sprayed them, they'd beat the gently caress out of you and/or shoot you and not make any apologies for it
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https://twitter.com/AntifaCoulter/status/1045395043433865216
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Martin Random posted:*that scene from fritz the cat where fritz spouts off rhetoric which inspires a riot that gets tons of crows killed* And you really beilve that don't you
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Japan had some pretty massive left wing demonstrations recently, didn't they?
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