MaxPowers posted:

I actually wonder if I can sue who ever keeps putting the anti gun bills for WA. The last one was GUN SAFETY CHECKS and it passed and now https://www.initiative1639.org/ they are doing another bill to fund the last one and impose terrible terrible unconstitutional rules and taxes. Legit dont believe it will pass, but I didnt think I594 would pass either.

Lord trump please save WA from losing guns for ever.

MaxPowers posted:

I actually wonder if I can sue who ever keeps putting the anti gun bills for WA. The last one was GUN SAFETY CHECKS and it passed and now https://www.initiative1639.org/ they are doing another bill to fund the last one and impose terrible terrible unconstitutional rules and taxes. Legit dont believe it will pass, but I didnt think I594 would pass either.

Lord trump please save WA from losing guns for ever.

MaxPowers posted:

I actually wonder if I can sue who ever keeps putting the anti gun bills for WA. The last one was GUN SAFETY CHECKS and it passed and now https://www.initiative1639.org/ they are doing another bill to fund the last one and impose terrible terrible unconstitutional rules and taxes. Legit dont believe it will pass, but I didnt think I594 would pass either.

Lord trump please save WA from losing guns for ever.

George posted:

To be fair, Democrats are really good at finding the most racist gun legislation to push forward.

FRINGE posted:

Its real great that the corporate dems are fighting the one fight that will push even more people away from their toxic asses.

White collar / Wall Street crime? nope.

Health care? Nope. (Dental care? Ha!)

Expanded social security? Nope.

Wealth inequality? Nope.

Reversing the eternal war machine? Nope.

Hey fellows! Lets talk about guns!

Thanatosian posted:

Yeah, it's a shame we have so many more mental health issues than all those countries everywhere else that don't have anywhere near as many shootings.

Definitely the mental health issues that are the problem.

Thanatosian posted:

Yeah, it's a shame we have so many more mental health issues than all those countries everywhere else that don't have anywhere near as many shootings.

Definitely the mental health issues that are the problem.

ElCondemn posted:

I don’t have guns and won’t have one in my home, just to be clear on my stance.

Gun violence (actually all violence) is on a downward trend, not because we’re increasing regulation heavily or enforcing laws more strictly. The fact is that violence, yes even gun violence, is less common than ever.

So why is there a big push to regulate guns in the general population more even though it’s not getting worse? Police steadily murder people every year, some years their violence even increases. Why aren’t we seeing more regulation with regards to law enforcement?

I think the point being made is that there are lots of other big problems, why are democrats going after one that’s getting smaller?

Personally, I wish there were gun nuts who were stockpiling to fight to protect people like me. Unfortunately the types to stockpile in this country have a problem with people like me. So I’ll probably vote to increase regulations but only because I’m afraid a “militia” is going to show up at my door one day if things keep going how they are.

FRINGE posted:

Its real great that the corporate dems are fighting the one fight that will push even more people away from their toxic asses.

White collar / Wall Street crime? nope.

Health care? Nope. (Dental care? Ha!)

Expanded social security? Nope.

Wealth inequality? Nope.

Reversing the eternal war machine? Nope.

Hey fellows! Lets talk about guns!

Solkanar512 posted:

Funny you mention dental care, given that you think water fluoridation is nothing more than a big loving joke.

But sure, it's totally within the realm of state and municipal governments to expand social security or reduce the size of the military. And yet no credit is given to our AG who actively fights this poo poo every chance he gets and is rather successful nor to the local politicians who are actively fighting and gaining ground for progressive causes.

This whole "I'm going to move the goalposts between different levels of government and competently different states, find the bad dem, then tar every dem the same way while ignoring the systemic damage being done by anyone with an R at the end of their name" is becoming incredibly tiring. Last year when I looked at the two candidates for mayor of Everett, both were progressives focused on housing the homeless, but no one gives a poo poo about that because Chuck Schumer said something loving dumb and has no power in the Senate as minority leader.

Maybe spend some loving time elevating those who are fighting the good fight instead of this nothing matters bullshit.

Doorknob Slobber posted:

My biggest problem with gun control is when people start talking about criminalizing or penalizing ownership of guns. Especially 'liberals' or other people on the left. The second we start doing that who gets affected the most? Just like with anything else thats criminalized, like drugs, its going to affect brown people the most and joe blow fat white dude will still have thirty assault rifles in his basement that his kid can grab and go shoot up a school because his daddy beats him.

ElCondemn posted:

So why is there a big push to regulate guns in the general population more even though it’s not getting worse?

Cicero posted:

1. Racist and sexist attitudes are also on a long-term downward trend, that doesn't mean doing something about oppressive systems is a bad idea.

2. US gun homicide rates are still abnormally high for a developed country.

Doorknob Slobber posted:

My biggest problem with gun control is when people start talking about criminalizing or penalizing ownership of guns. Especially 'liberals' or other people on the left. The second we start doing that who gets affected the most? Just like with anything else thats criminalized, like drugs, its going to affect brown people the most and joe blow fat white dude will still have thirty assault rifles in his basement that his kid can grab and go shoot up a school because his daddy beats him.

Solkanar512 posted:

Funny you mention dental care, given that you think water fluoridation is nothing more than a big loving joke.

But sure, it's totally within the realm of state and municipal governments to expand social security or reduce the size of the military. And yet no credit is given to our AG who actively fights this poo poo every chance he gets and is rather successful nor to the local politicians who are actively fighting and gaining ground for progressive causes.

This whole "I'm going to move the goalposts between different levels of government and competently different states, find the bad dem, then tar every dem the same way while ignoring the systemic damage being done by anyone with an R at the end of their name" is becoming incredibly tiring. Last year when I looked at the two candidates for mayor of Everett, both were progressives focused on housing the homeless, but no one gives a poo poo about that because Chuck Schumer said something loving dumb and has no power in the Senate as minority leader.

Maybe spend some loving time elevating those who are fighting the good fight instead of this nothing matters bullshit.

Thaddius the Large posted:

Literally nobody is saying “nothing matters” but you, people are saying “Democrats are poo poo for reasons A, B, C, and D”, and have even given examples of what could be done better, who’s doing it, and ways to help, all of which would be better than what Democrats are offering. And “fighting the good fight?” Get the gently caress over this nonsense, it’s meaningless when the fighting is throwing some limp slaps in the middle of a knife fight.

anthonypants posted:

Look, sometimes fighting the good fight means refusing to put addressing climate change on your party's platform.

Doorknob Slobber posted:

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/411766-dems-damp-down-hopes-for-climate-change-agenda

Peachfart posted:

Wouldn't Trump automatically veto any climate change bills anyway?

ElCondemn posted:

Personally, I wish there were gun nuts who were stockpiling to fight to protect people like me. Unfortunately the types to stockpile in this country have a problem with people like me. So I’ll probably vote to increase regulations but only because I’m afraid a “militia” is going to show up at my door one day if things keep going how they are.

Oscar Wild posted:

Guns pose a self harm risk.

RuanGacho posted:

Lol
I wasnt sure how I was voting on that one, but I know now.

MaxPowers posted:

I just hope people read the bill before they vote yes on it. Some P R E T T Y scary wording in there. But I guess if you dont care about your constitutional rights *shrug?*

MaxPowers posted:

I just hope people read the bill before they vote yes on it. Some P R E T T Y scary wording in there. But I guess if you dont care about your constitutional rights *shrug?*

therobit posted:

Conservatives: "Watch out! Liberals wan't to take your guns away!"

Liberals: "That's a lie! We aren't going to take guns away!"

Actual Leftists: "【ＧＩＶＥ　ＭＥ　ＹＯＵＲ　ＧＵＮＳ】"

RuanGacho posted:

RuanGacho posted:

Through the night you will hear a whirring followed by the crashing sound of a large piece of machinery. After a few minutes you'll hear a clattering of metal as they tumble into the furnace. Then the sound repeats anew.

Whirrr
Crash
Clatter

Whirr
Crash
Clatter


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im on the net me boys posted:

If you vote yes on 1639 you're a loving cop