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Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

Missionary Positron posted:

They used Skype to communicate their SUPER DUPER SECRET murder plans? loving Skype?

:psyduck:

Is it possible for police with a court order to get skype calls? Any tech goons know how this would work?

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Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007


howd they get all the blood out

e: checkmate, edrogan-ailures.

khwarezm
Oct 26, 2010

Deal with it.

qkkl posted:

I'm guessing that Turkey is waiting till right before the US midterm elections to release the conclusive evidence that shows the brutal execution and MbS's direct ties to it. I don't now why they'd want to gently caress over Trump though, it's not like the Dems would treat Turkey any better. Maybe it really is just Erdogan being angry that he lost to Trump in that pissing match over the pastor.

I'd find it very doubtful this is factoring into things much, if at all. It's pure happenstance that such a brazenly bungled incident occurred close to the midterms but I also find it doubtful this is actually particularly important to the average American voter, especially one who supports Trump.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

https://twitter.com/henkvaness/status/1054475872571351040?s=21

What a poo poo show, makes the GRU suspects look like Agent 47.

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

Squalid posted:

Is it possible for police with a court order to get skype calls? Any tech goons know how this would work?

Metadata is trivial to get, at least by the US federal government. I can't testify to the reach of the Turkish government. Content would likely not be possible, but in a case like this it'd be the metadata that really constituted the proof. This is part of why I'm starting to get skeptical of these supposedly damning recordings and videos that are Too Hot For Public Consumption. We don't need video of Khashoggi getting killed in such-and-so a way with such-and-so person gloating over him to prove something went down, just metadata that shows Party X called Party Y for Duration Z at Time P at Location J.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Willie Tomg posted:

Metadata is trivial to get, at least by the US federal government. I can't testify to the reach of the Turkish government. Content would likely not be possible, but in a case like this it'd be the metadata that really constituted the proof. This is part of why I'm starting to get skeptical of these supposedly damning recordings and videos that are Too Hot For Public Consumption. We don't need video of Khashoggi getting killed in such-and-so a way with such-and-so person gloating over him to prove something went down, just metadata that shows Party X called Party Y for Duration Z at Time P at Location J.

mbs was just really interested in processing an investment visa for a wealthy Turk who had submitted it the previous day

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Squalid posted:

Is it possible for police with a court order to get skype calls? Any tech goons know how this would work?

Skype has almost certainly been an open book to the US government since shortly after Microsoft bought it.

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

GreyjoyBastard posted:

mbs was just really interested in processing an investment visa for a wealthy Turk who had submitted it the previous day

oh khashoggi was definitely murdered by the saudis on the orders of MBS. That much is provable, now. But I'm calling bullshit on these "we have exclusive video of khashoggi having his dick sawed off while MBS watches on Twitch and jerks off a little on cam" tweets until something other than Some Random Tweet comes up. The actual, verifiable story is insane enough to be going on with, there's no need to start making poo poo up just because this time the zeitgeist of this thread coincidentally happens to agree with turkish media about something.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

https://twitter.com/christinawilkie/status/1054486311342612480
It's never ending with this stuff, god knows what tomorrow will bring with Erdogan's speech.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Willie Tomg posted:

Metadata is trivial to get, at least by the US federal government. I can't testify to the reach of the Turkish government. Content would likely not be possible, but in a case like this it'd be the metadata that really constituted the proof. This is part of why I'm starting to get skeptical of these supposedly damning recordings and videos that are Too Hot For Public Consumption. We don't need video of Khashoggi getting killed in such-and-so a way with such-and-so person gloating over him to prove something went down, just metadata that shows Party X called Party Y for Duration Z at Time P at Location J.

what, you don't believe this guy ported into the office of the Saudi consul's office like motherfucking murderous Zordon to order his men to enact a real life fatality

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Does everybody take notes on their criminal loving conspiracies?

Have to know who to bribe/murder or try to murder/bribe.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/1054499252678918145

I thought this was funny.

... less funny the more I think about it, but still.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!
Who gave Jamal Khashoggi the works?
Everyone knows it thank the Turks.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Willie Tomg posted:

oh khashoggi was definitely murdered by the saudis on the orders of MBS. That much is provable, now. But I'm calling bullshit on these "we have exclusive video of khashoggi having his dick sawed off while MBS watches on Twitch and jerks off a little on cam" tweets until something other than Some Random Tweet comes up. The actual, verifiable story is insane enough to be going on with, there's no need to start making poo poo up just because this time the zeitgeist of this thread coincidentally happens to agree with turkish media about something.

i wasn't mocking you, i was just proposing a new hilariously stupid Saudi defense (and if you use it, Mubs, please wire me ten thousand dollars)

but your point is good

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
lmfao

https://twitter.com/StateDept/status/1054426880537960448

Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

Ahaha

quote:

A senior US official has held talks with Saudi Arabia's crown prince in Riyadh, despite growing concern over the Saudis' role in the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

US Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin met Mohammed bin Salman on Monday.

[...]

They were held despite the fact that Mr Mnuchin - like a number of other Western politicians and businessmen - had pulled out of a major investment forum being held in the Saudi capital this week.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-45946712

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJR1H5tf5wE

Gay Horney
Feb 10, 2013

by Reene
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-israel-uncovers-hezbollah-post-near-lebanon-border-in-violation-of-un-resolution-1.6581281

Man its almost like if your entire military strategy is "make the military look like civilians" some civilians might wind up dying. Tough to say

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
A somber Last Week Tonight segment about this whole mess:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViDPIyiszoo

Somewhat more honest than is the norm about how support for the Saudi regime is a constant among US administrations.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Squalid posted:

Is it possible for police with a court order to get skype calls? Any tech goons know how this would work?

Not to get an archive of one that already happened, Skype will only do live intercept and then only after the proper court order/police request for a country, with the burden being on that investigative agency to handle recording those calls themselves.

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

fishmech posted:

Not to get an archive of one that already happened, Skype will only do live intercept and then only after the proper court order/police request for a country, with the burden being on that investigative agency to handle recording those calls themselves.

:nsa:

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



One of the less noticed stories about the last 2 years of this clown in office is how seemingly every government department is pushing out blatantly false propaganda that looks like it’s from a chain email

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Does everybody take notes on their criminal loving conspiracies?
Great, now i want to see a Khashoggi movie featuring Idris Elba as the turkish inspector.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Erdogan should be speaking soon, he was due to start now, but the MHP just announced they will be ending their cooperation with the AKP, so some last minute political drama in Turkey. The TRT World stream should have a translated version of it live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnWBlBvdK0w

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Looks like Erdogan is about to start speaking.

[edit] Nothing new, although he didn't mention MBS as said he thought the Saudi King was being honest.

Brown Moses fucked around with this message at 11:03 on Oct 23, 2018

The blue bunny
May 29, 2013
twitter trends are interesting

first is justice for Khashaoggi
2nd - future investment initiative in Saudi
3rd Erdogan
4th Erdogan is amazing
https://imgur.com/a/QSoYEpL

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

The blue bunny posted:

twitter trends are interesting

first is justice for Khashaoggi
2nd - future investment initiative in Saudi
3rd Erdogan
4th Erdogan is amazing
https://imgur.com/a/QSoYEpL

Uh... the first I'm seeing is "#Erdogan" in Arabic script.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there
Allegedly they've found body parts...

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://twitter.com/tomgara/status/...ingawful.com%2F

Media Bloodbath
Mar 1, 2018

PIVOT TO ETERNAL SUFFERING
:hb:

:magical:

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Rust Martialis posted:

Allegedly they've found body parts...

It's going to be a Halloween themed easter egg hunt.

AlexanderCA
Jul 21, 2010

by Cyrano4747

That's some game of thrones poo poo.

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004


Any continuation of good relations, if we must have that, should be premised on allowing Khashoggi's family to leave the country if they want to.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



I don’t know what’s worse- that or all the quotes I keep reading from investors at that Saudi conference who keep saying stuff like ‘well, what happened to the man is horrible, but this stuff happens all the time in the ME so let’s not let that get in the way of business’.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

FlamingLiberal posted:

I don’t know what’s worse- that or all the quotes I keep reading from investors at that Saudi conference who keep saying stuff like ‘well, what happened to the man is horrible, but this stuff happens all the time in the ME so let’s not let that get in the way of business’.

Oh you don't mean the class of people who are universally terrible loving pieces of poo poo who dont deserve the air they're stealing from others.

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

https://twitter.com/allissonCD/status/1054772129449869314

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Yessss

https://mobile.twitter.com/ramahkudaimi/status/1054741108843073536

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

holy poo poo if a gaze could kill...

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

Giving away the game here:

https://twitter.com/dandrezner/status/1054813221272633349

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Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
I love how wildly, spectacularly bad at international politics Kushner is.

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