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Yeah, I double-checked my sample ballot after my "Who?" comment and he's in there with an endorsement.
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Some jerk knocked over my Ammar Campa-Najjar sign. So now I have two.
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From the Trump thread.JasonV posted:The system is broken: I really hope Prop 8 passes. gently caress these ghouls for holding people hostage over their profit margins.
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Skippy McPants posted:From the Trump thread. Whether it passes or not it's a good thing for the SEIU because they essentially punished the baddies for not negotiating with them
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Oct 27, 2018 00:59
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Can we just seize $110m of their profits and give it directly to their patients on the basis that if they can afford to spend that on political ads, we must have been overpaying them for their services for ages?
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Leperflesh posted:Can we just seize
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um excuse me but if those companies werent making billions of dollars of profits off diabetics then there would be no dialysis, take some economics 101 socialists
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Oct 27, 2018 01:22
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I've been absolutely bombarded by No on the Dialysis prop while watching local sports in LA. Every single commercial break. It's insane. 2nd place probably goes to No on 6. 3rd place to yes on the prop that fucks over EMTs.
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We just signed up for "The Last Weekend", the big GOTV event the election before midterms. https://swingleft.org/gotv Doing it in LA. What should we expect? What is it like? Do they give us a canned speech and specific candidates to endorse or is it more about making sure people know there's a midterm? How structured is it? While going door to door would it be possible for us to also spread the word that the DSA voter guide exists for all the low level offices that voters might otherwise make random choices on?
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Dumb Lowtax posted:We just signed up for "The Last Weekend", the big GOTV event the election before midterms. The scripts tend to be different depending on what the campaign wants to focus on. At that point, it might not be about persuading undecideds any more, and just making sure people show up to vote (thus, GOTV). In my experience, the GOTV scripts tend to be about making sure people make a plan for it, helping them figure out where their polling station is, tell them when the polls close, and making sure that people know about resources like drivers who will send you to the polls and so on. There's also a chance you'll have to persuade someone to vote for your candidate. The best way these things go is if you develop some rapport with the person and just have a conversation with them. It takes a while to get comfortable doing that though, so the script tends to just be a good starting point. You'll probably get a lot of 'not homes', and some people who just want to vent to you about how mad they are about things. The conversations don't have to be super structured, but most of what else you do probably will be. Generally, you'll be given a packet (addresses they want you to visit in a defined area - usually anywhere from 30-60 houses. it's called a packet but these days it's just a list in an app), and you'll knock on all those doors. The apps will have a place for you to mark things about the house - supporter/not home/ refused survey/ moved, etc. So, go to the house, knock on the door, talk to them, then fill out the requisite tabs. If no one's home, leave a brochure/flyer/door hang. Regarding brochures: I was in Modesto last weekend canvassing for Harder, and the Central Valley Dems gave us brochures for what they were endorsing for the local elections. You may get the same to distribute. Since you're coordinating through Swing Left, you're probably attached to a House race campaign. To my understanding, it's generally frowned down upon to deliver other messages, since people will get canvassed many times. If you're coming through with a DSA guide but yesterday, someone else showed up with the official Dem guide, it's a bit of a conflicting message for the recipients, especially if you both say you're there for the same candidate. Still, best to ask the campaign. (I had asked if I could also remind people to sign up for CoveredCA, and got a very lukewarm response about that). Just remember to finish your entire packet! Hit every house on your list; do not leave it incomplete!! If you can't finish it, get your friends to help you, since otherwise, a campaign staffer will have to go out and do it.
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Skippy McPants posted:From the Trump thread. I honestly voted for Prop 8 despite thinking that it was a bit of a weird approach to try to get the industry to pay their workers more. Now, I just hope that those fuckers lose simply because they found $110 million to spend on campaigning after fighting unions for years claiming that it would force them to drive up prices.
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Oct 27, 2018 16:24
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Besides the DSA guide, is there a even Democratic Party voter guide that also covers all the lowest level offices that would have competing/conflicting endorsements vs. the DSA one? Or is the DNCC ambivalent about certain elected positions (because both candidates are democrats) that the DSA isn't, as apparent on their website where they try to analyze which candidate is *most* left? It would be nice to harness some of that voter uncertainty about what the heck to do once they get to the lower level offices on their ballot with names they've never heard of, and no policy positions listed, and have to make a decision right there. I think in some of these tiny offices, it wouldn't even take that many leftists to swing the vote, as long as they just stopped choosing randomly. Even a little widespread knowledge about a consistent voter guide might have the power to get a lot of leftists into office versus centrists.
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I saw this posted on the TWC slack, a step up from the random search engine incantations I used to invoke. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VSNu5-tCZlSMNNHKilkupDxR8x8ig7BiEPfvqjdNZSg/edit
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Peace and Freedom's stance on bonds is interesting, and I wouldn't have understood any progressive opposition to 12 if I hadn't read up on Drake Talk... very useful doc, thanks edit: will still be voting yes on 12, but not as confidently as before pending more investigation. Shear Modulus posted:um excuse me but if those companies werent making billions of dollars of profits off diabetics then there would be no dialysis, take some economics 101 socialists There is a similar fight in MA right now over life is a joke fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Oct 27, 2018 |
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Oct 27, 2018 18:49
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Dumb Lowtax posted:Besides the DSA guide, is there a even Democratic Party voter guide that also covers all the lowest level offices that would have competing/conflicting endorsements vs. the DSA one? Or is the DNCC ambivalent about certain elected positions (because both candidates are democrats) that the DSA isn't, as apparent on their website where they try to analyze which candidate is *most* left? The Central Valley Democratic Club published theirs, and I'm not sure it went down to like, school board elections, but it covered a lot of ground. But don't do this, seriously. While in theory it sounds nice, it muddles the message. If you're showing up saying that you're here to talk to you about why you should vote for this Democrat and then mention "Democratic Socialists", you run the risk of scaring off more voters. Because now, suddenly, that guy is going to be associated with 'socialists' in the voter's mind, and that does not always go well, *especially* in a traditionally Republican district. You are not there on behalf of DSA, you are knocking on doors on behalf of the campaign organizing that GOTV. Edit: If you really, really want to do this, please at least ask the campaign if you can. stab stabby fucked around with this message at 10:05 on Oct 28, 2018 |
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stab stabby posted:The Central Valley Democratic Club published theirs, and I'm not sure it went down to like, school board elections, but it covered a lot of ground. making GBS threads on Democrats actually can go pretty well in traditionally Republican areas
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Dumb Lowtax posted:Besides the DSA guide, is there a even Democratic Party voter guide that also covers all the lowest level offices that would have competing/conflicting endorsements vs. the DSA one? Or is the DNCC ambivalent about certain elected positions (because both candidates are democrats) that the DSA isn't, as apparent on their website where they try to analyze which candidate is *most* left? Check your local Democratic clubs, our city's Young Democrats published an endorsement list with all the local offices.
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Oct 28, 2018 16:38
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Dropped my ballot in the mail, pretty much voted according to the DSA voter guide for San Diego. Really hope Levin gets the seat over Harker
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Tarezax posted:Dropped my ballot in the mail, pretty much voted according to the DSA voter guide for San Diego. May I ask how you decided votes on the judicial side of things? I'm trying to cobble together a guide for some friends I'm slowly turning into comrades and my mother, who just became a US citizen.  She's always been progressive as gently caress, I'm very proud of my ma.I feel like I should have some explanations for some of the props and votes though, and I've got absolutely nothing for all the judicial poo poo.
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Oct 28, 2018 23:55
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Carol Corrigan was the dissenting vote on the decision overturning Prop 8 so that was a definite no. For the rest I just based it off which governor appointed them.
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Necroskowitz posted:Carol Corrigan was the dissenting vote on the decision overturning Prop 8 so that was a definite no. For the rest I just based it off which governor appointed them. 
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Necroskowitz posted:Carol Corrigan was the dissenting vote on the decision overturning Prop 8 so that was a definite no. For the rest I just based it off which governor appointed them. Basically this
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Hi, could I get a rundown of state finance concepts because I am a big dumb idiot, who is dumb? I'm looking at bonds propositions and realizing I don't really know what risk there is to the state in issuing bonds. I know governments don't have to run their accounts the way households do, but I know the state also doesn't have infinite money.
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Oct 29, 2018 16:51
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Pete Rates the Propositions has a good one: http://www.peterates.com/props-1118.shtml#bonds
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Well, they have to repay the bonds. That's about it. California isn't really in danger of defaulting on its debts afaik. Bonds are a more popular way to pay for things than tax increases. Do note that Prop 4 involves allowing the state to pay for an existing bond with tax income, not creating a new bond. Pete Rates is wrong on that one.
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Oct 29, 2018 17:03
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Bonds smooth what would otherwise be very "lumpy" spending for capital improvements in particular. It's easier to sell $20B in bonds and pay $1B a year from the budget for a new road or bridge or whatever, than to pass taxes to raise $20B up front in one year. Also note that businesses raise capital with bond issues too, this is not just a government thing. And private individuals get mortgages or loans for large capital expenditures like cars and houses. Imagine if you had to save 100% of the cost of a house before you could buy one.
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The DSA-LA voter guide made a note of the bond amount and interest coming to $17B for one of them, which caught my attention less because of the number than because the guide didn't really bother to make a note of interest cost on the props it more strongly favored. So I got to wondering what downsides there could be when I was evaluating the bond props that weren't so clearly good ideas.
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a bond is just the state taking out a loan, where instead of going to the bank to get the loan they sell off chunks of the IOU to whoever wants them
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This is all the more reason to vote Yes on B in LA, and maybe one day a similar state level proposition, because a public bank doing the financing would/could (I guess depending on specifics) result in both interest being lower and that interest going towards available capital for other public projects and infrastructure, and all in a democratically accountable way.
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Oct 29, 2018 17:34
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an actual public bank should charge lower interest rates, since they wouldn't be charging higher than the rate they can borrow at plus overhead (which is where a bank's profits come from) obviously you'd need to find some scrupulous bankers that wouldnt pad their expenses to pay themselves zillion-dollar salaries as part of overhead which i dunno if they exist anymore
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Oct 29, 2018 17:42
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Okay, so eat poo poo Corrigan. Got it. And thanks!
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The way government bonds usually work is that they contract with an underwriter (either through competitive bid or negotiation) who pays them the entire bond amount minus some costs/profit upfront, then sells the bonds to investors. So for example if California approves a $10 billion bond issue, they’ll get $9.8 billion (let’s say) immediately and then pay off the $10 billion plus interest over time to the investors who bought the bonds - not the underwriter. The underwriter makes up the money they paid upfront by selling the bonds. So having a public bank issue the bonds would (probably) reduce the gap between the face value of the bonds and the actual amount the government gets for them, but wouldn’t reduce the interest paid. Whoever is buying the bonds is going to want the same amount of interest regardless of if they get the bonds from a private underwriter or a public bank. e: to answer the original question, there is essentially no risk to the State of California in issuing the bonds, other than the risk that interest rates could crash right after they issue them and so they owe more interest than they would if they’d waited. But in that case they can just refinance. Badger of Basra fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Oct 30, 2018 |
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In San Diego, there's a district judge named Gary Kreep. He filed legal challenges for President Obama's birth certificate and defended the Minutemen. So if you're down here, vote his rear end out.
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Judge Kreep is a name that pretty much says it all.
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Glass of Milk posted:In San Diego, there's a district judge named Gary Kreep. He filed legal challenges for President Obama's birth certificate and defended the Minutemen. So if you're down here, vote his rear end out. He’s also been disciplined for multiple instances of misconduct and is a real piece of poo poo.
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for the love of god someone vote this wet sack of poo poo out of office get hosed ken calvert (he's never leaving  )
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FCKGW posted:for the love of god someone vote this wet sack of poo poo out of office I did my part and voted Peacock, but yeah
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I was filling out my ballot tonight and I looked up the Republican challenger for my House race. The dude has a big chunk of his site where he talks about chemtrails, what looks like a cut rate Dahir Insaat video, and of course, The Federal Reserve This is the third time he has been the Republican challenger for this seat (2014, 16, 18), so I guess the local republican party just doesn't give a gently caress
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The Glumslinger posted:I was filling out my ballot tonight and I looked up the Republican challenger for my House race. The dude has a big chunk of his site where he talks about chemtrails, what looks like a cut rate Dahir Insaat video, and of course, The Federal Reserve The sacrificial lamb republicans in deeply democratic districts are some of the most absolute balls out crazy motherfuckers. Sacrificial lamb democrats in deep republican districts are usually just boring neolib technocrats or diet republicans.
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Instant Sunrise posted:The sacrificial lamb republicans in deeply democratic districts are some of the most absolute balls out crazy motherfuckers. I've heard anecdotally that Democrats in states like Idaho and Wyoming are crazy liberal because you have to be a diehard believer to be a Democrat in one of those states. Not sure if that's actually true though
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