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OddObserver posted:"Take control of their agricultural seed supply" does sound like an evil overlord kinda move, though. this is a normal thing for anyone who sells a product. you can get all worked up about how grocery stores have "taken control of our food supply" if you want but that's just part of living in a modern society. modern farmers don't save seed from the last harvest like a 19t century farmer, it's always better and easier to buy from seed banks
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# ? May 28, 2024 07:48 |
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Just the best people, folks. He only hires the best people.
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 17:11 |
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https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/1064916454846459904?s=19
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 17:27 |
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luxury handset posted:this is a normal thing for anyone who sells a product. you can get all worked up about how grocery stores have "taken control of our food supply" if you want Well that does sound ominous. I really don't think a single grocery chain should have a monopoly on the world food supply.
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 17:39 |
I love how even Mariotti can't bring himself to say that it "would" be, only that it "could" be. Interfering with the intent to undermine is literally the definition of OOJ. It's okay to use words to mean things.
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 17:40 |
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e: nm
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 17:45 |
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VitalSigns posted:Well that does sound ominous. monsanto doesn't have a monopoly on the world food supply, it only dominates some markets in the us if you have a point to make, make it. petty sniping is boring e: try to clear the bar of "corporations bad" also, nobody likes monsanto but we're kind of stuck with giant ag-tech firms to feed our huge and growing global population Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Nov 20, 2018 |
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/1064936052698333186
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 18:43 |
I'm the opening line of a presidential statement: "the world is a very dangerous place!" This feels like it was dictated to someone with all of these run-on sentences and rambling.
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 18:47 |
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Clearly this mess is what happens when Trump dictates and then someone desperately tries to dress it up as coherent.
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 18:47 |
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Helluva lede
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 18:47 |
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Drone posted:I'm the opening line of a presidential statement: "the world is a very dangerous place!" i wonder if there's some poor low level idiots in the white house press office who have to take copy and try to make it sound more like trump's dementia vernacular
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 18:48 |
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I don't want to just start posting everything she tweets, but she really knows how to say thing effectively. https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1064937655119605761
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 18:50 |
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Drone posted:I'm the opening line of a presidential statement: "the world is a very dangerous place!" Danger and opportunity!
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 18:59 |
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The start of that last paragraph though. You can tell Trump said something insanely totalitarian, and someone had to edit it out and replace it with the exact opposite.
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 19:05 |
haveblue posted:Danger and opportunity! Trump is the opening crawl from Revenge of the Sith. War! Heroes on both sides!
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 19:09 |
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Otherkinsey Scale posted:The start of that last paragraph though. You can tell Trump said something insanely totalitarian, and someone had to edit it out and replace it with the exact opposite. Not surprised that the American remake of fascism has to be dumbed down to be more accessible to American audiences.
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 19:20 |
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I want change... to the left
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 20:10 |
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I thought I was inured to Trump, but I honestly thought this was a satire piece.
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 20:31 |
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luxury handset posted:this is a normal thing for anyone who sells a product. you can get all worked up about how grocery stores have "taken control of our food supply" if you want but that's just part of living in a modern society. modern farmers don't save seed from the last harvest like a 19t century farmer, it's always better and easier to buy from seed banks To add to this, even if you were a farmer trying to save seed from Monsanto and re-plant it, you'd find that your crops would basically suck compared to the seed you bought from the company. The high performance of their "elite hybrids" only really sticks around for the 1st generation of crosses, crosses that they perform to generate the seed you buy. And it's been this way for like 100 years at this point.
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 20:34 |
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JasonV posted:I don't want to just start posting everything she tweets, but she really knows how to say thing effectively. JasonV posted:I don't want to just start posting everything she tweets, but she really knows how to say thing effectively. The way I've seen it she's literally the voice of D&D in congress right now and like the only high profile politician with a far left enough position for the collective to accept. Not sure it's how she says it so much as what she's saying shoots so far down the line of D&D's concerns (and does the whole scoring dunks thing on social media) that I'd swear she must have an account and post here. It's funny that people think Trump is the poor disadvantaged people's champion when she both looks and acts the part so far in her career. I notice she's never really started poo poo though, more just responded to it being flung at her from literal other parties and they've really been all the gently caress over her this week, singling her out for smears, and lying their goddamn face off about her intentions to "stir up trouble and revolution" . As some of the better pundits have pointed out it looks like an attempt to start the whole divide and conquer strategy against the Democratic house early. They really ought to back off a little too cause it's not going the way they plan and just makes them look even more like petty lying idiots that don't know how to play the social media game nearly as well as they seem to think.
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 20:42 |
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https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/1064933282255642624 https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1064953991887536129 https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1064887730671443971 marshmonkey fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Nov 20, 2018 |
# ? Nov 20, 2018 20:47 |
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Such a big strong president man that won't even watch the tape to get to the bottom of a pivotal international matter because he claims it might contain too much suffering. So nice of the president to confirm publicly in many ways just how fragile he is and that he yet again can't be counted on to do the job of a President. I guess we'll just you know....never know what really happened because man that tape is just tooooooooo graphic. I mean how can you really know I think this really does take the cake for the pathetic look of Trump as President. Kind of amazed at how he keeps managing to top himself only a week or so after not attending the 100 year anniversary of the WWI armistice cause he might risk getting wet. At least he gives the Chris Cilliza's of punditry even easier fodder for a bit to write about how "Trump has abdicated the moral authority of the United States and here's why in case you somehow can't figure it out by all the headlines"
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 21:12 |
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I'll be damned. Complaining at capitalists somehow actually worked for once?
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 21:25 |
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I'll be damned. Complaining at capitalists somehow actually worked for once? You should follow Sleeping Giants on Twitter (@slpng_giants). That's their whole mission, to just call out advertisers and corporate donors that support lovely people or advertise on lovely websites.
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 21:29 |
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So how often is it that the entire country is told to avoid eating something regardless of where it came from? This is about an extreme a food safety warning as I think I've ever seen. https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/1064976806401454080
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 21:37 |
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paperwind posted:So how often is it that the entire country is told to avoid eating something regardless of where it came from? This is about an extreme a food safety warning as I think I've ever seen. I’m literally eating a Caesar salad while reading this thread, and now I’m tremendously sad.
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 21:44 |
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paperwind posted:So how often is it that the entire country is told to avoid eating something regardless of where it came from? This is about an extreme a food safety warning as I think I've ever seen. *Looks down at the romaine salad I'm currently in the process of eating* gently caress
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 21:46 |
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paperwind posted:So how often is it that the entire country is told to avoid eating something regardless of where it came from? This is about an extreme a food safety warning as I think I've ever seen. it's not terribly uncommon, it's just a weird situation that the CDC would be able to identify a specific food item but not be able to identify a region or production method for that item. in december 2017 there was an outbreak linked to general "leafy greens" but they weren't able to pin it down in time for the danger to have naturally passed beyond the shelf life of the expected contaminated food, aka it was all eaten or rotted so everyone who was going to get sick had already gotten sick so outbreak over, i guess https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2018/s0110-update-ecoli.html quote:On January 10, 2018, the Public Health Agency of Canada reported that an outbreak of Shiga toxin-producing E. coli O157:H7 infections (STEC O157:H7) they had identified was linked to romaine lettuce appears to be over.
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 21:47 |
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paperwind posted:So how often is it that the entire country is told to avoid eating something regardless of where it came from? This is about an extreme a food safety warning as I think I've ever seen. We literally just had a romaine outbreak a few months ago
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 21:49 |
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paperwind posted:So how often is it that the entire country is told to avoid eating something regardless of where it came from? This is about an extreme a food safety warning as I think I've ever seen. Planet Money recently did an episode on food warnings like this, covering the semi-recent E. coli romaine lettuce outbreak: https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2018/08/24/641739640/episode-861-food-scare-squad The tl;dl is that it's really hard to even identify the vector of the outbreak, and once the vector is identified it can take even longer to isolate it to a specific region or farm(s). So the warnings often start out very broad to try and avert as much damage as possible as quickly as possible, then narrowed further over time as the investigations find the specific location. So in this case they probably have enough evidence to say that it's romaine-related, but not enough evidence to pin it on a specific location yet (or even at all, it could be something like bad handling at transportation facilities which might not bind it to a specific growing region). So the warning is a blanket until they get more details.
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 21:57 |
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You don't make friends with salad.
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 21:57 |
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paperwind posted:So how often is it that the entire country is told to avoid eating something regardless of where it came from? This is about an extreme a food safety warning as I think I've ever seen. Didnt this already happen eariler this year? Freaking Big Salad and their cost cutting anti reg lobbying preventing me from giving them more money as I try to eat healthier. (protip just make boiled collard greens and enjoy your greens and smoked turkey/ham along with your pot liqueur)
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 22:00 |
Wasn't it attributed to lettuce farms not letting their undocumented workers take bathroom breaks so they have to poo poo in the fields? Or was that just the woke nod-and-wink presumption?
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https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1064994565315280897
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Data Graham posted:Wasn't it attributed to lettuce farms not letting their undocumented workers take bathroom breaks so they have to poo poo in the fields? Or was that just the woke nod-and-wink presumption? I think that's the usual conspiracy statement, but I typically hear it tied to more racist things. "Those filthy farm workers just poo poo where ever." Realistically, food is cleaned and processed after harvesting to minimize these kinds of problems (you can never eliminate them entirely; lettuce traps plenty of dirt) so it's more likely some rear end in a top hat not doing their food safety duties. Chalk me up as another person who just bought a head of romaine to use for dinner tonight.
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# ? Nov 20, 2018 22:40 |
Prooooobably not a good thing to have a judge speculating on your filing being sanctionable: https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1064995103666814977 Seems like the judge is completely through with the Gov's attempt to delay poo poo in the hopes that they can drag it out past the point of no return when all the forms are finalized and printed.
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Data Graham posted:Wasn't it attributed to lettuce farms not letting their undocumented workers take bathroom breaks so they have to poo poo in the fields? Or was that just the woke nod-and-wink presumption? fecal contamination is usually the issue but it's related to animals and contaminated water most often, not dirty fly-befouled immigrants (or oppressive overlords preventing bathroom breaks in the less racist version)
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paperwind posted:So how often is it that the entire country is told to avoid eating something regardless of where it came from? This is about an extreme a food safety warning as I think I've ever seen. hot take: maybe we should pay agriculture employees enough and give them reasonable working hours so they don't have to poo poo in the fields just to make quota. That was ultimately the reason for the last romaine lettuce contamination outbreak right?
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axeil posted:hot take: maybe we should pay agriculture employees enough and give them reasonable working hours so they don't have to poo poo in the fields just to make quota. no, it's far more likely to be linked to an animal fecal source than human. "workers forced to poo poo in the fields" is just the less racist version of "pedro don't wash his hands" when there's a far greater volume of uncontrolled cattle excrement in ag areas than human excrement https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/03/180312150520.htm https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/08/29/642646707/investigators-track-contaminated-lettuce-outbreak-to-a-cattle-feedlot think about it for a second - how many workers would have to be secretly dropping trou in a lettuce field (lettuce doesn't grow very high and isn't that easy to secretly crap in) and what would their intestinal viral loads have to be at in order to cause a significant national outbreak? meanwhile, there's a shitload of cows a quarter mile away... Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Nov 20, 2018 |
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