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Bardeh posted:I can still see the group in my Steam list and there are a ton of people in it, but nobody in chat and I don't think I've seen any notifications or activity from it in yonks. I made this, if anyone wants to join and play some games sometime. Just sent a request, my username's the same as on SA. Edit: 299 is apparently slang for a cigarette on urban dictionary? Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Nov 30, 2018 |
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Gort posted:How does that square with his previous comments to the tune of, "We'll give you extra negotiating time if there's a change in government"? Strikes me a classic EU, in that once they have an agreement they will say anything publicly to help get it through. If a new government came in I would expect them to talk cautiously at first but once they work out they are someone they can work with change their tune very quickly.
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I accepted everyone who wanted in to the group. I'm not sure how to make it so everyone can do that, I'll fiddle with it later.
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can someone explain how the guardian went from exposing the NSA to being a propaganda outlet for intelligence agencies? https://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/11/this-intentional-guardian-fake-news-story-proves-that-the-media-cant-be-trusted.html
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# ? Nov 30, 2018 17:38 |
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Let's have some nicer news, shall we?BBC News posted:A boy who sent a birthday card to his dad "in heaven" received a touching letter from the Royal Mail to say it had been delivered safely. It'll be awkward when the kid tries to arrange for his Dad to visit in a few years, mind you.
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# ? Nov 30, 2018 17:40 |
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Comrade Fakename posted:My mum died so I probably won’t be receiving or giving presents with anyone and instead will be having Christmas alone. Good times! Greetings fellow orphan, if you have more distant family or even friends, consider asking outright for invitations. People are pleased to help if they can, and even a short visit that breaks up the day can make it much more bearable.
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# ? Nov 30, 2018 17:43 |
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mila kunis posted:can someone explain how the guardian went from exposing the NSA to being a propaganda outlet for intelligence agencies? If I remember correctly, they got hit pretty hard by GCHQ after the Snowden leaks and got the everliving gently caress scared out of them
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# ? Nov 30, 2018 17:44 |
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mila kunis posted:can someone explain how the guardian went from exposing the NSA to being a propaganda outlet for intelligence agencies? Maybe quit taking your news from a blog run by one weird dude who's still using an AOL email address and is very het up about people who say mean things about Vladimir Putin? Just a thought, la
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Trin Tragula posted:Maybe quit taking your news from a blog run by one weird dude who's still using an AOL email address and is very het up about people who say mean things about Vladimir Putin? Just a thought, la The general gist of it isn't wrong though is it?
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Ian Austin has written an article in the guardian saying labour should vote for mays deal
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Trin Tragula posted:Maybe quit taking your news from a blog run by one weird dude who's still using an AOL email address and is very het up about people who say mean things about Vladimir Putin? Just a thought, la yeah i way prefer reputable news sources like the guardian to this insane stuff detailing everything with links and sources
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mila kunis posted:can someone explain how the guardian went from exposing the NSA to being a propaganda outlet for intelligence agencies? Well, hope that helps.
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Skilbs posted:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-46398021 quote:"You had a group of six to 10 boys wanting to show off in front of their friends, and that developed into kicks, karate kicks, punching and people jumping around sparring," he said. kingturnip posted:Let's have some nicer news, shall we?
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Jose posted:Ian Austin has written an article in the guardian saying labour should vote for mays deal That guy sounds like he sucks.
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"Tory-run Northamptonshire county council bailed out by government posted:The government has in effect bailed out Tory-run Northamptonshire county council after giving it unprecedented permission to spend up to £60m of cash received from the sale of its HQ on funding day-to-day services.
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V. Illych L. posted:blah blah Tory Brexit is shite, if we cannot do better we oughtn't leave at all blah blah wash our hands blah blah disastrous negotiations regrettably we must choose the best of three bad choices blah blah I reckon Labour will take this line and fight with all the other parties to stop Brexit. The questions after that though are: will it make any difference and what the gently caress do Labour campaign on in the following general election?
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# ? Nov 30, 2018 18:13 |
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who the hell even knows, politics went utterly mad at some point during the last decade
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lol this is exactly why they weren't making cuts like they were told to
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Comrade Fakename posted:My mum died so I probably won’t be receiving or giving presents with anyone and instead will be having Christmas alone. Good times! My condolences. Tsietisin posted:I understand how you feel as my mother, the last member of my family, is gravely ill and probably not going to last until Christmas. She has brain tumor and lung cancer. Very sorry to read this too. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Nov 30, 2018 |
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mila kunis posted:can someone explain how the guardian went from exposing the NSA to being a propaganda outlet for intelligence agencies? Wikileaks turned out to be a Russian psyop. Russia invaded Ukraine. Trump won the election. Brexit. With the world in such a state, with state actors acting in bad faith as standard, as fascism returns to the world: Why wouldn't everyone else be just doing whatever? The west has lacked strong ideals for decades now. Nothing mattered except the markets and people consuming. Turns out when you don't care about anything the rest of the world is going to exploit every aspect of your society. So today the guardian works for the NSA. In a couple of years plants may have taken over and it now works for Putin. Much like the BBC was just suddenly a Tory propaganda front one day. We blinked and it was like it had been this way all along.
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# ? Nov 30, 2018 18:24 |
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OwlFancier posted:Can you imagine the poor translator who has to try and make trump sound intelligible. This a total tangent to nowhere but it wasnt until I started learning a new language as an adult, when I actually cared about it compared to learning french at school, that I realised how incredibly difficult and subjective translation is. So much of spoken language is based on idioms and commonly understand references that are impossible to directly translate and a bad translator can make a total hash of things without technically being wrong. That goes triple for diplomatic translators I imagine. What Im saying is Im fairly certain is that at some point a translator has probably either stopped or nearly started a war.
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namesake posted:I reckon Labour will take this line and fight with all the other parties to stop Brexit. The questions after that though are: will it make any difference and what the gently caress do Labour campaign on in the following general election? The same things Labour has already been campaigning about?
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jBrereton posted:By calling a "free and fair vote" whose only aim is to return a different result, you are starting off from a reactionary premise while retaining the most trivial and least important aspect of democracy (the vote). It's peak neoliberalism. and yeah the aim of the people agitating for it currently is to reverse the decision but if e.g. parliament tries to break a deadlock by seeking the public's approval for the deal instead of just saying "gently caress it, we voted down the PMs deal so no deal it is" then would that be undemocratic? what do you actually do in that situation? crash out even though no one really wants to but at least it could be interpreted as the will of the people? just another general election? presumably we have to hope no one tries to turn it into any kind of referendum on anything
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Random Integer posted:This a total tangent to nowhere but it wasnt until I started learning a new language as an adult, when I actually cared about it compared to learning french at school, that I realised how incredibly difficult and subjective translation is. So much of spoken language is based on idioms and commonly understand references that are impossible to directly translate and a bad translator can make a total hash of things without technically being wrong. That goes triple for diplomatic translators I imagine. What Im saying is Im fairly certain is that at some point a translator has probably either stopped or nearly started a war. When I had a spate abroad teaching English as a foreign language to adults, I used to explore this with students. A good example was saying that something "just isn't cricket". We would pull that apart and then I would get them to think of phrases in Arabic (which I was learning) which had the same cultural baggage that wouldn't be appreciated in a straightforward translation. One funny - I bought a dual English / Arabic text of Macbeth and where the English talks about moors (as in open, sparse uplands), the Arabic word chosen for the translation had used 'marina' (as in mooring boats). We had some fun with that!
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https://twitter.com/darryljoemurphy/status/1068490881341276161
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Captain Fargle posted:The same things Labour has already been campaigning about? So a Labour government would put another bill to parliament to trigger article 50 as is the will of the people? That'll cause a huge amount of disarray during the campaign.
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https://twitter.com/Kevinliptakcnn/status/1068526102979653632
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Random Integer posted:This a total tangent to nowhere but it wasnt until I started learning a new language as an adult, when I actually cared about it compared to learning french at school, that I realised how incredibly difficult and subjective translation is. So much of spoken language is based on idioms and commonly understand references that are impossible to directly translate and a bad translator can make a total hash of things without technically being wrong. That goes triple for diplomatic translators I imagine. What Im saying is Im fairly certain is that at some point a translator has probably either stopped or nearly started a war. A brother of an acquaintance of mine is (or at least was) a translator at the UN. Apparently he describes it as "high adrenaline" for the reasons you mention - getting the intention behind the language across is really important and not easy and they're under pressure to do it quickly.
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Brony Car posted:Donald Tusk kind of screwed Corbyn, didn’t he? It definitely ramps up the “May Deal or no Brexit!” framing. Nah. It's extremely typical EU behaviour. You will find that there's always a fudge to be made if people want it and you're important enough. The UK isn't Greece so you'll get one.
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XMNN posted:how is voting the least important part of a democracy? can you even have one without it (or some other method of determining consensus)? like the debate and the engagement with politics and all that poo poo is also important but in order for the demos to cratise themselves surely they have to be consulted at some point? Well we live in a representative democracy so technically anything that parliament decides on unless it's in direct contradiction of a manifesto promise (which people have implicitly voted for) is democratic? Ultimately though it's all shite because the elected representatives should in theory be representing the "will of the people" (I hate that phrase now) but the will of the people is wrong often - e.g. if we had a referendum on capital punishment or nuclear power or any number of other things the public would probably vote for The Bad Thing™ and that's why we elect MPs because in theory we are trusting them to decide poo poo like this, even if it doesn't match necessary with the populist viewpoint. That said, anything which the public disagrees with *AND* cares about enough will generally not get carried out by a representative democracy. Stuff like the death penalty, yeah if you asked the general public you might get back an answer that we should have it, BUT probably the majority of people will not express a preference strongly enough such that when the government bans it, they'll make much noise about it and that's kind of the key. So I guess we need to agitate against No Deal? I'd like to hope that if it looks like No Deal is a realistic prospect that poo poo will kick off in a huge way. WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Nov 30, 2018 |
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namesake posted:I reckon Labour will take this line and fight with all the other parties to stop Brexit. The questions after that though are: will it make any difference and what the gently caress do Labour campaign on in the following general election? Campaign on reversing it and rejoining. People will be desperate for an out from the rolling disaster by then.
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# ? Nov 30, 2018 19:13 |
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https://twitter.com/DailyMirror/status/1068573123367202816 Good news, finally. Shocked to hear that the racist bully has family that live abroad. Never could have seen it coming.
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Jose posted:Ian Austin has written an article in the guardian saying labour should vote for mays deal :wall: What, no emote? Savages.
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# ? Nov 30, 2018 19:44 |
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Ian Austin blocked me for calling him Little Shite Dudley
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WhatEvil posted:Well we live in a representative democracy so technically anything that parliament decides on unless it's in direct contradiction of a manifesto promise (which people have implicitly voted for) is democratic? Ultimately though it's all shite because the elected representatives should in theory be representing the "will of the people" (I hate that phrase now) but the will of the people is wrong often - e.g. if we had a referendum on capital punishment or nuclear power or any number of other things the public would probably vote for The Bad Thing™ and that's why we elect MPs because in theory we are trusting them to decide poo poo like this, even if it doesn't match necessary with the populist viewpoint. I sort of hope parliament does just go "gently caress it" and cancels the whole thing. They won't, and if they did it would probably go very very poorly for a lot of people with an unpatriotic amount of consonants of their name (although still less so than if we leave and they then get blamed that the Empire doesn't magically reconstitute itself), but in a perfect world they'd actually do their jobs - Parliament is sovereign in the UK, and that's the end of it. Referenda have no part in our constitution and leaving is self-evidently national suicide. At the very least they need to get an actual vote passed saying "gently caress no deal, if we can't settle on anything we stay in" and work from there.
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Gort posted:How does that square with his previous comments to the tune of, "We'll give you extra negotiating time if there's a change in government"? The EUs primary concern is with the withdrawal agreement (the future relationship statement is for the future after all) and the primary complaint with that is the backstop agreement which the EU unsprisingly insists is the best possible offer they are willing to give on the matter. The two remained tangled together because they will be voted on together but as far as the EU is concerned the terms of the actual divorce and transition which necessarily excludss the post-transition relationship is fully squared away to their satisfaction and shade being thrown at the terms of the backstop will be given extremely short shrift
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Junior G-man posted:Nah. It's extremely typical EU behaviour. You will find that there's always a fudge to be made if people want it and you're important enough. The UK isn't Greece so you'll get one. Like, if Labour says 'actually we want to stay 100% in the single market', I can see that happening. But what does Labour want that May's deal doesn't get them? They won't even answer the phone to "pay less and no backstop" imo
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/DailyMirror/status/1068573123367202816
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https://twitter.com/dave48533915/status/1068580963356209152 while I don't condone hounding a child until he's fearful of his life, no matter how much of a hateful racist poo poo he is, maybe he might learn that his actions have consequences from all this. (lol of course he won't, and all of this is fuel for the 'why do the forriners get special treatment' fire)
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It'd be brilliant if racists got hounded by hundreds of men, they might not be racist for a bit
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