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Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?
Wait carriers rat with drones?

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FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



Ynglaur posted:

Wait carriers rat with drones?

They used to

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Ynglaur posted:

Wait carriers rat with drones?

Its rude to call Fighters "Drones". You can clearly see a little human pilot in there :colbert:

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


yeah I meant fighters


which are drones.













also sandwiches

Ad by Khad
Jul 25, 2007

Human Garbage
Watch me try to laugh this title off like the dickbag I am.

I also hang out with racists.

Rutibex posted:

Sorry, I assumed anyone playing this game would be wealthy enough to be able to start subbing with PLEX after 5 months. It is a bad deal if you are bad at EVE.

lmao yes you're "bad at eve" if you don't station trade like gevlon freaking goblin just to save an irl pittance

just because you can sub with plex doesnt mean you should

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.
Paying with plex takes several hours per month per account. An hour or two of irl pay is a lot more time efficient.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Ad by Khad posted:

lmao yes you're "bad at eve" if you don't station trade like gevlon freaking goblin just to save an irl pittance

just because you can sub with plex doesnt mean you should

I think the trading is the fun part honestly, I enjoy figuring out how to make the numbers go up. It would be cheating to buy isk for real money. What would even be the point? If I wanted to do that I could just play X3 and put in a money cheat code for free. If you're spending real money to play EVE you are doing it wrong.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
Or, you know, you have disposable income and like being able to put everything you make towards something instead of working on a debit. Thanks to the GMG nonsense I've got all my accounts staggered so they'll all cycle, so it'll be $14.95/month to keep three accounts in Omega. One on, two off - for three months, at least.

I don't have to do anything with Kayl until mid-April.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

BIG HEADLINE posted:

Or, you know, you have disposable income
:negative:
I graduate from grad school this month. I have a house mortgages worth of debt, but no house..... Spending real money on space games in not a wise move for me right now!

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



It’s almost as if everyone values their time differently

Personally I pay with irl money because I make a month sub in a very short amount of time so grinding for 5 hours a month to pay my plex costs doesn’t make sense for me

Plus my play time is currently super limited due to a 7 week old baby so I’d rather shoot dudes and do dumb stuff


THAT BEING SAID finding a passive or semi passive wealth generator like blazing or PI or manufacturing is something I’m working towards (so I can finance more accounts :mrgw: )

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.
Wtf is blazing? Crabbing? Terms I don't know.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

ilkhan posted:

Wtf is blazing? Crabbing? Terms I don't know.

Yeah, I'd like to know what blazing is too.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

Rutibex posted:

Yeah, I'd like to know what blazing is too.

Blaze a joint son.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
Also turn and 8th into and ounce and make it bounce.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



ilkhan posted:

Wtf is blazing? Crabbing? Terms I don't know.

Blazing is similar to blitzing L5’s except with the new burner missions

Krabbing comes from Putin saying he slaved away at something (the word for slaving sounds like crab) and is the new way of saying “jewing” without sounding like an antisemite

Micromancer
Apr 17, 2002

He went out to the store
and when he got back
Roll-marks said .22 Short, jack.
If anything I could say that
this gun was rare
Its covered it sweat,
toilet water, and hair

Kosani posted:

It seems like the new players experience is sort of on rails with the missions, is that the best way to make isk as a noob?

The best way to make isk as a new player is to follow behind someone in a Noctis that is super ratting. It's a quick train, and you should average around 100m an hour. I know of a guy in KF that fields three supers simultaneously, generating 20+ sites for salvage an hour. I've seen teams of new players try and keep up and they just can't.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Micromancer posted:

I know of a guy in KF that fields three supers simultaneously

:psyduck:
How?! Keeping track of 15 fighter groups all orbiting at the same time sounds like a nightmare.

Micromancer
Apr 17, 2002

He went out to the store
and when he got back
Roll-marks said .22 Short, jack.
If anything I could say that
this gun was rare
Its covered it sweat,
toilet water, and hair
I have no idea. The concentration and motor skills needed would be way beyond anything I can do, and I say this as a 10 account covetor miner.

Edit: Like I've heard him give people on comms instructions to tell other people that were in the clean up crew something because he can't type messages while it's happening.

Micromancer fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Dec 2, 2018

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

Well, shoot! We ain't come this far just to dump this thing in the drink. What's the nearest target opportunity?

Rutibex posted:

I think the trading is the fun part honestly, I enjoy figuring out how to make the numbers go up. It would be cheating to buy isk for real money. What would even be the point? If I wanted to do that I could just play X3 and put in a money cheat code for free. If you're spending real money to play EVE you are doing it wrong.

What if your hourly rate far exceeds the amount of isk you could generate in an hour?

I've always looked at ISK acquisition as a means to engage in the gameplay I enjoy, and not the other way around.

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!
You guys need to calculate how much isk you make using the fun per hour ratio or it's not valid

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Xolve posted:

What if your hourly rate far exceeds the amount of isk you could generate in an hour?

I've always looked at ISK acquisition as a means to engage in the gameplay I enjoy, and not the other way around.

My hourly rate is positive, because the gameplay I enjoy is making more ISK in any way possible. I like to play around with and learn about other aspects of the game because it helps me know what people are buying, but in the end it's all about ISK! :capitalism:

I like it so much have been trying my hand at real world pattern day trading. There are lots of services out there that let you trade stocks and commodities with fake money (to see if you would do well). Its kind of similar to EVE trading, except the market volume tends to be a lot higher. Also stuff can crash in value, where EVE commodities tend to be a lot safer with a price ceiling.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



Rutibex posted:

:psyduck:
How?! Keeping track of 15 fighter groups all orbiting at the same time sounds like a nightmare.

Managing 3 titans wouldnt be that hard but yeah

unless he just has all the fighters orbit the gate and has his shortcuts down to a science i guess

Micromancer posted:

I have no idea. The concentration and motor skills needed would be way beyond anything I can do, and I say this as a 10 account covetor miner.

Edit: Like I've heard him give people on comms instructions to tell other people that were in the clean up crew something because he can't type messages while it's happening.

Are you the famous Silverminer???

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.
Any newbies able/desiring a wyvern but can't afford to buy it? Send me a message.

ilkhan fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Dec 3, 2018

4th Horseman
Jun 3, 2011
Eat poo poo CO2

https://soundcloud.com/choridon/co2-disbands

Rejected by current-day PL and PH and not having the guts to swallow your pride to keep your guys together.

4th Horseman fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Dec 3, 2018

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




is PL dead yet

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

ilkhan posted:

Any newbies able/desiring a wyvern but can't afford to buy it? Send me a message.

Why would a newbie want a Wyvern? Don't do that to poor newbies.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.

Rutibex posted:

Why would a newbie want a Wyvern? Don't do that to poor newbies.
It went to a returning goon.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


4th Horseman posted:

Eat poo poo CO2

https://soundcloud.com/choridon/co2-disbands

Rejected by current-day PL and PH and not having the guts to swallow your pride to keep your guys together.

Is there a transcript? I can't understand serbian mumble very well.

Cobbsprite
May 6, 2012

Threatening stuffed animals for fun and profit.
Recovering my years-old EvE account so I can go mine with goons. God, space is so loving pretty.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Hexel posted:

is PL dead yet

you asking medically or spiritually?



4th Horseman posted:

Eat poo poo CO2

"Stay down Luke!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trDsXlDJIbM

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

This honestly encapsulates EVE war logic better: https://youtu.be/trpZOYY3YGM

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

BIG HEADLINE posted:

This honestly encapsulates EVE war logic better: https://youtu.be/trpZOYY3YGM

gently caress! that's the scene I was thinking of in my head but couldn't remember the source. of course KITH, shame on me.


also the "salt in your eyes" sketch is a pretty accurate summary of GSF diplomacy tactics.

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

Goonswarm would be nothing without the treachery of BoB, its high time they got a taste of their own medicine. Face it you've grown too powerful, either your leaders realize that or this game is toast.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


They won the casino war. How the gently caress are people still on about teh evil goonies controlling the whole game when they've proven they can beat us. They just have to not be total shitlor...oh, that's why.

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

CainFortea posted:

They won the casino war. How the gently caress are people still on about teh evil goonies controlling the whole game when they've proven they can beat us. They just have to not be total shitlor...oh, that's why.

Can they actually still beat the coalition tho? I'm pretty sure we have a lot more supers now than we did then. The people who don't have a super are either too new, or like me, too lazy to get one.

Question for Asher and other FC's. If everyone could fly and owned a super, would you guys still bother pinging for subcaps?

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Dalael posted:

Can they actually still beat the coalition tho? I'm pretty sure we have a lot more supers now than we did then. The people who don't have a super are either too new, or like me, too lazy to get one.

Question for Asher and other FC's. If everyone could fly and owned a super, would you guys still bother pinging for subcaps?

They've proven they can. They just have to actually play the meta and not back stab eachother long enough and they can drive us out. Instead of just whining about the game changing out from under them and taking out their frustration on eachother.

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

CainFortea posted:

They've proven they can. They just have to actually play the meta and not back stab eachother long enough and they can drive us out. Instead of just whining about the game changing out from under them and taking out their frustration on eachother.

They proved that they can when someone gives them unlimited amount of money to pile on us. But that was 2 years ago, before Keepstars and before Delve outmined the rest of EVE combined. Also, no one's giving them money anymore.

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

I mean, there was that keepstar in Vale of the Silent that got killed by INITdot (and us but they were clearly the stars of the show) with just subcaps, despite a massive supercap ball fielded by hostiles.

The funny thing about that was the tactic that INITdot used was something NCdot had figured out how to counter back in, like, 2017, but they couldn't swing it this time for some reason.

Landsknecht
Oct 27, 2009
I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

I mean, there was that keepstar in Vale of the Silent that got killed by INITdot (and us but they were clearly the stars of the show) with just subcaps, despite a massive supercap ball fielded by hostiles.

The funny thing about that was the tactic that INITdot used was something NCdot had figured out how to counter back in, like, 2017, but they couldn't swing it this time for some reason.

NCdot isn't set up well for EVE2k2x

for the past decade conflict has been between skill and size alliances

skill used player skill/high xp eveguys to defeat size
size used size to defeat skill

but with injectors, old player loss, rorqs, and ECs size now beats skill, especially since there is established FC talent in most major guilds

if skill groups could've retained players they would be on top, but they're having issues with this, so it's not going great for them, and it will only go downhill

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Boatswain
May 29, 2012
How much "skill" – in terms of player knowledge or ability – is there to flying say a Ferox or Megathron in a fleet?

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