cheetah7071 posted:

Chrono Trigger hot take: Toriyama's art is ugly and every game he does the portrait work for looks worse by his inclusion

cheetah7071 posted:

are Japanese-style western-made RPGs like Undertale JRPGs?

exquisite tea posted:

Chrono Trigger's soundtrack is what got me into music theory.

Cowcaster posted:

everyone likes to burst through walls and out of cupboards and through the floor to point out exceptions and edge cases and whatever whenever you try and classify these things but my opinion is that a JRPG is the opposite of a WRPG (a.k.a. a CRPG) and my metrics for each are as follows

Relax Or DIE posted:

Here's a question for y'all - what's the closest you've been to 100%/platinum in a game before giving up?

For me, it was Dark Souls 2. All I had left was two or three achievements, both for having all spells of a specific type, and I was only missing one spell each. All of then required either a ton of PvP or playing deep into new game++, and with Bloodborne about to release I ended up bailing. I liked PvP in DS2 so I wouldn't have minded, but I believe one of the spells required you to get X number of points in a dueling arena, which you could lose if you lost, and I'm way not into big grinds that you can lose progress on.

Cowcaster posted:

everyone likes to burst through walls and out of cupboards and through the floor to point out exceptions and edge cases and whatever whenever you try and classify these things but my opinion is that a JRPG is the opposite of a WRPG (a.k.a. a CRPG) and my metrics for each are as follows:

A JRPG:
-Pre-created characters whose actions, mechanical development, and personalities are largely determined entirely by the game and not the player
-Pre-scripted plot with little to no agency on the player's part to change its direction or ending
-If turn based, typically has menu based combat

A WRPG:
-Blank slate main character, or even entire parties, whose actions, mechanical development, and personalities (or lack thereof) are largely determined entirely by the player (dialogue trees ahoy)
-Although typically has one major quest whose ending is largely the same for everyone, where and how the player gets there and what they do along the way is open-ended
-If turn based, typically has tile or isometric based combat

notably, the witcher games and the mass effect series have a lot more jrpg in their blood than what i'd consider a pure crpg

corn in the bible posted:

I said come in! posted:

Red Dead Redemption 2 has the best fishing because you can use dynamite to fish. Which officially makes it a JRPG.

Edmond Dantes posted:

Chrono Trigger remains the best jrpg ever made.

Archer666 posted:

Did anyone give ATOM RPG a try? Russians took Fallout 1 and 2 mechanics, dumped it in a new engine and then created an entirely new game. Instead of it being 60's American wasteland, it's 80's Soviet Union wasteland so you have people listening to state sponsored propaganda, old military generals running towns and you punching huge spiders so you can collect mushrooms for a local brewery for vodka.

frajaq posted:

cheetah7071 posted:

Chrono Trigger hot take: Toriyama's art is ugly and every game he does the portrait work for looks worse by his inclusion

corn in the bible posted:

SaGa is my favorite WRPG series

MMF Freeway posted:

Here's what I know about it

Relax Or DIE posted:

I never got behind the strict geographical interpretation of this stuff

MMF Freeway posted:

Here's what I know about it

Cowcaster posted:

the only thing i know about atom is there's a couple of npc portraits that are jay and jack from red letter media

MMF Freeway posted:

Here's what I know about it

Looper posted:

it's good but not even in the top 3 for the snes

Edmond Dantes posted:

Chrono Trigger remains the best jrpg ever made.

Edmond Dantes posted:

Chrono Trigger remains the best jrpg ever made.

cheetah7071 posted:

I feel like the only way your favorite RPG is on the SNES is if you grew up with it and have nostalgia goggles on

Now, let me tell you about how mario 64 is the greatest 3d platformer ever made

Motto posted:

Why is it always snes games that people get weird about

chumbler posted:

Can't be good if it can be beaten in half an A press.

Cowcaster posted:

A JRPG:
-Pre-scripted plot with little to no agency on the player's part to change its direction or ending
-If turn based, typically has menu based combat

A WRPG:
-Blank slate main character, or even entire parties, whose actions, mechanical development, and personalities (or lack thereof) are largely determined entirely by the player (dialogue trees ahoy)
-Although typically has one major quest whose ending is largely the same for everyone, where and how the player gets there and what they do along the way is open-ended

notably, the witcher games and the mass effect series have a lot more jrpg in their blood than what i'd consider a pure crpg

cheetah7071 posted:

I feel like the only way your favorite RPG is on the SNES is if you grew up with it and have nostalgia goggles on

Now, let me tell you about how mario 64 is the greatest 3d platformer ever made