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EoRaptor posted:So Wagner groomed her when she was young and now she suffers some sort of Stockholm syndrome variant and stays with him. Perfect for a newspaper cartoon... Helsinki Syndrome
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Stock-ham syndrome? No, that's terrible.
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Cheer Up Boss Dharma I don't think I need to translate that since it's obviously the panel reading order.
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Here's the original design: Surgeon's Tales   It's a bit weird that neither comic nor the book explains why the gate is open (at least for now, I haven't read more than few chapters ahead), but we got a nice battle scene so I won't complain. Nancy  Dustin 
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Maxwell Lord posted:Generally speaking I think "is what we're seeing a fetish for the author" is not really a useful critical apparatus, because it's hard to build a convincing case for the negative, and my reaction to the positive is generally "so what", but I think there's a quality to Holbrook's stuff that grew out of the more obsessive bits of furry fandom, both sexual and nonsexual- the part that really is concerned about *animal* has *trait* even though you're already anthropomorphizing them. It's not consistent at all but it tries to be, and the trying leads things to get even more gnarled and confused. You're correct in both things here. It's hard to prove that some of that stuff isn't fetishistic in nature, though I feel like a lot of this stuff occurring with characters regardless of gender and situations handled different with "good guy" characters compared to "bad guy" ones-- and the lack of any frequency puts a lot of it squarely in the Not Intended to be Fetishistic column. And you're not wrong, there is a "so what" response if the pregnancy thing is a fetish which is a totally decent reaction and maybe I am being a bit of a prude. Especially since if you're not following all three of Holbrook's strips it's something you may not even notice and it definitely feels less in-your-face than say Jumbo's fantasies over in Rose is Rose or just Gilchrist drawing As for being obsessive about continuity details, I think that's one of the reasons why there's appeal in Kevin & Kell, or superhero comics, or certain long running comics like One Piece or Sluggy Freelance. And hopefully that's a wide enough set of examples that goes to show it's not just something that's exclusive to the furry fandom. The *animal* has *trait* thing you're right though is one of those things that's kind of just there in K&K for when it's appropriate to the joke of the strip or not. As we can see there's not a lot of thought that goes into the world building and I don't think there's a lot of use in trying to make sense of it. Like sure the flies dying on the windshield all being sapient beings is horrifying if you're focusing on the big bunny man just committed vehicular manslaughter and then made an awkward old-man computer joke about it, but it's just be a week joke with cartoon animals and being horrified at the implications to me just reads as an exercise in really weird fanfiction. And I don't intend that to sound like I dislike when people post about things like why certain things don't really "work" in terms of like, actual diets of the real life animals or how trying to group all animals into predators and prey super doesn't work. But condemning Holbrook for the fanfiction hellscape that seems to horrify some posters feels really disingenuous to me.
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Pastry of the Year posted:Arlo and Janis Classic (July 12, 1997) I don't know how old their son's supposed to be exactly, but you really don't. Puberty can make the body produce horrendous smells.
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 if intelligent life is so hip and with it he should be able to draw an actual possible way to hold a smart phone
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snack eater posted:
Nothing about Intelligent Life leads me to believe the author is hip and with it.
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Some Guy TT posted:Cheer Up Boss Dharma Nth-ing the thanks for posting these. I sometimes find the strip's humor a little mean-spirited, but the art is interesting and when it hits, it hits. Sometime, you should mix up the panels just to mess with us, though.
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I just want to cross post this as relevant to thread interests.
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Samovar posted:Thanks Ghostlight! I wouldn't have found that myself - that's really cool! Also, how the hell did American football become the national pastime? Or baseball? A lot of these sports seems to involve... not much happening? In the case of football there's actually a lot going on between plays, you just have to really like the sport to find things like formations and pre-snap movement interesting.
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Green Intern posted:That Tina’s Groove made my skin crawl. He looks a little like the gross dude from that Bizarre from the other day, no?
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howe_sam posted:In the case of football there's actually a lot going on between plays, you just have to really like the sport to find things like formations and pre-snap movement interesting. Also, most people experience pro football on TV, where you can fill the time between plays with replay and analysis of what went right or wrong on the last play. Or, of course, commercials.
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davidspackage posted:It's so jarring how the characters are just railroading Kadia into things, it'll be disappointing if she doesn't at some point go "back the gently caress off" after the trauma settles in, but I think it's just going to continue into a reunion with her mother, and then her being out of the comic. Hope to be surprised. That would require the Walkers to ever be wrong about something. The Punisher is more moral and just than the Phantoms can ever claim to be.
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Medenmath posted:Prince Valiant Val: the sovereign who doesn’t give a poo poo about anything except stabbing and screwing
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The Dinette Set makes a real sacrifice. Working Daze is just running down the clock on this non-joke.  Super-Fun-Pak Comix is prepared for the working world. 
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Manuel Calavera posted:
This is the strongest evidence to date that Dilbert guy is a stupid rear end in a top hat who merely thinks that he is smart at science and stuff.
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FrumpleOrz posted:Hagar The Horrible A suit and tie. The jacket seems to be missing any sort of collar or lapels which is also odd, but not entirely out of place for this comic. I guess this isn't too different from Hagar seeing a psychiatrist in an earlier strip. It doesn't do it very often, but when this strip drops it's premise it's always really weird.
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Is there a single long-running gag-a-day strip in a historical setting that doesn't end up full of anachronisms?
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Mmm, I feel like the other big contemporary examples, B.C. and Wizard of Id are just full on anachronisms constantly that it isn't as jarring as Hagar, which isn't exactly the height of historical accuracy, but it at least tends to not have guys in modern suits just show up.
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CommonShore posted:This is the strongest evidence to date that Dilbert guy is a stupid rear end in a top hat who merely thinks that he is smart at science and stuff. Ye, just matching humanmade emissions would leave you with ~10-20 Gigatons of wood/cellulose construction material a year, ignoring any energy needed for said process to actually happen. For reference, the world production of concrete is like 4.5ish gigatons a year. You could also replace all wood for the use as fuel, paper, construction, etc. With just a small fraction of it. Running out of CO2 is quite possibly the least realistic of all the issues you'd face in that scenario. SubNat fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Feb 3, 2019 |
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FrumpleOrz posted:Mother Goose & Grimm He used it to cut down the trees that made Theseus' ship.
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Steve Kelley ghostwriting Garfield these days I see
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EasyEW posted:Thimble Theater (August 29, 1935)  That's hilarious!F Minus  Macanudo  Mark Trail  I would think creatures that are their prey would get bit more than humans. Mary Worth  davidspackage posted:It's so jarring how the characters are just railroading Kadia into things, it'll be disappointing if she doesn't at some point go "back the gently caress off" after the trauma settles in, but I think it's just going to continue into a reunion with her mother, and then her being out of the comic. Hope to be surprised. I do agree that all this should catch up to her though, emotionally, and she will probably resent these people, for a while at least. We'll see what happens Monday, but for today there's Sunday The Phantom  Pooch Cafe  Rex Morgan MD  Andertoons  Flash Gordon February 1962    
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Having read the entirety of the last thread and started keeping up with this one, I've been inspired to contribute something of my own... I went online and tracked down one of the earliest comic book collections I could remember growing up. With no regrets, here is One Step Closer To Home:  The back of the collection posted:
I remember really enjoying these as a kid, so I'm going to read it as I post it and see if the magic still holds from when I was 8. I'm going to try posting a few pages at a time over my lunch breaks at work, I work shift so you won't be subjected to this every day! I'll have to work on a better way of capturing the panels, but the way this book puts them together is either a single Sunday or two dailies per page. Hopefully they don't come out too blurry. I know there's mixed feelings about this comic in the thread from when it was posted before, but the "on the verge of a panic attack" look the characters have when they are excited and the dumpy drawings of people add to the charm for me! Some to start:    What do you guys think, should I start posting all 128 pages? Luxrage fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Feb 3, 2019 |
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Calaveron posted:In case you ever, ever want to give Dustin man the benefit of the doubt or any credit for anything ever *begins to scream, doesn't stop*
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SubNat posted:Running out of CO2 is quite possibly the least realistic of all the issues you'd face in that scenario.
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StrixNebulosa posted:*begins to scream, doesn't stop* I got ya, fam. https://twitter.com/infinite_scream
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Sally Forth: Meanwhile, back at the ruins of the patio... Peanuts (February 6, 1972)  Funky Winkerbean  Crankshaft  Life (With Skippy)  (April 19, 1923, not approved by the ASPCA)  (proto-Skippy from March 16, 1923)
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Luxrage posted:Close to Home Don't ask permission. If you do, at least half of the cranks in this thread will tell you no. Including me because I find the art in this thing horrifying, especially in light of what it looks like today:  The comic doesn't break any rules, so and all us jerks can just bitch about it until we die.
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I'll start doing two or three pages per post if I can find a good way to get clean pics of the pages. I'm doing this on lunch break at my job so I am trying to make the best with what I have available. I could use our office supplies and straight up take the paper cutter guillotine to the book to get the pages all separated which would both get cleaner pictures and give the thread the benefit of some Closer to Home media being destroyed. I'll see what I can do! The initial post was more of a warning that I'll be bringing some quality early Closer to Home to the thread, I was pretty much expecting the reaction to be:  Although this is more like whenever 9CL is brought up! Luxrage fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Feb 3, 2019 |
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Luxrage posted:I'll start doing two or three pages per post if I can find a good way to get clean pics of the pages. I'm doing this on lunch break at my job so I am trying to make the best with what I have available. I could use our office supplies and straight up take the paper cutter guillotine to the book to get the pages all separated which would both get cleaner pictures and give the thread the benefit of some Closer to Home media being destroyed. I'll see what I can do! You definitely should just post because yeah, that's how this thread should work, but I honestly might have to put you on my ignore list because the art in Close to Home triggers a horrible visceral gut reaction in me. I feel physically ill looking at it. Everything about it is like the visual equivalent of nails on chalkboard for me. So, yeah, definitely make us suffer in a hell of our own creation. Everyone else does! BCN  Phoebe  Wallace  Curtis  Jamal   
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