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ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Yeah, I really like Baldesion. It's genuinely more fun than the raids.

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x1o
Aug 5, 2005

My focus is UNPARALLELED!
Only complaint about Hydratos is no one else is helping spawn the NM fates, instead just camping sprite island and the bunny fate. Geralt hungers for crystals and I'm only one giraffe.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

TheHeadSage posted:

Only complaint about Hydratos is no one else is helping spawn the NM fates, instead just camping sprite island and the bunny fate. Geralt hungers for crystals and I'm only one giraffe.

At least UFO spawns constantly. I'm sure half of my crystals are from that NM alone

Rainuwastaken
Oct 30, 2012

Another blue ribbon for Hecarim.

Emalde posted:

Mill yourself through the early pulls to get Eureka Fragments for some Elemental+2 armor (sans chest or chest+head if you're a caster) and you'll be in perfectly fine shape.

Reassuring to hear. Why not those two pieces for caster? I figured they all gave lots of elemental points.

Emalde
May 3, 2007

Just a cage of bones, there's nothing inside.

Rainuwastaken posted:

Reassuring to hear. Why not those two pieces for caster? I figured they all gave lots of elemental points.

You have the odd chance of getting the trade tokens from every chest in BA (just that it's higher from Raiden/AV and guaranteed from Ozma). They're for an i300 piece that is better than the shared Elemental+2 slot piece for Eureka specifically. Physical DPS/Tanks only have a chest piece to trade for (2 cryptic seals), Magic DPS/Healers have a hooded cowl which is head+chest (3 damascene cloth).

If you somehow get far enough regularly enough to have enough Eureka fragments to upgrade everything else that aren't those (including your weapon) and still don't have tokens then knock yourself out, but in general you can expect to see your Kirin/Vermillion equipment piece before you have a full set of Elemental+2.

Alder
Sep 24, 2013


i love ozma but i hate eureka.

x1o
Aug 5, 2005

My focus is UNPARALLELED!

ImpAtom posted:

At least UFO spawns constantly. I'm sure half of my crystals are from that NM alone

Something to look forward to once I finally hit 60.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Is Ozma only possible to get once, or will it hit the MB?

Nipponophile
Apr 8, 2009
It's an achievement reward, so not tradable.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Nipponophile posted:

It's an achievement reward, so not tradable.
drat. Farewell forever, Ozma.

CascadeBeta
Feb 14, 2009

by Cyrano4747


Does anyone know why this is grayed out for me? I leveled to 50 as Bard and didn't realize there was an option to see only my debuffs, but I can't seem to toggle it. I'm probably missing something obvious.

MadFriarAvelyn
Sep 25, 2007

Day two in Eureka Pagos: the exp buff is nice, but this is still awful. Hit level 29, and the chokepoint to the north part of the zone is still the worst idea ever.

Can confirm PhD is required to finish Pagos. Blame Fenra. :shepicide:

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters

MadFriarAvelyn posted:

Day two in Eureka Pagos: the exp buff is nice, but this is still awful. Hit level 29, and the chokepoint to the north part of the zone is still the worst idea ever.

Can confirm PhD is required to finish Pagos. Blame Fenra. :shepicide:

Why are you using the canyon chokepoint for anything at level 29, you qualify for all the aethyrites. The only reason to go near that area is for King Igloo, and you just run from Geothermal for that.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Is it possible to own more than one apartment, or just one estate and one apartment?

MadFriarAvelyn
Sep 25, 2007

Captain Oblivious posted:

Why are you using the canyon chokepoint for anything at level 29, you qualify for all the aethyrites. The only reason to go near that area is for King Igloo, and you just run from Geothermal for that.

Because I'm trying to do Eureka with a friend who isn't past that chokepoint yet.

[Edit] To clarify I did a bit of leveling when Pagos was current/a bit of challenge log recently to try and get past 25, which would get me access to all of the aetheryte there. However, not everyone coming into Pagos does that and the experience for players new to the zone is awful, especially with all of the NMs the train heads to which require a drop from the northern part of the zone. The single chokepoint being gated, even behind level 25, is still horrible, despite your Stockholm syndrome.

MadFriarAvelyn fucked around with this message at 06:17 on Feb 18, 2019

Failboattootoot
Feb 6, 2011

Enough of this nonsense. You are an important mayor and this absurd contraption has wasted enough of your time.

FactsAreUseless posted:

Is it possible to own more than one apartment, or just one estate and one apartment?

You can own a fc room, an apartment, and a private home.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Failboattootoot posted:

You can own a fc room, an apartment, and a private home.
Okay, and if you're the head of an FC that estate doesn't replace your private estate?

An Actual Princess
Dec 23, 2006

FactsAreUseless posted:

Okay, and if you're the head of an FC that estate doesn't replace your private estate?

if you're the head of an fc you can have an fc house, room, apartment, and private house

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Overwatch Porn posted:

if you're the head of an fc you can have an fc house, room, apartment, and private house
Sweet, good reason to get all my crafters and gatherers to 70 then.

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

I keep on getting sucked into the loop of leveling my gatherers so they can supply my crafters so they can level and gear up my gatherers.

Neurotic Roleplay
May 20, 2005

been playing this for two weeks thanks to the twitch prime trial

it's good

The Grimace
Sep 18, 2005

Are you a BigMac of imbeciles!?
12 more frosted protean crystals until I'm done with Pagos... again. Had I remembered how bad the light grind was with this poo poo, I'd have chosen against doing this once more. It's something to do, but the RNG nature of Light is terrible.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

I have a very specific mechanical question: at which distance does it become faster to ride your chocobo, despite the summoning time, than run somewhere? What about to sprint?

edit: When will I ever use Deep Vigor? On mining nodes that give five chances, you can only get Chain #4 on the last hit. Chain #1 doesn't start until you get two in a row.

AMISH FRIED PIES
Mar 6, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
you'll use Deep Vigor mostly during Leves if i remember right

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

FactsAreUseless posted:

I have a very specific mechanical question: at which distance does it become faster to ride your chocobo, despite the summoning time, than run somewhere? What about to sprint?

It depends on a lot of things but generally unless it's right next door it's probably faster to mount, especially if you have tier 2 or 3 mount speed

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

FactsAreUseless posted:

I have a very specific mechanical question: at which distance does it become faster to ride your chocobo, despite the summoning time, than run somewhere? What about to sprint?

edit: When will I ever use Deep Vigor? On mining nodes that give five chances, you can only get Chain #4 on the last hit. Chain #1 doesn't start until you get two in a row.

So far, leves and the level 60 quest mats that come from unspoiled nodes. +2 gathering attempts also pop up in later levels occasionally

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

MadFriarAvelyn posted:

Because I'm trying to do Eureka with a friend who isn't past that chokepoint yet.

[Edit] To clarify I did a bit of leveling when Pagos was current/a bit of challenge log recently to try and get past 25, which would get me access to all of the aetheryte there. However, not everyone coming into Pagos does that and the experience for players new to the zone is awful, especially with all of the NMs the train heads to which require a drop from the northern part of the zone. The single chokepoint being gated, even behind level 25, is still horrible, despite your Stockholm syndrome.

Yeah, the chokepoints suck. If you want help getting the aetherytes, /tell Coco Crisp in game and I'll prettymuch drop whatever I'm doing to help people get them.

We gotta stick together in the face of Eureka's horrible design!

jalapeno_dude
Apr 10, 2015

Control Volume posted:

I keep on getting sucked into the loop of leveling my gatherers so they can supply my crafters so they can level and gear up my gatherers.

This is the correct way to do it. When you hear people complaining about how leveling gatherers sucks it's because they're trying to do it all at once instead of actually using them to get crafting mats and leveling up in the process.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

ImpAtom posted:

It depends on a lot of things but generally unless it's right next door it's probably faster to mount, especially if you have tier 2 or 3 mount speed
I can't imagine it can be more than like 10 yalms tops, I was just curious if anyone had calculated it.

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

FactsAreUseless posted:

I can't imagine it can be more than like 10 yalms tops, I was just curious if anyone had calculated it.

I mean, we could set up a test in one of the zones. Someone running normally. Someone using sprint. someone with a mount at normal speed. someone with mount at 1*. someone with mount at 2*
then have a footrace and see how long it takes people to overtake each other.

Xerophyte
Mar 17, 2008

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FactsAreUseless posted:

I can't imagine it can be more than like 10 yalms tops, I was just curious if anyone had calculated it.

It's hard to give distances since I don't think the game ever specifies any exact speeds. I think the relative numbers are 130% of runspeed for sprint, 200% for base mounts and 250% for 2-star. If someone knows better then please correct me.

Anyhow, with that in mind you can at least say that if it takes more than twice as long to run somewhere than it does to summon a mount then you should've summoned a mount. Mounts take a second to summon, so very roughly speaking you should mount if it takes longer than 2 seconds to run there. There's a big caveat here in that it takes a second or two extra for the mount buff to actually apply after you summon and before then you run at normal speed, and the exact delay is very dependent on your latency and how good you are at slidecasting your mount.

Ultimately the limiting factor is more going to be if you can be arsed to press the mount button and wait for the bar to fill for a 5 second run than anything else.

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.

Xerophyte posted:

Ultimately the limiting factor is more going to be if you can be arsed to press the mount button and wait for the bar to fill for a 5 second run than anything else.

That's the real measure. If getting to where you want to go is going to take you longer than a single sprint, a mount is going to get you there faster. Period.

Fat and Useless
Sep 3, 2011

Not Thin and Useful

Hoary Boulder, Monday 3 am, Eureka Hydatos








TLDR: Its Eureka chat but with a guy way too mad at your old pal Hoary Boulder.

jalapeno_dude posted:

This is the correct way to do it. When you hear people complaining about how leveling gatherers sucks it's because they're trying to do it all at once instead of actually using them to get crafting mats and leveling up in the process.

I know there were guides at least up to heavensward that routed the best way to grind level gathering for later use with multiple crafting classes, those GC exp books are godly as well and cut time to grind level a bunch. Extra grinded mats can be sold to other broke brains leveling crafting for sometimes stupid prices, used for crafting achievements , or used to make junk to level desynth.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

When, if ever, should I be wearing DoW/DoM gear as a gatherer? I don't have enough strength to get the +1 gathering attempt at a higher-level node, should I be sacrificing some gathering for main stats, or am I just too low-level?

TheShadowAvatar
Nov 25, 2004

Ain't Nothing But A Family Thing

FactsAreUseless posted:

When, if ever, should I be wearing DoW/DoM gear as a gatherer? I don't have enough strength to get the +1 gathering attempt at a higher-level node, should I be sacrificing some gathering for main stats, or am I just too low-level?

You're just too low level. I haven't ever used non-gathering gear while gathering. Eventually past AAR the bonuses I THINK go straight to your perception and gathering only. No strength or int or some other whacky stuff.

Fat and Useless
Sep 3, 2011

Not Thin and Useful

FactsAreUseless posted:

When, if ever, should I be wearing DoW/DoM gear as a gatherer? I don't have enough strength to get the +1 gathering attempt at a higher-level node, should I be sacrificing some gathering for main stats, or am I just too low-level?

Actual gathering stats start to matter around 30-50+(at that point you simply can't wear DoW/M stuff anymore because "all classes" gear stops existing), the extra GP from accessories is always useful though. A set of new HQ gear at the start of each expansion lasts a good while if grinding levels and there are lots of low level things to just grind on with that gear that are used by the hundreds for crafting leve turn ins like beech wood. I don't mess with the collectibles much so I don't know how on the dot gear needs to be for that method but I assume you want to keep up in gear level with what you are trying to collect.

If it feels like its time for new gear, it probably is. Accessories can be pricey and give very small increases to GP so go slower on replacing those than on the left side. Don't worry about materia until much later.

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters

MadFriarAvelyn posted:

Because I'm trying to do Eureka with a friend who isn't past that chokepoint yet.

[Edit] To clarify I did a bit of leveling when Pagos was current/a bit of challenge log recently to try and get past 25, which would get me access to all of the aetheryte there. However, not everyone coming into Pagos does that and the experience for players new to the zone is awful, especially with all of the NMs the train heads to which require a drop from the northern part of the zone. The single chokepoint being gated, even behind level 25, is still horrible, despite your Stockholm syndrome.

You can cool the persecution complex my dude. I literally just ferried a lowbie friend through there the other night, I’m aware the central canyon is a hell scape, you just gave no indication in the original post why it was still relevant to you so I was genuinely uncertain if you knew the aethyrite requirements had been lowered.

I’ve run into more than one person killing themselves for no reason because they didn’t know that. :v:

MechaX
Nov 19, 2011

"Let's be positive! Let's start a fire!"

Fat and Useless posted:

TLDR: Its Eureka chat but with a guy way too mad at your old pal Hoary Boulder.

You should have stayed longer, because he might end up conquering your server!

Vitamean
May 31, 2012

Emalde posted:

My advice is don't be fooled by the hilarious pricetags on any of the BA-related cosmetics/trade-in items, it'll all crash very soon. Extra magicite via nonsense like Skoll's Fangs is for big dick parsing in content that's going to be dead when 5.0 drops and is fully unnecessary for actually getting your Demi-Ozma. Mill yourself through the early pulls to get Eureka Fragments for some Elemental+2 armor (sans chest or chest+head if you're a caster) and you'll be in perfectly fine shape.[/timg]

This is super comforting to hear. I hit 52 in pyros because I've been trying to push for Skoll and Ying-Yang drops all weekend.

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Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters

Vitamean posted:

This is super comforting to hear. I hit 52 in pyros because I've been trying to push for Skoll and Ying-Yang drops all weekend.

Yeah the only real purpose of those items is scalping rich people with no concept of marginal value

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