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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

bushisms.txt posted:

It's also proven to be bullshit, so please don't put yourself through torture porn.

Source? These guys don't sound like they're lying.

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bushisms.txt
May 26, 2004

Scroll, then. There are other posts than these.


https://t.co/mSGvJuYE15?amp=1

Here's a link to the request for arbitration for a public hearing the MJ estate sent out last week in response to this. Read all of it.

Like the dude's story in the doc doesn't even match the one he told the courts.

Then google master of deception Wade if to want to go down a YouTube hole.

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

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Electronico6 posted:

The DP is Robert Elswit who also did There Will Be Blood and a bunch of other PTA stuff. Which makes it even more baffling as to why Velvet Buzzsaw looks like complete rear end.

Was Velvet Buzzsaw shot on RED cameras and has Elswit used those before?

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

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I’m not saying this lightly. This has a good shot of being the worse DC movie so far.

Adlai Stevenson
Mar 4, 2010

Making me ashamed to feel the way that I do

X-Ray Pecs posted:

I’m not saying this lightly. This has a good shot of being the worse DC movie so far.

Are we talking modern era or are we including Steel?

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.

X-Ray Pecs posted:

I’m not saying this lightly. This has a good shot of being the worse DC movie so far.

I disagree. It definitely looks way more promising than Aquamn, and as far as attempting to strike a middle-ground between Snyder's apocalypticism and generic feel good power fantasy, so far this is scanning as pretty effective. I like the last joke where he's so excited to have saved people that he completely forgets that he almost killed them.

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"

X-Ray Pecs posted:

Was Velvet Buzzsaw shot on RED cameras and has Elswit used those before?

Nope, Panavision Millennium DXL

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011

X-Ray Pecs posted:

Was Velvet Buzzsaw shot on RED cameras and has Elswit used those before?

Looking at Nightcrawler and it was shot digital but with Arri Alexa, and his PTA stuff is all film. But Velvet Buzzsaw was an actual Netflix original production and financing and all of their stuff has to be 4K/8K ready, so yeah it probably is that Elswit just isn't comfortable enough with the format and camera.

Electronico6 fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Mar 4, 2019

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
I think Shazam has the chance of being the best modern post-Nolan DC film. It's not taking itself seriously at all, which has been the biggest issue with DC's films so far.

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

Oh drat. Luke Perry died.

bushisms.txt
May 26, 2004

Scroll, then. There are other posts than these.


Detective No. 27 posted:

Oh drat. Luke Perry died.

gently caress, how old was he?

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer


SHORT FILMS thread is up.


bushisms.txt posted:

gently caress, how old was he?

52. Had a massive stroke. Poor guy.

bushisms.txt
May 26, 2004

Scroll, then. There are other posts than these.


It's crazy, the dude was pretty much 90s incarnate for better or worse, and one of the first white stars i remembered by name. First Brody, now him, celeb deaths are really starting to get to me and it's really weird.

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.
Perry was by all accounts a nice guy to work with as well, and he was also a better actor than he was given credit for.

Plus, he has the distinction of getting killed twice in OZ.

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

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K. Waste posted:

I disagree. It definitely looks way more promising than Aquamn, and as far as attempting to strike a middle-ground between Snyder's apocalypticism and generic feel good power fantasy, so far this is scanning as pretty effective. I like the last joke where he's so excited to have saved people that he completely forgets that he almost killed them.

Franchescanado posted:

I think Shazam has the chance of being the best modern post-Nolan DC film. It's not taking itself seriously at all, which has been the biggest issue with DC's films so far.

It just doesn’t look funny to me, the gags aren’t fresh, and I don’t like Shazam’s face.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


X-Ray Pecs posted:

I’m not saying this lightly. This has a good shot of being the worse DC movie so far.

It's literally the only one that looks like it might be any good.

Detective No. 27 posted:

Oh drat. Luke Perry died.

No one should go that young.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

X-Ray Pecs posted:

It just doesn’t look funny to me, the gags aren’t fresh, and I don’t like Shazam’s face.

He looks like a pervert.

Splint Chesthair
Dec 27, 2004


HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

He looks like a pervert.

There's definitely something off-putting about a grown man doing so much Disney Channel-style mugging, that's for sure.

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

He looks like a pervert.

He’s 15

Flying Zamboni
May 7, 2007

but, uh... well, there it is

Liberal Idiot posted:

There's definitely something off-putting about a grown man doing so much Disney Channel-style mugging, that's for sure.

It's a matter of if Levi comes across as a kid pretending to be an adult or just an adult pretending to be a kid. The former is whimsical while the latter is a little creepy.

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

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Liberal Idiot posted:

There's definitely something off-putting about a grown man doing so much Disney Channel-style mugging, that's for sure.

It’s going to be two and a half hours of that goddamn Muffin Time TikTok.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Luke Perry's final role is gonna be in the new Tarantino. That will be interesting.

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

At the very least I give DC a bunch of credit for choosing the perfect character to attempt their full on light-hearted wish-fulfillment comedy.

That said, with how hard they are clearly chasing the MCU style, it'll be pretty surprising if it is anything other than a super safe, by the numbers origin story without anything really interesting going on.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Guy A. Person posted:

At the very least I give DC a bunch of credit for choosing the perfect character to attempt their full on light-hearted wish-fulfillment comedy.

That said, with how hard they are clearly chasing the MCU style, it'll be pretty surprising if it is anything other than a super safe, by the numbers origin story without anything really interesting going on.

I mean, I don't think they're chasing the MCU style that hard, unless anything that's lighthearted and quippy and not lit like Saw is automatically Marvel. I think the director has been given enough freedom with this one that if it turns out a certain way that's probably what he actually wanted and not an edict to ape something else.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

TrixRabbi posted:

Luke Perry's final role is gonna be in the new Tarantino. That will be interesting.

Luke Perry was freaking amazing on Riverdale, and his character was a pretty big part of the show. The end of this season's going to be rough as hell knowing Perry's not coming back.

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"
Shazam has potential as a superhero take on Big, but it’s also got potential to be extremely creepy...like Big

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

Lurdiak posted:

I mean, I don't think they're chasing the MCU style that hard, unless anything that's lighthearted and quippy and not lit like Saw is automatically Marvel. I think the director has been given enough freedom with this one that if it turns out a certain way that's probably what he actually wanted and not an edict to ape something else.

I think it's fairly obvious they're chasing the MCU because of the behind the scenes stuff that happened on their past several movies (like, bringing the director of the two previous Avengers movies in to "fix" Justice League is pretty self-explanatory) and then the color palette/tone trending toward more vibrant and light-hearted seems to align with that ongoing goal.

Obviously mimicking certain things that have worked for Marvel doesn't mean they'll do everything Marvel does. And not that the Marvel stuff is bad, just that trying to ape something successful tends to create something that's like that thing but more watered down and redundant. My fear is that with their past failures they will play it too safe and we'll come up with something bland and just like other poo poo that's out there.

But yeah, I hope you're right and they gave the director some freedom to do some interesting stuff.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
Patton Oswalt, on today's Comedy Bang Bang, suggested that DC take Ben Schwartz's interest in playing Plastic Man seriously, as he's exactly the character for DC to use to capture the Deadpool audience while also being fun and unique in his own right.

DC honestly needs to just hire Patton Oswalt as story consultant for the Universe, like how MCU used James Gunn to plan out their cosmic slate of films and how to approach the larger crossovers. Oswalt predicted the Suicide Squad film years before they attempted to make the movie, and had a really good pitch. The dude obviously wants good DC movies, and he seems enthusiastic about it as long as he doesn't have acting roles lined up that he's obligated to fulfill.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
Coffee and Pie was talking up Noe's Climax in the horror thread. If I'm too tired to see Roma in theaters tonight, which Noe film should I watch? Climax, Love, or Enter The Void? Content and tone are irrelevant.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Franchescanado posted:

Coffee and Pie was talking up Noe's Climax in the horror thread. If I'm too tired to see Roma in theaters tonight, which Noe film should I watch? Climax, Love, or Enter The Void? Content and tone are irrelevant.

ENTER THE VOID!!!!

Seeing that movie in a tired sleep deprived state is the best way to watch that movie.

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

bushisms.txt posted:

https://t.co/mSGvJuYE15?amp=1

Here's a link to the request for arbitration for a public hearing the MJ estate sent out last week in response to this. Read all of it.

Like the dude's story in the doc doesn't even match the one he told the courts.

Then google master of deception Wade if to want to go down a YouTube hole.

I've pretty much resigned myself to accept the fact that I will never have any loving idea what happened with MJ and any kids. I firmly believe that the LA district attorney's office had a personal vendetta to go after him and that much of their cases and evidence over the years was loving shady as hell.

But a request for arbitration is far, far far from anything remotely reliable as proof that the documentary is full of poo poo. Hell, the first allegation is a bunch of horseshit in both the heading and the first few paragraphs:

quote:

[A. Michael Jackson Was Proven Innocent

1. Michael Jackson passed away almost ten years ago on June 25, 2009, as a result of
a criminal homicide by his “doctor.” Almost exactly four years earlier, on June 14, 2005, Jackson
was exonerated by a unanimous jury of twelve men and women in Santa Maria, California, on
discredited charges that he had committed unspeakable acts.

2. Michael Jackson’s acquittal was not the result of some technical “reasonable
doubt” argument. The phrase “reasonable doubt” appeared only once in Jackson attorney Tom
Mesereau’s opening statement (at the very end of it). Rather, much to the media’s legal experts’
ridicule at the time, Mesereau affirmatively assumed the burden of proving Jackson innocent in
the case. Among his first words to the jury in his opening statement were: “I say to you right now,
I am going to make some promises in this case, I am going to fulfill them, and I want you to judge
me accordingly at the end. These charges are fake, silly, ridiculous.” Mesereau left no doubt
about what he was promising to prove: “We will prove [that child molestation] never, ever
happened.” Three-and-a-half months later, the jury found that Mesereau had kept his promises.
The jury found that Michael Jackson was no child molester. The jury found that Mesereau was
right: the charges against Jackson were “fake, silly, and ridiculous.”

There is no court in the history of this country that has ever "proven someone's innocence" and just because an attorney says he is willing to accept a different burden of proof doesn't actually change the burden of proof in a case, let alone having a not guilty verdict being anything remotely similar to a jury having "found" that an attorney's opening remarks were right.

Again, there is serious shade to throw at all sides in this story, but a loving pleading is worthless in proving anything.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Franchescanado posted:

Patton Oswalt, on today's Comedy Bang Bang, suggested that DC take Ben Schwartz's interest in playing Plastic Man seriously, as he's exactly the character for DC to use to capture the Deadpool audience while also being fun and unique in his own right.

DC honestly needs to just hire Patton Oswalt as story consultant for the Universe, like how MCU used James Gunn to plan out their cosmic slate of films and how to approach the larger crossovers. Oswalt predicted the Suicide Squad film years before they attempted to make the movie, and had a really good pitch. The dude obviously wants good DC movies, and he seems enthusiastic about it as long as he doesn't have acting roles lined up that he's obligated to fulfill.

Patton Oswalt is OnePerfectShot, confirmed

https://twitter.com/OnePerfectShot/status/1072372408760307712?s=19

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Honest Thief posted:

The moment I knew I was sold on Sorry to Bother You was about 10 mins with the new team lead scene.
"Does that mean we get paid more?"
"hmmmmm no" while doing a quirky :airquote:

definitely the best movie of 2018 and probably in the top 5 for the decade

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Guy A. Person posted:

I think it's fairly obvious they're chasing the MCU because of the behind the scenes stuff that happened on their past several movies (like, bringing the director of the two previous Avengers movies in to "fix" Justice League is pretty self-explanatory) and then the color palette/tone trending toward more vibrant and light-hearted seems to align with that ongoing goal.

Obviously mimicking certain things that have worked for Marvel doesn't mean they'll do everything Marvel does. And not that the Marvel stuff is bad, just that trying to ape something successful tends to create something that's like that thing but more watered down and redundant. My fear is that with their past failures they will play it too safe and we'll come up with something bland and just like other poo poo that's out there.

But yeah, I hope you're right and they gave the director some freedom to do some interesting stuff.

Joss Whedon was almost certainly brought in because of the success of his Avengers films, but the reason they brought in a second director at all wasn't to "fix" Justice League, but because Zack Snyder took a leave of absence after his daughter committed suicide. I very seriously doubt Whedon (or any other director) would have been involved at all if not for that.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

banned from Starbucks posted:

She can barely talk and walks with a cane.

that's sad.

if you're a Selma Blair head and want to see a great recent performance from her, definitely check out Mom and Dad.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Skwirl posted:

Joss Whedon was almost certainly brought in because of the success of his Avengers films, but the reason they brought in a second director at all wasn't to "fix" Justice League, but because Zack Snyder took a leave of absence after his daughter committed suicide. I very seriously doubt Whedon (or any other director) would have been involved at all if not for that.

It's already been confirmed that Whedon was brought on months before Snyder's daughter's unfortunate suicide, and that was just used as Warner Bros.'s official excuse reasoning so as to distract from Justice League's sinking ship.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:

would anyone be willing to write my little brother in jail? he's bored and looking for penpals

yeah hit me up on twitter, i've been doing inmate letter writing stuff around the holidays the past couple years

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer

ruddiger posted:

ENTER THE VOID!!!!

Seeing that movie in a tired sleep deprived state is the best way to watch that movie.

Agreed. That's the state I saw it in and it hosed me up. The movie has what in my opinion is the best jump scare ever.

Splint Chesthair
Dec 27, 2004


Coffee And Pie posted:

Shazam has potential as a superhero take on Big, but it’s also got potential to be extremely creepy...like Big

The guy who is sort of in charge of DC Comics and its movie division once wrote a whole storyline about how Shazam quit the Justice Society rather than stop dating his 14-year-old teammate. Because the Wisdom of Solomon told him it was better if Green Lantern thought he was a pederast or something. Really hoping the movie doesn't go down that particular little comedic cul-de-sac.

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CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:

that's sad.

if you're a Selma Blair head and want to see a great recent performance from her, definitely check out Mom and Dad.

She was my favorite part. Cage is an obvious love but I really dug what Blair was doing. She nailed the confusion and utter disgust perfectly.

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