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Tesseraction posted:lmao yeup, she's going to try again https://twitter.com/KevDoyle_Indo/status/1105097095004983296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw "We're making good progress on a deal" - 29th March, 2093, Great British Wasteland
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Guavanaut posted:Well, the calculation is "do you have a NI number? y/n" which is different to existing, and one that is already used for current benefits. Everyone who’s ever worked in the UK has an NI number. Going to pay this to everyone who’s done a few bar shifts on a working holiday, and every temp agricultural worker when they’re both long gone from the UK and not coming back?
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Tesseraction posted:lmao yeup, she's going to try again https://twitter.com/KevDoyle_Indo/status/1105097095004983296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw Obstacles remain: - Brexit.
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Ash Crimson posted:What are you trying to say? Tesseraction posted:to be fair to rumpelstiltzkin he only bottled it because gove stabbed him in the back and then the dick an hour beforehand Imagine Michael Gove. He's in your head now. He lives. Cerv posted:Everyone who’s ever worked in the UK has an NI number.
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Cerv posted:Everyone who’s ever worked in the UK has an NI number.
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This looks relevant. Not sure if it's outright stated in there.
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Tesseraction posted:lol she's going to do another insane parade in Strasbourg https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1105090558639382528 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUmLjTOkHzs fluid
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Mar 11, 2019 14:54
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lol it's already a dud https://twitter.com/adamfleming/status/1105101488412676096 loving that last quote tho :ukmtsickos:
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Mar 11, 2019 14:55
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Nothingtoseehere posted:Votes of no confidence in a specific minister is possible - it happened in the 19th century and succeeded then. The problem is no one is sure if those votes were binding, and they targeted lower Ministers like foreign instead of the PM (although constitutionally there shouldn't be a difference) Bring back Acts of Attainder imo 
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Mar 11, 2019 14:56
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Guavanaut posted:This looks relevant. Not sure if it's outright stated in there.  https://www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/10183_DWP_The-Pension-Service-the-impact-of-legacy-ICT-case-study_final.pdf about .5% of the payout
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lol here's a brexiteer salty that we learned of May's trip via Irish politicians https://twitter.com/SteveBakerHW/status/1105101744315531264
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feedmegin posted:Bring back Acts of Attainder imo  
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To liberate the oppressed peoples of the United Kingdom and protect them from brutal dictatorship, we must invade Eire-aq
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i have no benchmarks like what the overhead on private pensions or UC or whatever is, but my instinct is 50bps of costs is Pretty Great
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https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1105096047024619521?s=21 Burn this country to the ground. Brexit is too good for us
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Noxville posted:https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1105096047024619521?s=21
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Noxville posted:https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1105096047024619521?s=21 This toilet island.
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OwlFancier posted:Essentially if you're gonna say people died because of the IRA, you might wanna follow that to its logical conclusion and wonder why the IRA existed and whose fault that might be. Allow me to post something relevant from one of the great philosophers of our time: https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=qX_0763FOjA
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if you ever want to feel truly miserable watch a 10 year old episode of HIGNFY on Dave
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Or anything 10 years old with Tory MPs on it.
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best bbc news reporter? lizo mzimba
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Tesseraction posted:lol it's already a dud [ 
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WhatEvil posted:Allow me to post something relevant from one of the great philosophers of our time: The ipad and irish reuinification being the two things we do faster than star trek predicted.
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Noxville posted:https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1105096047024619521?s=21 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NGFToiLtXro Jihadi baby, and if its quite alright, Jihadi baby, I would like you to fight, Jihadi baby, trust in me when I say: Jihadi baby, we will kill infidels, Jihadi baby, we’ll send them all to hell...
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Mar 11, 2019 15:19
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Guavanaut posted:Metro continues to be worth less than its cover price. It's literally the Daily Mail only with a story selection skewed to younger people.
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I remember them plagiarizing Yahoo News, errors intact, in the mid-00s. If anything they were better back then.WhatEvil posted:Jihadi baby, and if its quite alright, 
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Guavanaut posted:It's going to be based on application. So it's not going to all taxpayers after all then.
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ThomasPaine posted:AHHHHHHH Also a terf with a strangely focused attitude to fluid states being class-based only.
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If you have money but aren't regarded as posh and this is a problem then that suggests that you haven't got enough money to be in a different class.
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'Have money' isn't what makes you a different class. 'Have so much money you can literally never spend all of it' is.
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OwlFancier posted:If you have money but aren't regarded as posh and this is a problem then that suggests that you haven't got enough money to be in a different class. you have your aaron banks types, surely, or the wetherspoons bloke if you're stupendously rich you can just ignore the whole u-non-u dichotomy, but the old money crowd are always going to titter behind your back
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Guavanaut posted:Or anything 10 years old with Tory MPs on it. Watching anything ten years old with a Tory MP in it is illegal and will get you banned from these forums.
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thespaceinvader posted:'Have money' isn't what makes you a different class. 'Have so much money you can literally never spend all of it' is. Actually, it's 'exploiting the labour of others' vs. 'selling your labour', and this is for some reason difficult for people to understand because some of the former like chips and some of the latter like wine
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thespaceinvader posted:So it's not going to all taxpayers after all then. 1. Yes, we live in a society. 2. Yes, this is the bourgeoisie, as opposed to the aristocracy. 3. Yes, this is half the aristocracy now. 4. Neither of the above should. 5. No u, terf. Jedit posted:Watching anything ten years old with a Tory MP in it is illegal and will get you banned from these forums.
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coffeetable posted:
.5% of the £96 billion annual pension budget would actually be enough to buy a squadron of F35s ($96 million each), so I don’t think it counts as petty cash. Plus costs to develop a new system, rather than just keep one running, would presumably be several times that. Of course the real issue with any of these UBI-lite scheme are the way they privelege inherited capital over earnt income. They are great for people with trust funds, or in early retirement, who have no need for anything as proletarian as a job. And neutral or negative for those who lack inherited or accumulated wealth. One day, the world will be a classless society of aristocrats. Everyone will have equally massive wealth by right, and will be free to pursue the hobbies that interest them without financial reward. The trick is getting to there from here; its not like it can be done by simply gradually expanding the number of life peerages awarded each year.
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Ash Crimson posted:What are you trying to say? well normally you're quite gleeful about the death of english people by situations they make themselves?
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It's quite interesting because I suppose what we have here is an almost dual class system - the 'British class system' which is all culture and breeding and borderline feudal in character, and the more precisely defined Marxist notion. They're related though separate concepts, and I often feel that one of the major problems we have in British discourse is that we never clearly distinguish between them, so debate often becomes a load of people talking past each other.
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