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Yeah if I was pregnant with one I'd already be scared. Four sounds loving horrifying and painful. Pretty sure the life and wellbeing of the already grown human outweighs the potential life of some cells. I mean the least that can be done is that at least she gets to pick. Poor lady.
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Anne Whateley posted:I took those words directly from the OP You paraphrased the post into a conversation that cast her in a better light than what she actually said, and are acting like it was a direct quote There is absolutely no indicator that he's destitute or not "pulling his weight", you're also making that up You'd think if he were coming to her for money all the time, she'd mention that, but no, she doesn't, presumably because he isn't Stop making things up wholecloth and contorting yourself here, geeze
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I'd lean into the designer babies thing, keep the 2 boys and name them Solid and Liquid.
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Anne Whateley posted:It wasn't the OP's choice as some kind of individual thing. It sounds like you're just hearing about it, but selective reduction is the norm in IVF -- it has been for 30 years. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_reduction Yea octomom was mishandled, I got to hear a few knowledgeable rants from an obs/gyn doctor friend. Upon re-reading the post, I guess saying that Mom was right is too strong of a stance. The OP making that choice is fine (thanks for giving it a name, I vaguely knew zygote picking happens but nothing proper), and mom calling her privileged is off base. All I really read/saw was the Designer baby comment which I still feel is on point. Let me put it this way: hypothetically, if the doctors could tell mom nothing but the colour of the child's hair, or their height, and she responded with delight of 'Oh, I always wanted tall blond kids, yes please!', is that any worse? How about other attributes we might be able to find genetically, such as predisposition towards music, or social grace? Designer babies means a very specific thing of genetically altering the fetuses, which doesn't apply here, but the tone is clear. She had an arbitrary trait she wanted in her kids and selected for it. It's Eugenics, which is an ugly word, but only the most mild, milquetoast incarnation thereof. As for the others asking what she could of done... don't pick? Ask the doctors to choose whichever they feel are best positioned, and if they are all the same (probably), then grab two and random and tell the happy expectant parents if they're having boys or girls. Mom's being a bitch about it, but you are basically picking your child's sex from a brochure. 'Oh, I always wanted girls, the twins please!' Just own it.
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Mar 20, 2019 18:49
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Bring on Gattaca imo
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its almost like choosing the gender of your children in the absence of all other information, and designing your very own aryan superbaby, arent the same thing
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Mar 20, 2019 18:51
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Serephina posted:I fully support a persons choice to remove non-sentient parasites. Just don't candy coat it. 'Designer Babies' means a very specific thing, and the OP's choice was a clear step in that direction. Smilie face. You are a loving moron
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Mar 20, 2019 18:52
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I mean, it's her body, isn't it literally her choice? It's lovely for anyone else to analyze it, imo, and by being all fussy about her decision you really don't come across any better than anti-choice people. If she's happy with her decision, and her partner's happy, then shut the gently caress up! although tbh I do think the twin-bond idea is weird and people's obsession with twins is extremely weird, but whatever.
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Mar 20, 2019 18:55
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Scathach posted:I mean the least that can be done is that at least she gets to pick. Yeah, it was really heartwarming when Meryl Streep’s character was given agency over her future in Sophie’s Choice.
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I always love the ones where the title obviously makes them the rear end in a top hat but then it gets turned around and they're the hero [/quote]
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big dyke energy posted:I mean, it's her body, isn't it literally her choice? It's lovely for anyone else to analyze it, imo, and by being all fussy about her decision you really don't come across any better than anti-choice people. If she's happy with her decision, and her partner's happy, then shut the gently caress up! Yeah, you can't be pro-choice except when you're not. And technically being in favor of the right to choose while also accusing someone of playing god and going "down the road to damnation" for exercising that choice puts you on about the same level as being anti-choice as far as I'm concerned. Especially since they're ignoring the clear medical implications of that pregnancy.
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I'm not sure you have to be in favor of sex-selective abortion to call yourself pro-choice. If she had said she wanted to keep the boys I think some people might have a problem with that. Obviously this is a different situation than most given that she really needs to jettison two fetuses and has limited information. She wants the identical twins rather than the fraternal twins. I would think you might NOT want to go with both identical twins in case there is some genetic issue with them, and I think she is being weird, but what other information does she have to go on? Personally I would want a girl and a boy and ask the doctor to randomly select which girl and boy get removed, but it's not like they're is any easy or correct choice here.
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Mar 20, 2019 19:18
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The correct choice here is "whatever the pregnant person want because it's her body, and gently caress all other opinions." I'd be amazed if she didn't cut off the family members who had issues with this.
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therobit posted:I'm not sure you have to be in favor of sex-selective abortion to call yourself pro-choice. If she had said she wanted to keep the boys I think some people might have a problem with that. Just because of this abortion talk we're having I looked around and, holy poo poo. In TYOOL 2019 they're already aborting based on fetal blood tests that show a probability of a baby being homosexual.
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big dyke energy posted:I mean, it's her body, isn't it literally her choice? It's lovely for anyone else to analyze it, imo, and by being all fussy about her decision you really don't come across any better than anti-choice people. If she's happy with her decision, and her partner's happy, then shut the gently caress up! I don't care about this particular decision, but it's perfectly possible to support someone's right to make a choice even if you think the choice they are making is wrong. spacetoaster posted:Just because of this abortion talk we're having I looked around and, holy poo poo. In TYOOL 2019 they're already aborting based on fetal blood tests that show a probability of a baby being homosexual. Like, I can manage to be pro-choice while also thinking that's hosed up.
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spacetoaster posted:I would hope that the police/this person ask the randos showing up to show, on air bnb, who they made the deal through. Back when I worked in law enforcement this scam happened all the time. Nothing to do besides forward it to the FBI since local cops don’t have the resources to find out and even if we did unless the scammer is dumb enough to do it in his own town/county/state/country we don’t have the jurisdiction. All you have to do is pull online tour images of the condo building from its website, put it up on sites that don’t require much verification and people will start buying. I doubt the people doing it are sophisticated enough or even care to use a VPN. If you’re in India, it’s not like the local cops are gonna come knocking. All I could do was forward what names, addresses, phone numbers to the FBI who never emailed me back soooo. It’s a pretty successful scam and it’s hosed up since it’s almost always lower income families who went deal hunting and don’t know much about vacation planning who wind up taking a long car ride to discover at 1100pm that they got nowhere to stay and every hotel in 30 miles is booked solid. Butter Activities fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Mar 20, 2019 |
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Patrick Spens posted:
Sorry the thread has voted that you can not. I’m not sure why though you can’t be pro choice but still think the decisions people make are hosed up. That doesn’t make you suddenly not pro choice.
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It's because it's an immensely polarizing issue and any step even slightly out of the "abortions are absolutely okay in any circumstance" and "abortions are absolutely never okay, ever" binary is seen as bad This is primarily because there's a whole lot of stuff tied up into this and there really are a lot of "well, if you think that particular abortion should be disallowed, then........" Arguments from the right that seek purely to weaken the validity of support for it so they can force forward a ban
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therobit posted:I'm not sure you have to be in favor of sex-selective abortion to call yourself pro-choice. If she had said she wanted to keep the boys I think some people might have a problem with that. I'm saying I think people who say "gently caress you for getting an abortion! Oh, I'm pro-choice though.  " do not genuinely support an individual's right to control their own body and would probably be perfectly fine outlawing the "bad" abortions, i.e. the ones they don't agree with. I certainly wouldn't trust anyone like that to back me up on anything important. To me, being pro-choice is not something you can go halfway on. I'm not saying you have to personally agree with someone's reasoning behind their choice, but if you're fine judging the hell out of them and saying they're a bad person for doing it then I kind of doubt how much you supported the ability to actually make that choice in the first place.A lot of people really like making up hypothetical scenarios where a woman's right to choose goes "too far" and I always have to wonder what the motive behind those statements are. I also hear a lot of poo poo from people around me about sex-selective abortion in places like India where they're content to blame the women for doing it instead of wondering why it's so common in the first place, but that's a whole other issue really. I wouldn't even call this particular instance sex-selective abortion though for the reasons stated. You could consider aborting any of the four to be technically sex-selective since they're not all the same sex. wizardofloneliness fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Mar 20, 2019 |
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spacetoaster posted:Just because of this abortion talk we're having I looked around and, holy poo poo. In TYOOL 2019 they're already aborting based on fetal blood tests that show a probability of a baby being homosexual. 
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For the record, is anyone accusing the mom of being sexist for wanting girls instead of boys?
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Dr. S.O. Feelgood posted:I'm saying I think people who say "gently caress you for getting an abortion! Oh, I'm pro-choice though. I mean it probably is bait but it sort of slots into this big ol' post pretty well as a check to the conviction of your stance on this
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Dr. S.O. Feelgood posted:I'm not saying you have to personally agree with someone's reasoning behind their choice, but if you're fine judging the hell out of them and saying they're a bad person for doing it then I kind of doubt how much you supported the ability to actually make that choice in the first place. Do you have this problem when talking about other choices? If I judge someone for getting hammered while they are looking after a child, do you think I want to bring back prohibition?
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Blade Runner posted:I mean it probably is bait but it sort of slots into this big ol' post pretty well as a check to the conviction of your stance on this You know, I went searching for that because I hadn't heard of that stuff being done, and the only thing I saw about it was some lovely satire article on The Federalist, so. Patrick Spens posted:Do you have this problem when talking about other choices? If I judge someone for getting hammered while they are looking after a child, do you think I want to bring back prohibition? No, because I don't just copy paste my opinions for one thing onto a completely different situation.
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Dr. S.O. Feelgood posted:You know, I went searching for that because I hadn't heard of that stuff being done, and the only thing I saw about it was some lovely satire article on The Federalist, so.  g-go on?
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I am for abortions at any time for any reason and am hoping some of your parents take that option soon.
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Just can't get my penis inside u/_Dark_Sun quote:I was trying to make girl loose virginity (haven't done this before), but just couldn't get my penis in (tried missionary and girl-on-top).
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Dazerbeams posted:For the record, is anyone accusing the mom of being sexist for wanting girls instead of boys? On reddit probably yes. Here? Absolutely not as far as I’ve seen. I’d probably go for the girls too because while I don’t have kids everyone I know that has two boys one of them is like great and the other one is pure devil spawn lol.
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CheesyDog posted:Just can't get my penis inside Try having sex with an adult next time.
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Dazerbeams posted:For the record, is anyone accusing the mom of being sexist for wanting girls instead of boys? hey there’s nothing wrong with wanting the best for your kids, and the best includes the lower chance of being violent emotional-dimwits
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100% not bait. It's absolutely a thing. http://www.ashg.org/press/201510-sexual-orientation.html quote:An algorithm using epigenetic information from just nine regions of the human genome can predict the sexual orientation of males with up to 70 percent accuracy Dr. S.O. Feelgood posted:You know, I went searching for that because I hadn't heard of that stuff being done, and the only thing I saw about it was some lovely satire article on The Federalist, so. This is what they're using in tests today.
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r/sex Can someone please explains condoms and my partner being vegan affects using them u/neo0152 quote:Ok so I M(18) am a virgin and my gf (18(F)) is also a virgin and I’m completely new to worrying about condoms and to add complexity to the mix is she is vegan
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BRB I'm applying to patent gluten-free and vegan condoms
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CheesyDog posted:r/sex Is she going to eat them?
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Dr. S.O. Feelgood posted:You know, I went searching for that because I hadn't heard of that stuff being done, and the only thing I saw about it was some lovely satire article on The Federalist, so. You're sort of dodging past the point Take it as a hypothetical and answer the question
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CheesyDog posted:r/sex Never thought going vegan turned you into Ripley in Alien: Resurrection.
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big dyke energy posted:I mean, it's her body, isn't it literally her choice? It's lovely for anyone else to analyze it, imo, and by being all fussy about her decision you really don't come across any better than anti-choice people. If she's happy with her decision, and her partner's happy, then shut the gently caress up! yup. it's their choice. they made a stupid one, or not, it's not our place to pretend we can suddenly moralize this abortion if all of the others are okay.
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DeadMansSuspenders posted:My best friend (27m) and I ( 27f ) slept together and he pretends it never happened, but I received a letter from him today.  Can't believe everyone just skipped over this one
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imo you can feel a thing is morally wrong while still believing that someone has an inalienable right to do such a thing
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DeadMansSuspenders posted:Bullet status: dodged Yeah this one was super cute and I’m glad it had a happy ending. It’s nice to read one of these every so often and get the warm fuzzy feeling. Back to murdering babies though! As someone else mentioned it is one hell of a Sophie’s choice situation here. She seems to have made it easy but I’d be curious what her partner thinks.
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