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Leon Einstein posted:So? 15 year olds should not have parties when they get knocked up. It's not just a party, it's her community and family coming together to help a new mom. There's "I don't support this, you're in your own" and then there's "btw you're not allowed support from anywhere else either"
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Koalas March posted:It's not just a party, it's her community and family coming together to help a new mom. People should not support a fifteen year old's moron decision to become and remain pregnant
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Mar 27, 2019 18:52
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Koalas March posted:It's not just a party, it's her community and family coming together to help a new mom. She said she wouldn't throw her one, not that she was banned from having one. quote:I will not buy her baby clothes. I will not throw her a baby shower. When it comes down to it, she is to care for this child fully, as I am not it's Mom. That is basically the definition of, "I don't support this, you're on your own."
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Mar 27, 2019 18:59
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Koalas March posted:What's really ridiculous is the mom would t even let her have a drat baby shower, which would help them out a lot because they'd get a bunch of baby poo poo they need as gifts. Actually mom said she would not throw her a baby shower so it might happen if 15 year old makes it happen which means mostly teenagers attending and not a lot of gifts.
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Mar 27, 2019 19:00
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Koalas March posted:It's not just a party, it's her community and family coming together to help a new mom. The mom just said she won't throw her a baby shower. That doesn't mean an aunt/sister/friend/friend's mom can't organize one for her if she doubles down and goes forward with the pregnancy.
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Mar 27, 2019 19:02
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DemoneeHo posted:AITA - My boyfriend was lying down while I was unclogging the toilet First of all, well done putting the body of the post in a quote block so subsequent quoting won't force everyone to scroll it. Everyone be like DemoneeHo Second, toilets are funny things - they're extremely important, but also pretty uncomplicated, and 99% of the time whatever's wrong can be fixed by one person and a trip to Home Depot. "The toilet's hosed" is kind of a test-moment when it comes to what the kids call "adulting," and boy did he fail it. She didn't fail it, she rose to the occasion, and there was nothing wrong with calling for more experienced help, but just laying down the whole time...unforgivable. That guy's a bum.
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Mar 27, 2019 19:05
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Koalas March posted:It's not just a party, it's her community and family coming together to help a new mom. Regardless of the exact phrasing, she's obviously pulling out all the stops in an attempt to shock her stupid daughter into thinking clearly for two seconds.
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Mar 27, 2019 19:08
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Koalas March posted:What's really ridiculous is the mom would t even let her have a drat baby shower, which would help them out a lot because they'd get a bunch of baby poo poo they need as gifts. I agree with KM here. My Wife and I just had a baby, and honestly we would be in a much worse spot if we hadn't had a baby shower. I get that Mom is unhappy but banning her daughter from getting free poo poo (or going on family vacations) is loving asinine. I agree with all the other posters that she is trying to "shock" her daughter into giving up the baby, but I feel like all this is going to do is make her daughter dig in even more.
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Mar 27, 2019 19:16
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I hope there comes a point in this pregnancy where she stops worrying about her daughter and starts worrying about her grandkid
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Mar 27, 2019 19:18
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:who the gently caress puts this much thought into sex scoring and why are they getting laid ever I really don’t like the 1-10 scale! So much so that I’m gonna write a whole breakdown of it and talk loudly about it until someone directly addresses me!
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Mar 27, 2019 19:19
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TheScott2K posted:I hope there comes a point in this pregnancy where she stops worrying about her daughter and starts worrying about her grandkid I hope there comes a time that her daughter realizes that her life will be ruined and looks into adoption and other options.
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Mar 27, 2019 19:21
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SalTheBard posted:I agree with KM here. My Wife and I just had a baby, and honestly we would be in a much worse spot if we hadn't had a baby shower. I get that Mom is unhappy but banning her daughter from getting free poo poo (or going on family vacations) is loving asinine. I agree with all the other posters that she is trying to "shock" her daughter into giving up the baby, but I feel like all this is going to do is make her daughter dig in even more. Another misread. The mom isn’t throwing her a shower, not banning her from having one. And yeah, I get the vacation bit and I’m on board. This girl needs to understand that babies will ruin your life. It’s awesome in the long run if you have support and are relatively well-off, but babies immediately gently caress all your poo poo up, doubly if you are impoverished or have no support.
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Mar 27, 2019 19:21
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SalTheBard posted:I agree with KM here. My Wife and I just had a baby, and honestly we would be in a much worse spot if we hadn't had a baby shower. I get that Mom is unhappy but banning her daughter from getting free poo poo (or going on family vacations) is loving asinine. I agree with all the other posters that she is trying to "shock" her daughter into giving up the baby, but I feel like all this is going to do is make her daughter dig in even more. Are you and your wife 15 If not I have good news about how immensely different this situation is from yours
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Mar 27, 2019 19:25
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Blade Runner posted:Are you and your wife 15 I totally understand that our situations are different, but it's hard for us as two working professionals to deal with having a baby. My family and my wifes family have been total god sends. I don't think this 15 year old should keep her baby because it's going to gently caress up her life exponentially. I just think that the way her Mother is going about it is very detrimental to getting her daughter to do what is right (for the baby and her daughter)
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Mar 27, 2019 19:27
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SalTheBard posted:I totally understand that our situations are different, but it's hard for us as two working professionals to deal with having a baby. My family and my wifes family have been total god sends. I don't think this 15 year old should keep her baby because it's going to gently caress up her life exponentially. I just think that the way her Mother is going about it is very detrimental to getting her daughter to do what is right (for the baby and her daughter) What’s the alternative? Fully supporting this 15yo child having a goddamn baby? Are you insane?
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Mar 27, 2019 19:29
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I think the mom of the pregnant 15 year old is an rear end in a top hat based on her focusing on her own feelings rather than anything else, but she's not wrong to make it clear that she wont help and that raising a baby is going to suck and the daughter will be on her own. Where I think she really hosed up was when her daughter said she was afraid getting an abortion would hurt too much. That was her chance to get her daughter to listen by validating her feelings. Instead of belittling her for that, she should have tried to address get daughter's fears and feelings around that, and maybe help her realize that the abortion isn't going to be so bad, that it will be temporary, and then she could talk about how much childbirth sucks and how it would be a lot worse than an abortion.
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Mar 27, 2019 19:29
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SalTheBard posted:I totally understand that our situations are different, but it's hard for us as two working professionals to deal with having a baby. My family and my wifes family have been total god sends. I don't think this 15 year old should keep her baby because it's going to gently caress up her life exponentially. I just think that the way her Mother is going about it is very detrimental to getting her daughter to do what is right (for the baby and her daughter) she's a 15-year-old who got herself pregnant by some anonymous rando, "if you do this you won't get a fun party" is an infinitely more powerful motivator than "if you do this you'll be consigned to a life of drudgery and frustrated aspirations" therobit posted:I think the mom of the pregnant 15 year old is an rear end in a top hat based on her focusing on her own feelings rather than anything else, but she's not wrong to make it clear that she wont help and that raising a baby is going to suck and the daughter will be on her own. Where I think she really hosed up was when her daughter said she was afraid getting an abortion would hurt too much. That was her chance to get her daughter to listen by validating her feelings. Instead of belittling her for that, she should have tried to address get daughter's fears and feelings around that, and maybe help her realize that the abortion isn't going to be so bad, that it will be temporary, and then she could talk about how much childbirth sucks and how it would be a lot worse than an abortion. it... sounds like she literally did that and it worked.
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Mar 27, 2019 19:34
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SalTheBard posted:I totally understand that our situations are different, but it's hard for us as two working professionals to deal with having a baby. My family and my wifes family have been total god sends. I don't think this 15 year old should keep her baby because it's going to gently caress up her life exponentially. I just think that the way her Mother is going about it is very detrimental to getting her daughter to do what is right (for the baby and her daughter) So what do you suggest she do exactly
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Mar 27, 2019 19:38
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lol at the idea of someone with literally no frame of reference to conceptualize a life outside of school and mom's cooking being mainly into a baby shower for the highly practical gifts of food processors and diapers
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Mar 27, 2019 19:42
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Blade Runner posted:So what do you suggest she do exactly It's hard to say because I'm not in that situation. I think her approach is the issue I'm having but not her intent. Personally I feel that she should support her daughter 100% regardless of choice. I can totally see both sides of issue.
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Mar 27, 2019 19:47
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forever paralyzed by the truth is in the middle
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Mar 27, 2019 19:48
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I think we should give the mom some slack. Imagine trying to raise intelligent and sexually safe children and succeeding with the first, only to find out your second is an utter moron intent on making one of the worst possible decisions that will affect not only her own life, but the parents and the potential child as well. Seriously, that 15 year old girl wants to gently caress potentially 4 people over, not bothering to mention the father of the kid or the father's parents. Do whatever you gotta do to convince the girl to not turbofuck everything for the foreseeable future.
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Mar 27, 2019 19:51
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I think the daughter should have a good drat abortion but I don't know if she can force her to, I genuinely don't know how that works legally
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Mar 27, 2019 19:52
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Dazerbeams posted:not bothering to mention the father of the kid or the father's parents this did seem to be her main plan regarding child support yes
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Mar 27, 2019 19:53
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SalTheBard posted:It's hard to say because I'm not in that situation. I think her approach is the issue I'm having but not her intent. Personally I feel that she should support her daughter 100% regardless of choice. I can totally see both sides of issue. You’re an idiot. Supporting 100% a child who wants to carry another child to term and then gently caress off to college is an idiot choice.
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Mar 27, 2019 19:54
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Bored posted:I'm reminded of the old SA fart story where the sound of the fart was described as "a surprised James Earl Jones shouting the word 'BLACK'." Hahaha I remember this story! The jist of it was the guy was a bartender and was holding his fart in for like 20 minutes because some customer was pouring their heart to him about some tragedy in their life. He finally got an opportunity to walk into the back office/kitchen or something, locked eyes with a co-worker, and channeled Mufasa.
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Mar 27, 2019 19:57
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I'm sorry I don't have the whole thing for you guys.
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Buzkashi posted:I really don’t like the 1-10 scale! So much so that I’m gonna write a whole breakdown of it and talk loudly about it until someone directly addresses me! I mean he didn't even build an assessment off of a multiple Likert-scale questionnaire, how sure cane he even be that she's a 7
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Mar 27, 2019 19:57
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That moms being an honest OG and letting her daughter know it's gonna loving suck and she's in no way ready to raise a child.
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Mar 27, 2019 20:02
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:she's a 15-year-old who got herself pregnant by some anonymous rando, "if you do this you won't get a fun party" is an infinitely more powerful motivator than "if you do this you'll be consigned to a life of drudgery and frustrated aspirations" Nah, she said "then childbirth will kill you" in the middle of a screaming match she was having with her 15 year old daughter. She needed to stay calm and then actually acknowledge and address her daughter's fears. When your kid starts saying they are scared of something is when you listen, validate, then adress. Getting into a screaming match with your kid is basically never an effective strategy. And hey, people make parenting mistakes, but this mom seems to be so wrapped up in her own feelings that she can't seem to pull it together enough to parent effectively.
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Mar 27, 2019 20:06
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SalTheBard posted:It's hard to say because I'm not in that situation. I think her approach is the issue I'm having but not her intent. Personally I feel that she should support her daughter 100% regardless of choice. I can totally see both sides of issue. Your take on this is dumb as poo poo and you're legit a moron for saying she should support her 15 year old daughter 100% in doing a thing that will permanently ruin her life
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Mar 27, 2019 20:07
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imo 15 is old enough to handle giving birth to and raising a child, but not quite old enough to handle a very lopsided soccer defeat.
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Mar 27, 2019 20:08
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SalTheBard posted:It's hard to say because I'm not in that situation. I think her approach is the issue I'm having but not her intent. Personally I feel that she should support her daughter 100% regardless of choice. I can totally see both sides of issue.
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Mar 27, 2019 20:10
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Mary was an underage mother too, and her baby shower was nothing but some animals and a few randos with baffling gifts that would be no help with a small child. Really makes u think.
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Mar 27, 2019 20:11
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My MIL was knocked up at 15 and her parents forced her to quit school and marry the father. The marriage didn't work out, shockingly.
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Mar 27, 2019 20:12
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gently caress Your Website posted:Mary was an underage mother too, and her baby shower was nothing but some animals and a few randos with baffling gifts that would be no help with a small child. Really makes u think. Makes me think she should have gotten that thing taken care of and saved us all a lot of trouble
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Mar 27, 2019 20:13
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Ok fair.
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Mar 27, 2019 20:15
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WIBTA if I got myself a GameCube, even though one was already given to me as a gift?quote:I just want to start things off by saying that my relationship is long distance. Visits aren’t as frequent as we'd like, but they last a long time. I’m not sure if it’s information that should be taken into account, but it’s worth sharing.
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Mar 27, 2019 20:16
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hevnz 2 murgatroyd posted:imo 15 is old enough to handle giving birth to and raising a child, but not quite old enough to handle a very lopsided soccer defeat.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:I think that, given the benefit of hindsight, the parent who forever alienates their child but still convinces them to get the abortion is a better parent than the one who "supports them no matter what" and stands by their side while they dive headfirst into a life of suffering. I don't think I could ever leave my child to suffer forever but I could certainly imagine making them think I would so that they come to their senses. Agreed. Life is already hard enough as it is. No need to willfully make it 100x harder without fully grasping the situation until it's far too late to back out.
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gently caress Your Website posted:Mary was an underage mother too, and her baby shower was nothing but some animals and a few randos with baffling gifts that would be no help with a small child. Really makes u think. yeah and look how the kid turned out, on death row by 33
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