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Mar 31, 2019 21:53
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Gonna need a title for the movie with the exploring pig
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Mar 31, 2019 22:58
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TimWinter posted:Gonna need a title for the movie with the exploring pig babe: pig in the city?
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Mar 31, 2019 23:08
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NoneMoreNegative posted:
Oh poo poo, they have the February 8, 1993 issue of Time Magazine. The "cyberpunk" issue. In middle school I had one period where I was a library assistant. Basically shelving books and periodicals, but mostly just hanging out and reading stuff. When this issue of Time magazine dropped I must have read it 100 times. It caused me to seek out Mondo 2000 any time I was at a book store (I still have the last 5 issues they published).
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Mar 31, 2019 23:36
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kinda surprised i haven't seen any love death and robots avs yet
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Mar 31, 2019 23:47
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this is the scariest poo poo to me, because to anyone except experts or guys combing jpegs that's a real woman right there with this tech + that predictive text poo poo social media could be real bad in the very near future. Imagine arguing with an army of people on twitter only to discover that none of them are real. Imagine the damage you could loving do commanding such a convincing illusion of a large group of people.
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Mar 31, 2019 23:48
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abigserve posted:this is the scariest poo poo to me, because to anyone except experts or guys combing jpegs that's a real woman right there kojima warned us
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Mar 31, 2019 23:49
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it was a mistake writing an API for human relationships
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Apr 1, 2019 00:10
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watching Mortal Engines now, it's not really cyberpunk or that steampunk. masonrypunk?
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Apr 1, 2019 00:17
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abigserve posted:this is the scariest poo poo to me, because to anyone except experts or guys combing jpegs that's a real woman right there Sounds like social media now though.
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Apr 1, 2019 01:22
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https://twitter.com/metathreads/status/1112432066828869632
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Apr 1, 2019 01:40
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abigserve posted:this is the scariest poo poo to me, because to anyone except experts or guys combing jpegs that's a real woman right there yeah uh so, first off, congratulations on recovering from your coma. second, I’ve got some really bad news about 2016 to today...
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Apr 1, 2019 04:08
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Volmarias posted:Sounds like social media now though.
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Apr 1, 2019 04:31
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uncurable mlady posted:yeah uh so, first off, congratulations on recovering from your coma. second, I’ve got some really bad news about 2016 to today... I'm not convinced on the ethics of bringing him up to date given the sheer amount of hosed up poo poo that has been going on. Would there be a way to construct a story to explain what has been going on without actually exposing him to the sheer horror of the possibilities for abuse the new technologies have opened up? We could try to teach a neural network what's acceptable to people by, say, grabbing a few thousand hours of children's programming off YouTube, then have it edit out the unpleasant bits when people tell him what's going on.
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Apr 1, 2019 05:24
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TimWinter posted:Gonna need a title for the movie with the exploring pig pretty sure that's district 9 that effect was produced on-set with a small explosive charge in a bag of offal which smelled just as wonderful as you're imagining
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Apr 1, 2019 05:28
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are you guys loving with me or do you legitimately not see the difference between current social media mechanisms and the ability to invent an infinite number of convincing fake social media accounts
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Apr 1, 2019 08:35
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to use youtube as an example, currently the mountains of fake accounts are used to basically trick the algorithms into doing stuff but with this tech their verging on making computers that are convincing as real people (on the platform)
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Apr 1, 2019 08:45
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carry on then posted:babe: pig in the city? 
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Apr 1, 2019 12:49
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abigserve posted:are you guys loving with me or do you legitimately not see the difference between current social media mechanisms and the ability to invent an infinite number of convincing fake social media accounts i'm just contesting the notion that these accounts being 'convincing' matters somehow. an utterly distressing amount of people lack even a basic level of incredulity for outrageous claims they read online, regardless of the source
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Apr 1, 2019 12:54
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abigserve posted:are you guys loving with me or do you legitimately not see the difference between current social media mechanisms and the ability to invent an infinite number of convincing fake social media accounts i'd love for you to define your baseline for "convincing" because if it's at "has a human looking avatar", boy howdy do i have some news.
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Apr 1, 2019 13:06
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don't get me wrong, automating shitposting via neural networks and giving every bot a unique face via GAN is cyberpunk as hell, but i really don't see it being materially different than the status quo in anything other than volume
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Apr 1, 2019 13:09
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my opinion is that volume and a realistic facade are the two things missing from most automated campaigns right now and if those problems are solved through machine learning there's a potential to fool a much, much wider audience
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Apr 1, 2019 13:32
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abigserve posted:are you guys loving with me or do you legitimately not see the difference between current social media mechanisms and the ability to invent an infinite number of convincing fake social media accounts We get it and it's dystopian as heck yes but right now you don't need fake profiles to convince people online of anything.
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Apr 1, 2019 13:32
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infernal machines posted:don't get me wrong, automating shitposting via neural networks and giving every bot a unique face via GAN is cyberpunk as hell, but i really don't see it being materially different than the status quo in anything other than volume The volume is the difference. Sure maybe large entities can create hordes of fake accounts combining scripted replies and actual human ones and idk, throw elections for example. This would just lower the bar to accomplishing that, while potentially making them look more real in the process. Imagine if all those twitter accounts with no avatar and a handful of posts (all retweets of various conservative accounts) suddenly had convincing looking (fake) pictures uploaded, even entire fake conversations with other fake accounts. You wouldn't be able to tell who's real even with a fair amount of effort
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Apr 1, 2019 14:25
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but content wise, what difference would it make? if i'm not getting gaslit by a dozen fake accounts, am i going to be gaslit by 1000? hmm, this terrible hot take now has the form of a 9th grade book report, surely it must have been written by an opinion columnist and not a twitter bot, i guess maybe it's true after all infernal machines fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Apr 1, 2019 |
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Apr 1, 2019 14:51
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related: a good article on deceptive heuristics and media literacy in the context of people who do not exist
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Apr 1, 2019 15:08
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if only the bathroom goon had been more Cyberpunk than Doom mod: /rolls out of bed onto freezing steel-plate floor
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Apr 1, 2019 16:33
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*hops around cursing, falls headfirst into bathtub* welp, I was thinking about a skull upgrade anyway
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Apr 1, 2019 16:41
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When u have the French ambassadors reception at 8 but some Metal Gear sneaking espionage at 9   
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Apr 1, 2019 17:44
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abigserve posted:are you guys loving with me or do you legitimately not see the difference between current social media mechanisms and the ability to invent an infinite number of convincing fake social media accounts let me check in with my buddy about this 
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Apr 1, 2019 17:47
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prisoner of waffles posted:let me check in with my buddy about this laffo
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Apr 1, 2019 17:54
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iirc there are actual public RFPs for persona-management software (i.e. tools that help a single human operator manage the job of imitating multiple people online) from the USAF. if you think of imitating people online to try to impact discourse as having 3 axes of scale, input labor, and quality of output, fully automatic imitation is really just a matter of trying to drop input labor while maintaining quality of output. (consider also that you'll probably still have people QAing proposed poasts) what I'm getting at is having a fully-auto imitator bot would be more a difference of cost than kind
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Apr 1, 2019 18:00
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prisoner of waffles posted:iirc there are actual public RFPs for persona-management software (i.e. tools that help a single human operator manage the job of imitating multiple people online) from the USAF. These tweets aren't real, I say, as my election declares itself free and fair and turns into a corncob
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Apr 1, 2019 18:17
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Captain Foo posted:These tweets aren't real, I say, as my election declares itself free and fair and turns into a corncob roughly speaking, you should do all your trying to have any political impact either with people you know are real or not online so that you don't turn into the above
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Apr 1, 2019 18:35
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https://twitter.com/delaneykingrox/status/1112570351773339649
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Apr 1, 2019 19:32
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There is an interesting slap-fight happening now between old-school transhumanists and newer trans folks embracing the transhumanist movement. The old-school transhumanists have turned out to be pretty reactionary and lovely to trans folks. Of course, the transhumanist trans folks are falling into the same intellectual traps every transhumanist does, but they’re at least putting a new spin on it.
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Apr 1, 2019 19:59
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what traps are those?
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Apr 1, 2019 20:01
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El_Elegante posted:what traps are those? Viewing technology as on some set course that inevitably move forward (and not just forward, but forward towards goals they personally desire). The sublimation of deep anxieties leading towards an almost religious belief that their preferred sci-fi solution to them is right around the corner. Like, for a traditional transhumanist, they might allay their fear of death by convincing themselves that effective cryonics is right around the corner, and the contract they signed with that shady company to freeze their body will mean they get to live forever. For (some) of the trans folks embracing transhumanism, they do things like convince themselves that, say, biohackers are months away from figuring out how to reconfigure testicles to produce estrogen. They convince themselves they don’t need to actually thinking about transitioning because surely some miracle tech is right around the corner.
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we're about to enter the Culture and be able to change sex just by thinking hard about it for a moment
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