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That doesn't make any sense. Sexual assault is a crime, so Wohl is recruiting people to falsely accuse a public figure of a crime. How could that possibly not be illegal? And if it is, it seems like they got far enough along to prove intent.
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Stickman posted:That doesn't make any sense. Sexual assault is a crime, so Wohl is recruiting people to falsely accuse a public figure of a crime. How could that possibly not be illegal? And if it is, it seems like they got far enough along to prove intent. Short answer is that there is no Federal criminal defamation, only half of states have criminal defamation, and it's apparently pretty rarely prosecuted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation#Criminal_defamation_3 Defamation is generally a civil matter where the 'victim' sues the defamer. Mueller probably didn't view Wohl as worth his time.
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Stickman posted:That doesn't make any sense. Sexual assault is a crime, so Wohl is recruiting people to falsely accuse a public figure of a crime. How could that possibly not be illegal? And if it is, it seems like they got far enough along to prove intent. Obviously it's clear that poor Jacob Wohl is just too stupid to not commit crimes, and so he can never act with criminal intent. The system works, trust the smug twitter lawyer guy who acts completely detached from everything.
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I live in an idiosyncratic small city now. Blue state, democratic governance in the city, big union town, but also a lot of farmers/trades who are more socially conservative/very christian, with a recent influx of Hispanic immigrants. Overall I like it here for the hiking and the reasonable standard of living. I saw scrawled into the dirt of a truck on the road by my house "Subscribe to pewdiepie <3." I know what that little prick who did it is trying to do, and I'm not afraid or triggered. But I am angrier than I've felt in ages.
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https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1123045725615599616
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NO CRIMES HERE GUYS
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pseudanonymous posted:But he's not really committing libel, I think is the issue. He's suborning libel (I made that up) conspiring to get someone else to commit libel, aiding and abetting libel, but I don't think any of these things are really against "the law" though I'm only an expert on bird law. Inducing someone to commit a crime is a crime, though. The actual answer is Devor posted:Short answer is that there is no Federal criminal defamation, only half of states have criminal defamation, and it's apparently pretty rarely prosecuted. And also I forgot about defamation vs libel
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Attempted crimin' ain't no crime, that's just logic.
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Trump is torn between running out the clock and winning another term to avoid prosecution.
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Stickman posted:That doesn't make any sense. Sexual assault is a crime, so Wohl is recruiting people to falsely accuse a public figure of a crime. How could that possibly not be illegal? And if it is, it seems like they got far enough along to prove intent. Bear in mind that popehat is a fairly hardcore libertarian himself.
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FizFashizzle posted:Trump is torn between running out the clock and winning another term to avoid prosecution. No matter who wins, if Trump loses in 2020 he's not going to jail. There won't be enough political will or public support, and everyone will want to get busy forgetting he ever happened asap.
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... A white supremacist living on Rhodesia avenue?
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https://twitter.com/davidenrich/status/1123048717576228865
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Skippy McPants posted:No matter who wins, if Trump loses in 2020 he's not going to jail. There won't be enough political will or public support, and everyone will want to get busy forgetting he ever happened asap. Neat, tell me the lotto numbers of the next powerball.
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Devor posted:Short answer is that there is no Federal criminal defamation, only half of states have criminal defamation, and it's apparently pretty rarely prosecuted. But if you're framing them for an actual crime isn't it Conspiracy To Pervert The Course Of Justice?
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Skippy McPants posted:No matter who wins, if Trump loses in 2020 he's not going to jail. There won't be enough political will or public support, and everyone will want to get busy forgetting he ever happened asap. insert platitudes about moving forward
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Mummy Xzibit posted:NO CRIMES HERE GUYS please, name one crime that Deutsche Bank has ever been complicit in
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Grape posted:Neat, tell me the lotto numbers of the next powerball. If I were that optimistic, I'd bet on Trump going to prison for life. Anything can happen, of course, but baring a major shift public sentiment I think people will want to memory hole Trump the second he's out of office. poo poo, we couldn't even get Nixon into jail, and they had him on tape saying "I sure did all those awesome crimes!" and that was in the era before Fox News.
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does this really stop anything?
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So the president is suing a bank for complying with a congressional subpoena?
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Reik posted:So the president is suing a bank for complying with a congressional subpoena? Sorta, he's trying to prevent them from complying.
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Skippy McPants posted:No matter who wins, if Trump loses in 2020 he's not going to jail. There won't be enough political will or public support, and everyone will want to get busy forgetting he ever happened asap. If he loses in 2020, he's going to be in and out of courtrooms for the next half decade.
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Skippy McPants posted:If I were that optimistic, I'd bet on Trump going to prison for life. The biggest difference between Trump post-presidency and Nixon post-presidency might be that there are a hojillion state investigations looming over the orange goblin. The previous NYAG burned his charity-fraud piggybank to the ground, and the current NYAG campaigned explicitly on investigating and prosecuting Donald Trump, son of Fred Christ.
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OddObserver posted:... A white supremacist living on Rhodesia avenue? He doesn't live there, he owns property there. They're trying to gentrify the neighborhood so they can sell their property for big money.
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OddObserver posted:... A white supremacist living on Rhodesia avenue? i doubt he lives there, just owns property there lakewood is a very black part of atlanta
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Skippy McPants posted:If I were that optimistic, I'd bet on Trump going to prison for life. He was pardoned by his VP. Even if they pulled some weird lame duck retirement/Pence pardoning thing, that wouldn't save him from state criminal charges.
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KickerOfMice posted:Go watch Ponyo, you great big fool. And make some ham. Ham!
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I've been having an increasingly powerful case of ticking biological man-clock, please stop sharing stories of hanging out and watching adorable movies with your kids. Me and the missus are not in the financial space for this yet. I am begging you.
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Grape posted:I've been having an increasingly powerful case of ticking biological man-clock, please stop sharing stories of hanging out and watching adorable movies with your kids. Me and the missus are not in the financial space for this yet. I am begging you. https://twitter.com/madmeyers/status/909297943458582528
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GreyjoyBastard posted:please, name one crime that Deutsche Bank has ever been complicit in Error: not enough RAM to complete request
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Chilichimp posted:He doesn't live there, he owns property there. What came first, them buying the property, or them wanting to gentrify the neighborhood? Now that I think about it a very wealthy white supremacist could destroy a black neighborhood by buying a couple of properties in the area for an astronomical price, causing all property values in the area to skyrocket, and the corresponding increase in property taxes would then force the residents to sell their properties or abandon them.
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https://twitter.com/jeffzeleny/status/1123061459917918209 Montana. Texas. Georgia.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:please, name one crime that Deutsche Bank has ever been complicit in *unfurls scroll, which rolls out the door and down the street*
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Ague Proof posted:https://twitter.com/jeffzeleny/status/1123061459917918209 is this where she announces she's running for president? please say no
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Chilichimp posted:If he loses in 2020, he's going to be in and out of courtrooms for the next half decade. He'll suddenly and unexpectedly develop severe health problems (that won't affect his ability to golf)
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FuturePastNow posted:He'll suddenly and unexpectedly develop severe health problems (that won't affect his ability to golf) They'll give him, his family and the entire administration the alzheimer's potion that they gave to Ronnie Raygun.
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watergate seems very quaint compared to the crimes of presidents after Nixon
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qkkl posted:What came first, them buying the property, or them wanting to gentrify the neighborhood? Now that I think about it a very wealthy white supremacist could destroy a black neighborhood by buying a couple of properties in the area for an astronomical price, causing all property values in the area to skyrocket, and the corresponding increase in property taxes would then force the residents to sell their properties or abandon them. Them buying investment property there is the process of gentrification. There's a big production studio out that way, and the neighborhoods north and east are already pretty well into the process.
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enraged_camel posted:is this where she announces she's running for president?
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AmiYumi posted:Hadn’t Biden declared her as his VP (without ever asking her)? Wasn't that just a rumor?
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