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pseudanonymous posted:Farming is one of those things where there's definitely money to be made in it, but most of the money to be made is being made by huge corporations. Individual farmers are basically just running out the clock, and most of them would be better off, economically speaking, selling the land and investing the proceeds. That being said there are still some supreme grifters making tons of money owning land on which they do not grow alfalfa. Land prices are pretty dogshit right now too, so they can't walk away without getting screwed either.
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Shipon posted:this looks like something you'd see in some lovely cyberpunk themed porn Shadowrun is now.
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Epic High Five posted:I was under the impression that we were all spies and have been using this thread to post mission updates in plain speech code Wrong thread. I think you're looking for the crazy forwarded e-mail thread, formerly run by a (Glenn Beck-proven) real CIA agent.
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May 1, 2019 13:59
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Nothus posted:Land prices are pretty dogshit right now too, so they can't walk away without getting screwed either. why would big business pay a premium now when they know they’ll be able to buy the land for pennies on the dollar in a couple of years when the farmers are all forced to declare bankruptcy.
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May 1, 2019 14:18
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Farmers are funny as hell, because they always play the victim card. "I have to wake up at dawn" Bitch, we all do that
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May 1, 2019 15:49
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before i went to college i woke up at 4am to feed/milk the cows, get up chicken eggs, feed the goats, pigs and ducks/chickens etc then i went to college and lived in a two-person room and when i tried to keep the same schedule my roommate was pissed at me so i had to give it up
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May 1, 2019 15:54
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dont milk your roommate wtf
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ElGroucho posted:Farmers are funny as hell, because they always play the victim card. Same for assholes who think sleeping past 9AM is some kind of sin.
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May 1, 2019 16:40
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Serf posted:before i went to college i woke up at 4am to feed/milk the cows, get up chicken eggs, feed the goats, pigs and ducks/chickens etc Construction workers and hospital workers also wake up that early, but they're not Real Americans™
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May 1, 2019 17:01
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Minecraft Holmes posted:Construction workers and hospital workers also wake up that early, but they're not Real Americans™ also tons of food service workers if stuff like baking or a lot of prep or breakfast specialization is involved, but again see above lol
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May 1, 2019 17:03
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Minecraft Holmes posted:Construction workers and hospital workers also wake up that early, but they're not Real Americans™ lotta people wake up at 4am. other people are already working at 4am or going to bed at 4am
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May 1, 2019 17:06
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I wake up at 9am and then bitch and moan for an hour in bed before falling back to sleep.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0kYS-mHMCs
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May 1, 2019 21:10
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When you wake up doesn’t really matter as night shift is a thing and for the most part people don’t whine about it
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May 1, 2019 21:18
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CharlestheHammer posted:When you wake up doesn’t really matter as night shift is a thing and for the most part people don’t whine about it "Why don't you go to sleep at 6-8am when you get off work?" asks a day shift person. "Do you go to sleep at 6pm when you get off work? Why should I be any different?" was always my response to that stupid loving question.
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May 1, 2019 21:43
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ElGroucho posted:Farmers are funny as hell, because they always play the victim card. I cant speak for food crop farmers inCalifornia, but midwest grain farming is basically a part time job done by a small group. It takes a couple of weeks to plant 1k acres, then you shoot the poo poo at the co-op with the other folks who do Jack poo poo for 9 months out of the year until it is time to harvest then you work for another couple weeks. There is a ton of hurry up and wait in the industry. If anyone is interested in midwest corn growing trends since the Reagan era, the University of Illinois has a study for you to enjoy! Something like 92% of land in Iowa is in row crop production. Basically if it isnt under water or under a home or building, corn or beans is grown on it. So, goon reading this, what percentage of Iowans do you think make their primary income through farming? Go on. Guess. The answer? Seriously, it is two percent. As in 98% less than 100% Obviously they are outsized economically in Iowa and lots of tiny towns, including the one my folks and brother live in, are there only because of ag. weird segue, but if you are an agorophobe who works remotely and is interested in having an outsized political voice (sup, fellow cspammers) move to rural iowa. My brother is deadass broke, so I'm selling him my 3 br 2 ba home with a fireplace on contract (monthly payments to me and he'll own it, deed in hand, for like $18,000 in five years. My property taxes when I lived there were like $250/year. It is the same way I bought the place when I was deadass broke. Just browse craigslist real estate for "sell on contract." Now I'm paying $1,900/month for a rental like a rube because my wife "loves and misses her immediate family"  so we moved back to new england. anyhoo, that's already too long and i always go long in this thread when ag comes up
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May 1, 2019 21:44
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During Ride Across Wisconsin last year I found myself riding with Sven Nys (Belgian cyclocross world champion) and we were shooting the poo poo as we were riding along country roads surrounded by like a million sq acres of corn. He couldn't grasp why in the living gently caress we needed this much corn, and I sure as gently caress couldn't come up with an answer.
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May 1, 2019 22:04
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:During Ride Across Wisconsin last year I found myself riding with Sven Nys (Belgian cyclocross world champion) and we were shooting the poo poo as we were riding along country roads surrounded by like a million sq acres of corn. He couldn't grasp why in the living gently caress we needed this much corn, and I sure as gently caress couldn't come up with an answer. Dont we make gasoline out of it? So that we can continue a lifestyle of using inefficient single transport that enriches some companies?
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May 1, 2019 22:06
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Because Republicans are loving stupid, we need the government to subsidize sugar production, so that we can make lots of cheap sugar, so Democrats can propose fixing the problem by taxing consumers who buy sugar, because Democrats are loving stupid.
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May 1, 2019 22:07
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:During Ride Across Wisconsin last year I found myself riding with Sven Nys (Belgian cyclocross world champion) and we were shooting the poo poo as we were riding along country roads surrounded by like a million sq acres of corn. He couldn't grasp why in the living gently caress we needed this much corn, and I sure as gently caress couldn't come up with an answer.
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May 1, 2019 22:07
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:During Ride Across Wisconsin last year I found myself riding with Sven Nys (Belgian cyclocross world champion) and we were shooting the poo poo as we were riding along country roads surrounded by like a million sq acres of corn. He couldn't grasp why in the living gently caress we needed this much corn, and I sure as gently caress couldn't come up with an answer. it goes into factories and gets turned into a bunch of consumer products, most notably a liquid sweetener it can also be turned into a biofuel at a significant loss of energy inputs
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May 1, 2019 22:07
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Well now I'll know what to tell him if I see him this year "We turn all this into nothing that is good for you"
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May 1, 2019 22:11
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:During Ride Across Wisconsin last year I found myself riding with Sven Nys (Belgian cyclocross world champion) and we were shooting the poo poo as we were riding along country roads surrounded by like a million sq acres of corn. He couldn't grasp why in the living gently caress we needed this much corn, and I sure as gently caress couldn't come up with an answer. A large portion of it is what's known as feed corn. It gets fed to other animals (including your dog and cat food) or as others said turned into corn syrup.
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May 1, 2019 22:14
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There was an old writing from 100 or 200 years ago that the diet of the South was corn and pork, but the pigs were fed with corn so the diet was basically just corn in different forms anyway.
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May 1, 2019 22:21
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pseudanonymous posted:Dont we make gasoline out of it? So that we can continue a lifestyle of using inefficient single transport that enriches some companies? yeah, the renewable fuel standard law turns a lot of corn into ethyl alcohol. not for good poo poo like whiskey, but to keep grain prices higher for grassley's iowa constituents to the chagrin of lawmakers from oil states like the zodiak killer who campaigned in Iowa against the RFS. A ton of it goes into animal feed here and abroad. NAFTA basically imploded Mexico's grain industry because mechanized factory farms made American grain cheaper than homegrown. The corn grown in the midwest isnt eaten by people. It is eaten by the stuff that people eat like pigs and cows. Because Iowa grows a shitton of corn and the state legislature will turn every iowan into a toxic avenger before they say no to ag interests, something like 50 million pigs are raised in the state yearly. It smells like actual, literal poo poo in a lot of places, though is much better than 25 years ago. Pigs produce 11 pounds (about 5kg for our non american friends) of poo poo everyday. For comparison, if every pig in Iowa disappeared today, but the state really, really wanted to keep up with feces production, Iowa would need to have a population of over 140 million people. Lmao my former state is basically a crime against nature. Why do they get to go first?
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Pay attention to these pig poo poo facts, it might be on Jeopardy one day. I always laughed how city people have a glamorous view of life on the farm.
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oh, iowa state university estimates that trumps tariffs in Iowa alone have cost farmers around $2.2 billion. Farmers are 2% of the states workers. I dont feel like doing the math on that, but those trump supporters are indeed being owned
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Eat This Glob posted:oh, iowa state university estimates that trumps tariffs in Iowa alone have cost farmers around $2.2 billion. Farmers are 2% of the states workers. I dont feel like doing the math on that, but those trump supporters are indeed being owned I like how they act like those monks beating themselves senseless in Monty Python. If we suffer enough things will get better, it's all for a good cause!
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Eat This Glob posted:oh, iowa state university estimates that trumps tariffs in Iowa alone have cost farmers around $2.2 billion. Farmers are 2% of the states workers. I dont feel like doing the math on that, but those trump supporters are indeed being owned being owned to own the libs Trump 2020
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etalian posted:I like how they act like those monks beating themselves senseless in Monty Python. i believe they have shifted from "pain now but no pain later" to "maybe the pain will stop eventually"
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May 1, 2019 22:32
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etalian posted:Pay attention to these pig poo poo facts, it might be on Jeopardy one day. Modern farming practices are nothing at all like the folksie TV farm that people imagine they are. People imagine it's something like a homestead with a surplus to sell on rather than lakes full of pig poo poo that suffocate you to death with their noxious gasses.
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Eat This Glob posted:oh, iowa state university estimates that trumps tariffs in Iowa alone have cost farmers around $2.2 billion. Farmers are 2% of the states workers. I dont feel like doing the math on that, but those trump supporters are indeed being owned It's like the citizens of Las Vegas voting in droves for a mayoral candidate who promises to make gambling illegal inside city limits.
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etalian posted:Pay attention to these pig poo poo facts, it might be on Jeopardy one day. It sucks balls. I was a "city kid" but being poor i would do stuff like walk soybean fields and pickup rocks. It isnt a thing that's done anymore but farmers used to put whole corncobs into a slatted open air bin to dry and they'd shell the corn and bring it to market once prices were higher. anyhoo, if you have a rodent phobia  please stop readingWell, I did that one day. It was 1998 or so. With a drivers license soon in my future, I jumped at the opportunity to earn $15/hour or whatever. What you do is go into the slatted building and shovel corncobs onto a conveyer belt. However, you MUST tuck your jeans into your boots because you're not just shoveling corn, you're also disturbing hundreds of rats who are holed up there in a never ending buffet and a place that's warmer than outside. I will never forget the sea of rodents that hauled rear end over my feet and up my but not my pant leg once we started shoveling. it was unforgettable, as was the joy on the rottweiler named zima (1998, after all) catching the fleeing rats in his mouth to chomp, shake, and toss until he could maul his next victim. He claimed somewhere close to 20 rat carcasses that day. Not too shabby since they were hauling rear end out of the corn crib as fast as they could. Farm life, folks
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FMguru posted:It's like the citizens of Las Vegas voting in droves for a mayoral candidate who promises to make gambling illegal inside city limits. 100%. Grassley is actually due at the White House soon to yell at trump again about tariffs. I cant wait for the next round of ny times articles talking to farmers and they're acting like the "this is ok" dog for another 4 years lol
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jobson groeth posted:Modern farming practices are nothing at all like the folksie TV farm that people imagine they are. People imagine it's something like a homestead with a surplus to sell on rather than lakes full of pig poo poo that suffocate you to death with their noxious gasses. there's a pig poo poo farm I bike by sometimes that usually I'm like "gently caress that stinks" but it's survivable but on one ride last year it was loving noxious, like you could taste it. Had to ride holding my breath for at least 1/10 of a mile. There's a intersecting road right across from it with houses on it that the owners would be better off burning them to the ground for the insurance money because there's no way in a million years (or the 10 we have left on this cursed orb) they'd be able to sell them.
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jobson groeth posted:Modern farming practices are nothing at all like the folksie TV farm that people imagine they are. People imagine it's something like a homestead with a surplus to sell on rather than lakes full of pig poo poo that suffocate you to death with their noxious gasses. Sometimes the methane catches fire and you end up with exploding fireballs of liquid pigshit
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jobson groeth posted:Modern farming practices are nothing at all like the folksie TV farm that people imagine they are. People imagine it's something like a homestead with a surplus to sell on rather than lakes full of pig poo poo that suffocate you to death with their noxious gasses. It's basically like Isengard fly-through scene in Lord of the Rings.
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Don't read this right before dinner. The most striking thing about it is that it's perfectly legal for these huge pig farms to spray liquid pig poo poo into the air until it atomizes and drifts over the countryside as a cloud of poisonous gas. You apparently have no legal recourse if your home is so awash in pig poo poo gas that it regularly knocks you unconscious and your home permanently reeks of pig poo poo.
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