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Fister Roboto posted:-Sephirot: you need two people for towers, but you might be able to survive failing them From my experience farming him for his unique item to make my sweet SAM sword you can survive failing the towers but you need like, 5-6 people for Da'at. Under the orange debuff it does like half a million damage and I remember a few times trying to 4 man it where he simply gave everyone orange and we were screwed. Also IIRC the tower's don't go through HG but Da'at does.
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Love that the lesson we took from media analysis was that all things must be assumed to be their worst possible interpretation, that's not exhausting or undialectic at all or anything
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Is this board so humorless and joyless than one can't make light in the face of a tragedy or think that two characters seem cute together? Geezus.TooManyUzukis posted:Love that the lesson we took from media analysis was that all things must be assumed to be their worst possible interpretation, that's not exhausting or undialectic at all or anything Of the love of-. Being critical of media doesn't mean condemning it. Vauthry made me feel, personally, uncomfortable. From the way you've all described how the rest of his story plays out, it seems at least the writers had good intentions, I just don't think those good intentions automatically negate any potential problems. A work can have issues with itself and still be enjoyable, every single writer who's ever lived struggles with things kind of thing at some point. Going "this one thing feels bad and I don't like it" doesn't mean I'm ready to harangue the writers for being the most insensitive people who were ever insensitive. I just like the way the character is used is a bit insulting, and that's it. It's not the first or last time that this will happen about some matter or other in this game. But the writers have shown their ability to learn from it, as shown from the game making a big joke out of Hildibrand in a dress several years ago to Yoshi-P saying he wants to make the game more welcoming to trans people. That's what really matters; a willingness to listen, and this dev team seems to be well prepared for that sort of thing. Nodosaur fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Jul 6, 2019 |
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Violently Car posted:probably post ShB IIRC what actually happened is that the Blessing of Light basically got spent entirely preventing you from being vaporized by Ultima during Praetorium. The Ascians noticed this eventually and Nabreales got the bright idea that this meant you were easy pickings, but it didn't turn out well for him. Middy actually becomes your patron as part of a deal Hydaelin, watching your back and regaining some power for himself via your connection to the crystal mom until she recovered enough to restore the Blessing. He can do that because he's absurdly powerful and has an understanding with Hydaelin since ancient times when she offered him and his kids shelter from Omega.
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Thundarr posted:IIRC what actually happened is that the Blessing of Light basically got spent entirely preventing you from being vaporized by Ultima during Praetorium. The Ascians noticed this eventually and Nabreales got the bright idea that this meant you were easy pickings, but it didn't turn out well for him. I don't think this is what happens because Nabriales notes you lost the Blessing of Light almost immediately after your encounter with Midgardsormr. This seems to imply it was stripped at the Keeper of the Lake and not before. The encounter with Ultima Weapon is where it starts being implied that Hydaelyn is losing power, however.
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I might have mixed up the order of events. Either way it was less of a hostile act and more of an arrangement of convenience for both parties (not including WoL who didn't really get a say in it).
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Midgardsormr consumed the power of your blessing, with Hydaelyn's consent, to reconstruct his tiny-mode corporeal form, and you regenerated that power over the course of Heavensward until it was active again.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:They were lesbians, Harold. FF14 Shadowbringers: They were lesbians, Harold.
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Jul 6, 2019 23:09
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Man, the last dungeon is really cool. You spend the whole expansion facing off against these angelic looking holy monsters, then you get to the end and suddenly have to deal with this loving living nightmares.
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Rhonne posted:Man, the last dungeon is really cool. You spend the whole expansion facing off against these angelic looking holy monsters, then you get to the end and suddenly have to deal with this loving living nightmares. Now you get to join the beauty that is the EXR dungeons  Need that Twinning orchestrion roll. I didn't think eScape could get better but goddamn I underestimated Square
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Magil Zeal posted:I don't think this is what happens because Nabriales notes you lost the Blessing of Light almost immediately after your encounter with Midgardsormr. This seems to imply it was stripped at the Keeper of the Lake and not before. The encounter with Ultima Weapon is where it starts being implied that Hydaelyn is losing power, however. Midgardsormr takes what little power you have left in your blessing and turns it into a body for himself, then over the course of heavansward we sort of refill the blessing with our own power.
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SirSamVimes posted:Also him being fat represents the excess of his rule of Eulmore. While the poor are practically starving when Meol isn't being provided to him, he is able to live in such luxury that he has enough to eat to get himself to such a size. It's this. He's not evil because he is fat. He is not bad because he is fat. The game is showing that "look how these people can eat so much that they are able to be fat while others starve" Rand Brittain posted:Yeah, Vauthry eventually even starts using some of Trump's vocal tics. 
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Axel Serenity posted:Now you get to join the beauty that is the EXR dungeons Twinning was a real treat. Loved going back to the Crystal Tower. Did the Garlond Ironworks really build their own mini-Alexander?
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They really need to advertise in some way that Arm's Length is a tank cooldown now. I had no idea until I read it in this thread.
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Rhonne posted:Twinning was a real treat. Loved going back to the Crystal Tower. Did the Garlond Ironworks really build their own mini-Alexander? FutureCid and FutureBiggs got real good at their jobs.
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Rhonne posted:Twinning was a real treat. Loved going back to the Crystal Tower. Did the Garlond Ironworks really build their own mini-Alexander? Not just alexander, alexander mixed with omega.
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Rhonne posted:Twinning was a real treat. Loved going back to the Crystal Tower. Did the Garlond Ironworks really build their own mini-Alexander? yup. its amazing.
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Nodosaur posted:Vauthry made me feel, personally, uncomfortable. So? Good media can do that? I've watched plenty of films that have made me, personally, uncomfortable because they discuss something that is personal to me. I'm not saying it is bad to be offended by something or no one is allowed to be offended. I'm also not saying that we can't critically analyze media. Hell, I have a masters degree in an artistic field. I've done hundreds of hours of artistic analysis. I am saying that just because something makes you uncomfortable does immediately mean it is bad and wrong.
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Okay. That's still just pretty much only the introduction to what I was saying, and I laid it out further in following posts, so... why are you only responding to only part of my message?
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Nodosaur posted:Anyway, Alisaie can add Dead Girlfriend to the list of tropes associated with her own hero's journey now, I guess. I'm sorry, what?
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Nodosaur posted:Okay. That's still just pretty much only the introduction to what I was saying, and I laid it out further in following posts, so... why are you only responding to only part of my message? I have a sincere question for you because I am genuinely curious - can you name me a piece of media, be it game, tv show, or film, that has a fat antagonist that you think the media handled well?
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:I'm sorry, what? Alisaie's into blondes.
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Mordiceius posted:I have a sincere question for you because I am genuinely curious - can you name me a piece of media, be it game, tv show, or film, that has a fat antagonist that you think the media handled well? Dr. Ivo Robotnik, in the games. Aside from a visual motif informing his supervillain name, he's rarely disparaged regarding his weight even by the heroes, and is shown to be physically capable in multiple sports spinoff titles. US Media and localizations tend to lean into the whole fat jokes thing, unfortunately.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Alisaie's into blondes. And the WoL.
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Nodosaur posted:Dr. Ivo Robotnik, in the games. Aside from a visual motif informing his supervillain name, he's rarely disparaged regarding his weight even by the heroes, and is shown to be physically capable in multiple sports spinoff titles. The Sonic games also have about as much story as a Mario game, which is to say, hardly any. There is no media with actual stories that have fat characters with antagonist that you find handle it well?
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Your Computer posted:I just got through all of the Alexander raids for the first time (put it off because the queues were terrible, now they're really quick even as a DPS!) and that was awesome It's definitely the music that finally convinced me to sub. Holy crap I can't wait to get to some of that content. But I'm enjoying the story thus far.
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I can't believe I used to think the FFXIV raid songs with lyrics and stuff were dumb, because everything I've done post-ARR has been incredibly awesome and fun. I've still got forward and back and then forward and back and then... stuck in my brain. I know this is real old news to everyone else but I'm having such a blast seeing all this stuff for the first time 
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So I gave into the urge to start playing ShB on my laptop, and this whole setting is very compelling and has a great "atmosphere." I also really like the WoD showing up again, since they were one of the more interesting characters to show up. You really get the impression that there's a lot of passion involved in the making of this game. edit: I've also been completing the job quests for all my DoH jobs, which are all 70 but not fully "quested." On the upside, it's free xp! Got a couple to 71 off of them. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Jul 7, 2019 |
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Mordiceius posted:I have a sincere question for you because I am genuinely curious - can you name me a piece of media, be it game, tv show, or film, that has a fat antagonist that you think the media handled well? Daredevil season one, the Kingpin.
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maybe a giant fat bald character that acts like a baby isnt a personal attack on you but is instead a representation of..... a big baby
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Heard great things about the story, so I downloaded the demo today and played a lancer for a few hours. This game is gorgeous! I've been playing a WoW private server waiting for the classic release, but I'm gonna sub and play this for a couple months instead. When you change classes, do you become weak and have to go back to killing low level mobs? This is an alien concept to me. Also, should I buy the game from SE rather than steam?
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Okay Titania's theme is godlike.
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Fun Times! posted:Heard great things about the story, so I downloaded the demo today and played a lancer for a few hours. This game is gorgeous! I've been playing a WoW private server waiting for the classic release, but I'm gonna sub and play this for a couple months instead. The available starting classes (and Rogue/Ninja) all start from level 1, so you have to go back to that level when you switch to them. However, there are other jobs that start at 30, 50, or 60 that can be unlocked eventually. Also buy from SE because if you buy from Steam you're locked into buying future expansions from Steam as well.
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Cythereal posted:Daredevil season one, the Kingpin. The kingpin isn't fat, all of it is muscle
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Arist posted:The available starting classes (and Rogue/Ninja) all start from level 1, so you have to go back to that level when you switch to them. However, there are other jobs that start at 30, 50, or 60 that can be unlocked eventually. Okay, so is the leveling process really quick per class? It seems most people level many classes to max. How long does it take?
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MSQ ending spoilers: DRK can get hosed, WAR actually the hero job this expansion. Tomahawk OP.
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Blast of Confetti posted:maybe a giant fat bald character that acts like a baby isnt a personal attack on you but is instead a representation of..... a big baby as a fat person i see a lot of myself in the character that throws tantrums, eats, looks like a baby, poops his diaper, and posts on something awful. and it's sickening. physical illness overtakes me
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It's not that quick, but you do get a significant experience bonus when you're leveling a job that isn't your highest leveled.
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