Star Citizen: Death of a Space Thread?

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I said come in!: Jun 22, 2004

Beet Wagon posted:

Nah they're not grayed out any more. But they're not super intrusive, and you can click a little arrow so it only shows you the icons and not the names.

loving Warcraft III Reforge when?

# ? Jul 30, 2019 03:41

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# ? May 22, 2024 04:35

Pilz: Jul 25, 2016; Grimey Drawer

Sanya Juutilainen posted:

Having tried all of those, I have to disagree. Even if Steam is terrible (mostly from getting obsolete UI-wise), Origin, uPlay and others are even more terrible (I don't know how they manage to do it, tbh). The only decent store launchers (not talking about single-game stuff like Elite's launcher, though that one has its own problems as well) I can think of are Battle.net and WG launcher at the moment, and even those I uninstall instantly when I am taking breaks from their games. Though to be honest, maybe uPlay and origin improved their functionality lately (hahaha, I doubt that).

To me, an info about free game on uPlay / Origin / Epic / few more stores just means I won't get it. It's just not worth getting extra bloatware into the PC.

Used uPlay the other day. A friend got into the Ghost Recon: Breakpoint technical test, and got to invite 3 friends. Receiving the invite was done through the website, not the launcher. IIRC he had to link me to a specific webpage so I could long in to my launcher account to agree to the ToS. They couldn't do this through the launcher because of reasons. I'm also not sure you can buy games through the launcher. The overlay, from what I've experienced in R6S, functions, except that you access weekly missions through the launcher and they don't tell you that. I'm not sure why it's through the overlay. Basically uPlay doesn't have a reason to exist for me, the consumer, as all it does is mimic Steam badly.

# ? Jul 30, 2019 03:57

Zaphod42: Sep 13, 2012; If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

I said come in! posted:

loving Warcraft III Reforge when?

For real yo, I gotta get my enfos on

# ? Jul 30, 2019 04:01

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

Zaphod42 posted:

The most intense debate lol

Comeon Beet, its been an ongoing conversation and now we're discussing that launcher since you brought it up. Its not really a debate.

debate was the wrong word for sure, but I really wanted to call you guys dorks and it was all I had :shrug:

I said come in! posted:

loving Warcraft III Reforge when?

I actually don't know but I super want it cause I bought W3 when they released the digital one a while ago and none of the loving cinematics play no matter what I do and it's infuriating.

# ? Jul 30, 2019 04:38

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

Pilz posted:

Used uPlay the other day. A friend got into the Ghost Recon: Breakpoint technical test, and got to invite 3 friends. Receiving the invite was done through the website, not the launcher. IIRC he had to link me to a specific webpage so I could long in to my launcher account to agree to the ToS. They couldn't do this through the launcher because of reasons. I'm also not sure you can buy games through the launcher. The overlay, from what I've experienced in R6S, functions, except that you access weekly missions through the launcher and they don't tell you that. I'm not sure why it's through the overlay. Basically uPlay doesn't have a reason to exist for me, the consumer, as all it does is mimic Steam badly.

Your story reminded me of the only time I've ever been mad at a game 'launcher' lol

Fuckin' Battlefield man. "Hey what if they had to go to our website every time they wanted to make a party and play with their friends?"

# ? Jul 30, 2019 04:44

AbstractNapper: Jun 5, 2011; I can help

Pilz posted:

Used uPlay the other day. A friend got into the Ghost Recon: Breakpoint technical test, and got to invite 3 friends. Receiving the invite was done through the website, not the launcher. IIRC he had to link me to a specific webpage so I could long in to my launcher account to agree to the ToS. They couldn't do this through the launcher because of reasons. I'm also not sure you can buy games through the launcher. The overlay, from what I've experienced in R6S, functions, except that you access weekly missions through the launcher and they don't tell you that. I'm not sure why it's through the overlay. Basically uPlay doesn't have a reason to exist for me, the consumer, as all it does is mimic Steam badly.

Marginally related, but I fail to understand the purpose of Rockstar Social Club (if that even is still a thing). Or alternatively, I hate Rockstar Social Club's existence to its core.
I remember trying to install and play Max Payne 3 (via Steam) for the first time was a particularly horrible experience. It felt like an hour or more of downloading updates and creating online accounts and failing to sign in for some reason and also having to sign in in subsequent launches because it wouldn't remember my credentials (...).

# ? Jul 30, 2019 04:53

Jobbo_Fett: Mar 7, 2014; Slava Ukrayini; Clapping Larry

Beet Wagon posted:

Your story reminded me of the only time I've ever been mad at a game 'launcher' lol

Fuckin' Battlefield man. "Hey what if they had to go to our website every time they wanted to make a party and play with their friends?"

gently caress me man, that was the dumbest strategy I've ever seen someone pull off and roll with for like 2 sequels. How loving stupid were the execs to do that poo poo? Especially back when PC specs were worse, Chrome didn't exist, and firefox had a loving memory leak allthe drat time.

# ? Jul 30, 2019 04:55

Sandweed: Sep 7, 2006; All your friends are me.

The Battlelog was loving amazing because DICE can't program a ingame server browser even if their lives depended on it.

Hooah!

# ? Jul 30, 2019 05:00

Jobbo_Fett: Mar 7, 2014; Slava Ukrayini; Clapping Larry

More lile sandweeb

# ? Jul 30, 2019 05:01

AbstractNapper: Jun 5, 2011; I can help

Sarsapariller posted:

An excellent thread:

What happened to the damage model we were shown in 2015?

100% authoritative Citizen answers include:

* It is in the game
* It is not in the game but it is coming
* It's in the game but they toned it down because the original was too much work
* It's on the roadmap for Q4
* It is in the game but it only works for some ships
* It is in the game but it only works on some servers
* It is in the game but the damage on weapons is much lower than in the demo
* It's totally in the game and it happened to me yesterday

Whatever the answer is, some things are for certain: It's not Chris Roberts' fault, Citizens are 100% happy with the state that it's in, and they definitely have a good grasp of what is going on with development. If you disagree you are a FUDster troll and you must be downvoted.

It's either that Citizens are themselves confused or what's left of their community is a pack of squids. Someone asks a question about missing features and they all create a thick fog of ink before running to hide in the safety of their ~dreams~. Leaving the person asking the question disoriented and confused.

# ? Jul 30, 2019 05:04

Zaphod42: Sep 13, 2012; If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Beet Wagon posted:

debate was the wrong word for sure, but I really wanted to call you guys dorks and it was all I had

We are most definitely all dorks in this thread, haha

Beet Wagon posted:

Your story reminded me of the only time I've ever been mad at a game 'launcher' lol

Fuckin' Battlefield man. "Hey what if they had to go to our website every time they wanted to make a party and play with their friends?"

Battlefield Facebook pissed me off so much. Ugh.

"Can I please just have a loving .exe to play my game? :cry:

# ? Jul 30, 2019 05:29

skeletors_condom: Jul 21, 2017

Scruffpuff posted:

I didn't go there to buy those things, but there they are anyway. Like it or not, agree with it or not, but we're here now. It's not going to revert. Companies don't care about you; they care about your money. As long as the economy is driven by the lowest-common-denominator consumer, we're gonna have baited hooks in our faces. Which means forever.

If you're visiting NYC, you can pick where to go. You pay for the tickets/hotel/food/transport and you decide what to experience. Even mainstream NYC attractions like MOMA don't have overbearing ads. There is lots of stuff to see in NYC other than times square. It's all up to you.

I paid for SC2 and it's expansions, I did not pay for mandatory spam to access a product I paid for.

And in general, I disagree with the notion that "this is how it has to be." It's all about the right incentives (or disincentives). Mind you, I am not specifically referring to launchers and/or video games; it's more about the principle. BattleNet launcher being full of adware is not a big deal.

# ? Jul 30, 2019 05:58

Flared Basic Bitch: Feb 22, 2005; Invading your personal space since 1968.

Jesus Christ CIG do something dumb and for god�s sake do it soon.

# ? Jul 30, 2019 06:32

Baxta: Feb 18, 2004; Needs More Pirate

Beet Wagon posted:

Your story reminded me of the only time I've ever been mad at a game 'launcher' lol

Fuckin' Battlefield man. "Hey what if they had to go to our website every time they wanted to make a party and play with their friends?"

I'd forgotten how annoying that was.

I have a grand total of 11 hours played across all battlefield games with the exception of 1942 which was cool and good.

# ? Jul 30, 2019 06:35

Thoatse: Feb 29, 2016; Lol said the scorpion, lmao

# ? Jul 30, 2019 07:06

Kosumo: Apr 9, 2016

Due to the paddle in the above picture, I'm assured that doggo does not work for CIG.

# ? Jul 30, 2019 08:02

his nibs: Feb 27, 2016; Welcome to the
Dream Factory; Grimey Drawer

Kosumo posted:

Due to the paddle in the above picture, I'm assured that doggo does not work for CIG.

# ? Jul 30, 2019 08:07

MedicineHut: Feb 25, 2016

Mirificus posted:

As far as I know Digital Anvil only really sold one game prior to Freelancer: Starlancer. And there is no clear evidence suggesting the game was even commercially successful.

# ? Jul 30, 2019 08:41

Ramadu: Aug 25, 2004; 2015 NFL MVP

it owns that only the grandpas in this thread are the only people on the internet defending epic other than the obvious paid reddit shills

# ? Jul 30, 2019 09:21

Ghostlight: Sep 25, 2009; maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me

Can't believe this FUD factory has shills in it.

# ? Jul 30, 2019 09:25

Sanya Juutilainen: Jun 19, 2019; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

skeletors_condom posted:

(...) BattleNet launcher being full of adware is not a big deal.

Tbh I am not sure it's even adware, since it doesn't generate revenue like usual ads - no money for display, no money for click, it installs with your knowledge.

Yes, I know I am being anal about this, what can you do.

# ? Jul 30, 2019 09:25

Sandepande: Aug 19, 2018

peter gabriel posted:

All game launchers / stores are great

# ? Jul 30, 2019 11:05

Bofast: Feb 21, 2011; Grimey Drawer

MedicineHut posted:

As far as I know Digital Anvil only really sold one game prior to Freelancer: Starlancer. And there is no clear evidence suggesting the game was even commercially successful.

Only thing I can find about it is a magazine reference on Wikipedia stating that Starlancer sold around 400k copies (compared to Wing Commander 3 selling above 700k and Wing Commander 4 barely breaking even with just above 200k copies sold). I expect it made a small profit but that's it.

# ? Jul 30, 2019 11:19

Sanya Juutilainen: Jun 19, 2019; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

I believe a door upgrade is overdue.

No, not the in-game door. Who cares about those. The other door: https://twitter.com/xKuonn/status/1155762834854166528?s=20

# ? Jul 30, 2019 11:26

Agony Aunt: Apr 17, 2018; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Flared Basic Bitch posted:

Jesus Christ CIG do something dumb and for god�s sake do it soon.

Not long till CitizenCON. Always good for some laughs.

# ? Jul 30, 2019 11:32

Experimental Skin: Apr 16, 2016

Scruffpuff posted:

A good example is that I just got GTA 5. The game released in 2013, I waited until 2019 to buy it. I got it for 15 bucks, it includes everything, I can play the single-player game and it runs great, and I can play the online version in a solo session and just gently caress around casually and not give one flying gently caress about a single thing in their online store.

It's the way to go.

If 6 years seems like a long time to wait for a game may I refer you to a little-known project called Star Citizen.

# ? Jul 30, 2019 11:34

Baxta: Feb 18, 2004; Needs More Pirate

Experimental Skin posted:

Mods? Spoiler that poo poo man.

# ? Jul 30, 2019 12:29

Experimental Skin: Apr 16, 2016

Baxta posted:

Mods? Spoiler that poo poo man.

My bad

I figured it was free now, everyone would have.

# ? Jul 30, 2019 14:09

Flared Basic Bitch: Feb 22, 2005; Invading your personal space since 1968.

Ramadu posted:

it owns that only the grandpas in this thread are the only people on the internet defending epic other than the obvious paid reddit shills

Finally a voice of reason.

# ? Jul 30, 2019 14:36

Sandweed: Sep 7, 2006; All your friends are me.

Ramadu posted:

it owns that only the grandpas in this thread are the only people on the internet defending epic other than the obvious paid reddit shills

It's more that gamers are little babys that complain unimportant poo poo, and it's good to make fun of them for that.

# ? Jul 30, 2019 14:38

Hav: Dec 11, 2009; Fun Shoe

Experimental Skin posted:

My bad I figured it was free now, everyone would have.

Waiting for it to hit Epic.

# ? Jul 30, 2019 14:38

Flared Basic Bitch: Feb 22, 2005; Invading your personal space since 1968.

Agony Aunt posted:

Not long till CitizenCON. Always good for some laughs.

drat seems like they just did one of those. I started reading this thread in... 2016 maybe, and I was sure we�d get at most a year or two before this dumb game ended one way or another. But whelp here we are.

# ? Jul 30, 2019 14:44

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Beet Wagon posted:

I can't believe I made a joke about being mad at a launcher that is incredibly straightforward and presents your games to you immediately and you dorks are now actually debating whether to be mad at it or not

I have extremely powerful opinions about the intermediary I buy my games from. Let me tell you about having to download 2 gigs to add 100 cards to hearthstone :argh:

Learn from CIG you Blizzard hacks. Where is the delta updater you fuckos!

# ? Jul 30, 2019 14:47

Liquid Dinosaur: Dec 16, 2011; by Smythe

Gamers are scum, but I think that within the context of "things that don't actually matter," it's okay to be disappointed in a company busting onto the market by buying out anticipated games and putting them behind their storefront. Oh, and the storefront is complete dogshit even though all they had to do was literally steal everything from Steam, except hire like 2 people to check all incoming games to screen out all the Unity asset flips and hentai.

# ? Jul 30, 2019 14:48

Asmodai_00: Nov 26, 2007

Liquid Dinosaur posted:

Gamers are scum, but I think that within the context of "things that don't actually matter," it's okay to be disappointed in a company busting onto the market by buying out anticipated games and putting them behind their storefront. Oh, and the storefront is complete dogshit even though all they had to do was literally steal everything from Steam, except hire like 2 people to check all incoming games to screen out all the Unity asset flips and hentai.

# ? Jul 30, 2019 14:50

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

I'm loving confused right now. What should I be mad at?

# ? Jul 30, 2019 14:53

Sanya Juutilainen: Jun 19, 2019; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Liquid Dinosaur posted:

Gamers are scum, but I think that within the context of "things that don't actually matter," it's okay to be disappointed in a company busting onto the market by buying out anticipated games and putting them behind their storefront. Oh, and the storefront is complete dogshit even though all they had to do was literally steal everything from Steam, except hire like 2 people to check all incoming games to screen out all the Unity asset flips and hentai.

I'll let you know hentai is an art! Art, you see! We can hate on unity asset flips, though. Unless they are hentai, you can always asset flip hentai, because art.

Wait, what were we talking about? Star Critizen?

# ? Jul 30, 2019 15:02