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Sodomy Hussein posted:It's complicated and doesn't come up much because Goldberg only did 31 episodes as essentially a one-scene-per-episode guest character in most cases. But Guinan is at least 500 years old and is basically the Star Trek version of Gandalf, which is to say she has magical powers but maintains limitations on their use out of ethics/divine mandate, and most of her super power is Good Advice. I think Guinan is my favorite part of TNG. No matter what Whoopi does or says for good or for bad, I will always remember and love her as Guinan. Pure, good, mysterious, writers-had-no-idea-what-her-deal-actually-is, Guinan. Edit: if you really think about it, she's the one right in the front of the ship. She's got the biggest bank of windows right at the tip of the saucer, while the bridge has a TV and a skylight. She's right there, man, first one anywhere they go.
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happyhippy posted:Was just watching 'I, Borg' there, and Guinan talks with Hugh saying how the Borg wiped them out. The Q Continuum is basically an extradimensional plane of existence. I have a feeling the Borg might have trouble finding the Continuum.
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Aug 4, 2019 00:30
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The Borg didn't have much problems finding Fluidic Space though, but they did get their asses handed to them courtesy of Species 8472 when they tried to invade. The Q Continuum is a different matter, and would probably be defended by a single Q who snaps his fingers and reduces the Borg Invasion Fleet to the size of Cheerios and proceeds to wipe them out with a croquet mallet.
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Aug 4, 2019 00:49
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8472 are just normal but advanced aliens from an alternate dimension. There's no reason to believe that at the first signs of getting uppity a Q couldn't instantly erase all Borg, everywhere.
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Aug 4, 2019 00:55
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Wasn't there some dumb comic or something where there was a risk of them assimilating a Q?
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Aug 4, 2019 00:58
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In some Voyager episode Q told Q "don't antagonize the borg". I don't remember it being clear if Q was worried they'd cause a ruckus among other lesser species, or if was fear though.
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Aug 4, 2019 01:20
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Astroman posted:Her Gandalfness is somewhat muted when we meet another member of her species who is an obsessed rear end in a top hat. Well I mean...every other wizard in LOTR is an rear end in a top hat too
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Aug 4, 2019 01:31
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While Worf is particularly wrong in Darmok it is ultimately Riker who fucks everything up for everyone. Every decision he makes takes the situation closer to catastrophy. The Alien Captain would be alive if not for him. It would be in character for him in Season 1, where he's shown to be impulive and very protective of his Captain, but this is in Season 5; he's got his beard now and really should know better.
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Aug 4, 2019 02:04
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Riker is not a great leader. Jellico‘s critique of him is fair, he’s too buddy buddy with his crew and is prone to complacency and letting poo poo slide.
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Aug 4, 2019 02:09
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It's pretty hosed up that 99% of the ships in Starfleet have an Earth based name.
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Aug 4, 2019 02:11
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The writers should apologize to non-human fans of the show.
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Aug 4, 2019 02:12
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:It's pretty hosed up that 99% of the ships in Starfleet have an Earth based name. I don’t see the Vulcans or Andorians building any ships at Utopia Planitia!
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Aug 4, 2019 02:13
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They should have Guinan turn up in the next season of Discovery. It seems plausible that she could have aged as much as Whoopi has in the 900 years or whatever that’s passed.
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Aug 4, 2019 02:56
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:It's pretty hosed up that 99% of the ships in Starfleet have an Earth based name. More like 66% Gotta follow the triad name drop scheme to get such ships as USS Galileo, USS Copernicus, and USS fth'Pxcztlxy of Beta Secundus II.
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Aug 4, 2019 03:00
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I just assume the Guinan’s race could stand with the Q because most of the time Q’s just mildly gently caress with their chosen tormentee and Guinan’s race managed to convince every Q that came along they’re doing the wrong thing with a good ear and some gentle advice.
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Aug 4, 2019 03:03
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Astroman posted:Her Gandalfness is somewhat muted when we meet another member of her species who is an obsessed rear end in a top hat. That was definitely a misstep, as was Sore(a?)n imo.
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Arglebargle III posted:The writers should apologize to non-human fans of the show. You joke, but given the fandom...
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Q doesn't seem to have any problem dealing with the Borg. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi2HO5e_oeM It's also possible that while the Borg had some impressive successes, maybe they're not so great at integrating all unique abilities and perspectives from assimilated species. It's not like anyone's doublechecking their work.
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Aug 4, 2019 03:57
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SlothfulCobra posted:Q doesn't seem to have any problem dealing with the Borg. I had heard of this before but never checked it out. At first I was like "yay more TNG!" but ugh even with DeLancie it's loving terrible. Even DeLancie himself is hardly turning in his best performance. I lasted 10 minutes.
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Aug 4, 2019 04:45
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I liked the TNG episode with the versions of the Enterprise popping up from other alternate realities, and when they try to fix the situation the shuttle with the solution gets fired upon and they get hailed by a deranged bedraggled Captain Riker with a massive beard, his bridge badly damaged with cables dangling everywhere and maybe 2 other crew members who's just like "WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING THE BORG FOR 17 YEARS STRAIGHT AND WE'RE ALL DEAD! I'M NOT GOING BACK!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcDjnYxzfss
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Aug 4, 2019 06:52
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BioEnchanted posted:I liked the TNG episode with the versions of the Enterprise popping up from other alternate realities, and when they try to fix the situation the shuttle with the solution gets fired upon and they get hailed by a deranged bedraggled Captain Riker with a massive beard, his bridge badly damaged with cables dangling everywhere and maybe 2 other crew members who's just like "WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING THE BORG FOR 17 YEARS STRAIGHT AND WE'RE ALL DEAD! I'M NOT GOING BACK!" lol at that dumbass wesley using a photoroton torpedo to try and disable a ship. what a rube. how in hell did he ever get a real commission
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Aug 4, 2019 07:06
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BioEnchanted posted:I liked the TNG episode with the versions of the Enterprise popping up from other alternate realities, and when they try to fix the situation the shuttle with the solution gets fired upon and they get hailed by a deranged bedraggled Captain Riker with a massive beard, his bridge badly damaged with cables dangling everywhere and maybe 2 other crew members who's just like "WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING THE BORG FOR 17 YEARS STRAIGHT AND WE'RE ALL DEAD! I'M NOT GOING BACK!" That's one of the very greatest TNG episodes.
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Aug 4, 2019 07:21
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I just love that the ship completely disintegrates after a single photon torpedo gently nudges them. It's so badly hosed they brush it and it completely fails and explodes.
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Aug 4, 2019 07:26
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remember when voyager did the same thing, but worse
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BioEnchanted posted:Ensign Seska is an idiot. That seems to be her entire character. Just Chaotic with not much else going on. This is my Homestuck showing, but Seska is Vriska, like to a T. Setting aside the name for a second, she's an overly confident double-double-double crosser who is constantly disguising split second decisions for her own benefit as elaborate plans she's made, with a baffling crush on someone she hates. Also she's a megabitch.
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Aug 4, 2019 17:23
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Astroman posted:Her Gandalfness is somewhat muted when we meet another member of her species who is an obsessed rear end in a top hat. Isn't the Prince Humperdinck one who gets scammed and opens a casino so he can motorboat dabo girls also an El-Aurian? That's her species right?
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Isn't the Prince Humperdinck one who gets scammed and opens a casino so he can motorboat dabo girls also an El-Aurian? That's her species right? Yep. So, question about Wrath of Khan. Khan says the famous line, "Ah Kirk, my old friend. Do you know the Klingon proverb that tells us revenge is a dish that is best served cold? It is very cold in space." When has Khan been learning Klingon proverbs? He was shot off into space in the 1990s, woken up by Kirk and dumped on an abandoned planet. Did Kirk give him a book of Klingon proverbs to help him pass the time? I mean, of course, in real life, it's a French proverb, so...
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Epicurius posted:Yep.
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Aug 4, 2019 20:16
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Khan absorbed a ridiculous amount of information in Space Seed. Also, Marla McGivers probably told him stuff.
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Epicurius posted:Yep. Are you laughing at the superior intellect???
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Maybe Walter Koenig told him about it
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Zesty posted:That's a cute thought but it can't possibly be true because Enterprise exists. ENT: incel TNG: vocel DS9: in a long term steady deal TOS: outwardly flirtatious but surprisingly chaste JJTREK: legally incapable of giving informed consent
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Hipster_Doofus posted:I had heard of this before but never checked it out. At first I was like "yay more TNG!" but ugh even with DeLancie it's loving terrible. Even DeLancie himself is hardly turning in his best performance. I lasted 10 minutes. Eh, it's a full motion video game from the late 90s. It wasn't bad for the time. I didn't know anyone edited it into a movie though. I'm going to have to watch this later.
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BioEnchanted posted:I just love that the ship completely disintegrates after a single photon torpedo gently nudges them. It's so badly hosed they brush it and it completely fails and explodes. I like how calmly Wesley deals with killing an entire ship full of people. Not that he should panic or break down, but he really doesn't give a poo poo.
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curiousTerminal posted:This is my Homestuck showing, but Seska is Vriska, like to a T. Setting aside the name for a second, she's an overly confident double-double-double crosser who is constantly disguising split second decisions for her own benefit as elaborate plans she's made, with a baffling crush on someone she hates. Also she's a megabitch. You need to read another book (whatever the gently caress) and also not refer to a women as bitches.
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8one6 posted:That's the rumor I've heard but since I was 11 when DS9 was on I can't say if it's true or not. I'm pretty sure it's not true. These threads are the only place I've ever heard that rumour. I've never found any other evidence for it, and I have tried. Basically: Thom12255 posted:I really hope this is a mistake cause Avery's been married to the same person since 1976.
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Zesty posted:You need to read another book (whatever the gently caress) and also not refer to a women as bitches. Yes, sometimes his posts are sexist But you lovely bitches and hoes Should know he's trying to correct this
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lost my old email posted:ENT: incel I would agree except that ds9 is in a poly relationship
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