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Luxury Tent Carpet posted:help me, a dumbass, understand - does this mean that they've officially requested the queen perogue parliament and now we're just waiting on Liz to Activate? That's it in a nutshell, yes.
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We should start rioting now while the shops are full of food
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sexpig by night posted:hey I know as the american with the original big wet fascist I've got the thinnest glass house around me when I say this but still, lol cool system of governance ya got there. The USA constantly jerks itself off that it has the greatest foundational legal document in the history of nation-states, yet it is hilariously broken racist and dumb. The UK neatly circumvents this by having no foundational text whatsoever, and Parliament functions as a result of "this will be fine" enshrined in statutes
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Junior G-man posted:That would be amazing if you did, because then this guy would become the King of England, Prince of Bavaria and (actively ruling) Prince of Liechtenstein if the line of succession held. Why do all Royals look simultaneously 14 and 40 in their 20's? I know the answer is centuries of inbreeding but I need more technical answers.
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Junior G-man posted:Apologies, Duke of Bavaria. I mean they abolished the nobility. constitution of the free state of Bavaria posted:Titles of nobility shall only be considered parts of the name, they may no longer be conferred and can no longer be acquired by adoption It's just a name now brb changing my name to Arch-Marquis of Munich
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sexpig by night posted:so just for clarity with the current state of things, does bojo still have until some time in October to get a brexit deal before the EU just says 'ok gently caress it, hard brexit we're done with this poo poo'? Is that what this scam is, just shut parliament down so there's no choice but 'aw gee the evil EU is FORCING us to do this'? No, the EU's position doesn't change at all. They're pretty much done with this poo poo and waiting to see what emerges from Tzeentch's convoluted schemes across the Channel, but they're not gonna pull the plug early because that wouldn't be legal, and the EU  doing poo poo by the book. The BoJo scheme is to prorogue Parliament past the point of no return, because any extension past Halloween would depend on mutual agreement between the UK government, EU Council and EU Parliament. If the UK government doesn't request an extension, and the Parliament is prorogued so it can't force the government's hand, then the default is the only viable path. And the EU doing poo poo by the book.
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UnlimitedSpessmans posted:We should start rioting now while the shops are full of food We should start rioting now whilst we're still in the loving EU.
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Marxist-Jezzinist posted:I mean they abolished the nobility. Yeah but they still got all the fancy houses and capital, and you'd be deeply wrong if you think these guys don't have a huge say and impact in politics anymore.
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Jo Swinson must feel like she’s in an episode of the Thick of It (even more than usual). Spends weeks hammering away against a Corbyn opposition government, and finally hits upon “pass legislation” as the one possible counter that might just barely look publically acceptable and hard for her opponents to oppose. Rallies the other small parties to that banner, forcing Corbyn to acquiesce. Victory for Jo, hooray. And then today Boris prorogues parliament blocking any chance of getting legislation passed in time, and its straight back to VONC or death. Hilarious
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Pesky Splinter posted:Also Swinson gonna Swinson. Yeah it's quite telling that the Lib Dems' apparent increase in popularity goes hand in hand with her doing more to prop up the Tories. I have friends who get upset that we'd suggest that the Lib Dems would do this based on the past, but there's no indication they would do anything but roll over for them. Of course they'll try and look like they're opposing the tories but their way achieves nothing.
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Junior G-man posted:No, the EU's position doesn't change at all. They're pretty much done with this poo poo and waiting to see what emerges from Tzeentch's convoluted schemes across the Channel, but they're not gonna pull the plug early because that wouldn't be legal, and the EU yea sorry that's what I mean, the EU won't budge from it's 'dude we've done this like five times already, poo poo or get off the pot' stance any more without some pretty big negotiation between parliament proper and them and bojo's just driving the bus into the wall as fast as possible. I was more asking if there's any tory attempts to spin this as 'well the EU won't give us a sixth shot at this so really this is their fault' or is the entire party pretty well in lockstep of 'yea gently caress it hard brexit is cool now' by now?
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Marxist-Jezzinist posted:brb changing my name to Arch-Marquis of Munich bring the aristocracy bang up to date: Marquis-Mark of Munich
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Marxist-Jezzinist posted:We need to track down a godwin 
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Pesky Splinter posted:She's such a posturing loving waste of oxygen. I know there's much, much more interesting and important things going on right now, but Jess Phillips's schtick is just so loving irritating. Literally "I am a sensible adult and this issue can only be sorted by me, the sensible adult, talking like a sensible adult." It's smug and vacuous to the point of self-parody, and what's most annoying is that a lot of otherwise clever people absolutely lap it up as being the mightiest political discourse
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sexpig by night posted:tory attempts to spin this as 'well the EU won't give us a sixth shot at this so really this is their fault' or is the entire party pretty well in lockstep of 'yea gently caress it hard brexit is cool now' by now? These two paths have been the entire BoJo communication strategy since he took over.
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Junior G-man posted:These two paths have been the entire BoJo communication strategy since he took over. well...have fun with that I guess! Cool to see that the global rise of far right psychos has become a race to see who can gently caress their country up first. We've got a good lead on you guys but it seems your guy has some pro-strats to close the gap.
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Luxury Tent Carpet posted:bring the aristocracy bang up to date: Marquis-Mark of Munich Marquis-Monster of Munch. Good mates with the Earl of Sandwich 
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moostaffa posted:https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/269157 Boris has drastically reduced the time available to parliament in the next two months. Fubpees: "let's force parliament to squeeze in another useless debate in the next few weeks!" Pesky Splinter posted:https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/1166631844655304704 The maximum chaos outcome would the government losing an initial vote due to Tory abstentions, Corybn not getting enough votes for an interim government, then a couple of spineless tories flip and vote confidence in Boris again before the 2 weeks are up. I'm fully expecting to see this.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Why do all Royals look simultaneously 14 and 40 in their 20's?
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Marxist-Jezzinist posted:We need to track down a godwin We already have one making laws relevant to our society.
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Since everyone seems to just be doing whatever the gently caress they want to now, Corbs should challenge Boris to 1on1 combat in the commons.
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Yeah if a VONC happens this'll be the outcome We should really really be all moving away huh There's gonna be a legit diaspora in a couple decades lol
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Hentai Jihadist posted:Yeah if a VONC happens this'll be the outcome Too bad the 50m Irish diaspora has cornered the pub market, you'll have to find your own thing.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Too bad the 50m Irish diaspora has cornered the pub market, you'll have to find your own thing. Well, my chimney does need sweeping, if anyone of you has an adorable street urchin accent?
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Hentai Jihadist posted:We should really really be all moving away huh This is easier said than done. EU gonna be patrolling the Channel intercepting our rafts trying to make it to the detention centres at Calais...
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Hentai Jihadist posted:Yeah if a VONC happens this'll be the outcome don't worry, tons of us are stuck here
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Failed Imagineer posted:Too bad the 50m Irish diaspora has cornered the pub market, you'll have to find your own thing. Pie Shoppes
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sexpig by night posted:well...have fun with that I guess! Cool to see that the global rise of far right psychos has become a race to see who can gently caress their country up first. We've got a good lead on you guys but it seems your guy has some pro-strats to close the gap. We voted Brexit before you lot voted Trump. My (American) wife said she knew the moment the referendum result came out that he was going to become President. (I also remember the US pol thread earnestly assuring me that while my country might be insane and hosed up there was no way America was that stupid, Hilary had it on lock)
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Failed Imagineer posted:Too bad the 50m Irish diaspora has cornered the pub market, you'll have to find your own thing. We (UK diaspora) should simply invade Irish pubs peacefully.
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CyberPingu posted:Since everyone seems to just be doing whatever the gently caress they want to now, Corbs should challenge Boris to 1on1 combat in the commons.  Failed Imagineer posted:Too bad the 50m Irish diaspora has cornered the pub market, you'll have to find your own thing. Niric posted:We (UK diaspora) should simply invade Irish pubs peacefully.
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Niric posted:I know there's much, much more interesting and important things going on right now, but Jess Phillips's schtick is just so loving irritating. Literally "I am a sensible adult and this issue can only be sorted by me, the sensible adult, talking like a sensible adult." It's smug and vacuous to the point of self-parody, and what's most annoying is that a lot of otherwise clever people absolutely lap it up as being the mightiest political discourse Its the constant insertion of herself that does it I think. She talks like an apprentice contestant. Every sentence contains self promotion. She couldn't look outside and say "The Sky is blue" without it coming out as "I went outside and I noticed the sky is blue."
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Tesseraction posted:Of course my computer would absolutely poo poo itself the day of a constitutional crisis This but losing my phone  I pride myself on not being a phone-loser and now my sterling reputation is tarnished forever
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Trump now tweeting directly about Corbyn. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1166706175003545600 This cartoon grows ever closer to reality. 
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Niric posted:I know there's much, much more interesting and important things going on right now, but Jess Phillips's schtick is just so loving irritating. Literally "I am a sensible adult and this issue can only be sorted by me, the sensible adult, talking like a sensible adult." It's smug and vacuous to the point of self-parody, and what's most annoying is that a lot of otherwise clever people absolutely lap it up as being the mightiest political discourse It's the sort of vacuous poo poo that the media classes lap up so they can point and say, "Oh for it to be 2012 when the sensible people were in charge and we didn't have to pretend to know about austerity." Her authentocracy poo poo irritates me more, "Oh bab, I'm working class I am, I know what it's like working in t'politics mine with me ma an' pa. Can't trust that Jerm'y Corbyn, mind." *doffs cap to Reece-Mogg* xtothez posted:The maximum chaos outcome would the government losing an initial vote due to Tory abstentions, Corybn not getting enough votes for an interim government, then a couple of spineless tories flip and vote confidence in Boris again before the 2 weeks are up. I'm fully expecting to see this. Given how things have been going, and we're in the worst timeline, I can see this going down.
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feedmegin posted:We voted Brexit before you lot voted Trump. My (American) wife said she knew the moment the referendum result came out that he was going to become President. man I actually memory hole'd that. I forgot he was all 'THEY'LL CALL ME MR BREXIT' and poo poo and congratulating Scotland on voting leave....welp once again America is just half-assed cosplaying England then.
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Archaeology Hat posted:So... anyone know how hard it is to move to Poland if your spouse is Polish? lol at trying to escape a fascist take over by moving to Poland.
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