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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

fuf posted:

Thanks. I guess I'll go for UCU. I'm in an IT department at a university.

All three seem to have advantages:
UCU: more focused
Unite: more left wing (?)
Unison: the guy who sits behind me is the Unison rep, and it would be cool to have a close contact and maybe get involved

I'm too scared to go on strike on the 20th because I'm so new, but I booked it as a vacation day so I can join the march lol

Unite is run by wannabe dictator Big Len. He's not outright fash but he's no Bob Crow.

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mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

fuf posted:

Thanks. I guess I'll go for UCU. I'm in an IT department at a university.

All three seem to have advantages:
UCU: more focused
Unite: more left wing (?)
Unison: the guy who sits behind me is the Unison rep, and it would be cool to have a close contact and maybe get involved

I'm too scared to go on strike on the 20th because I'm so new, but I booked it as a vacation day so I can join the march lol

Unless there's a good reason not to, always join the most militant union you can

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Norn Iron court finds prorogation lawful https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/12/northern-irish-judges-rule-boris-johnson-prorogation-is-lawful

Not lookin' good for Tuesday's ruling (not that it was likely to pass anyway), but at least blowjo gets a week of being accused of misleading the sovereign

dispatch_async
Nov 28, 2014

Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life
https://twitter.com/SiobhanFenton/status/1172097727146209280

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"
Challenging the legality rather than the morality of the government's actions always seems to be a trap that people fall into. People seem to have this belief that the law is inherently moral and it definitely isn't (source: am a lawyer)

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
*bodies start piling up in the streets*

Project Fear is really ramping up the scare tactics now!

*I'm literally dying*

You can't get me Project Fear!! I'm onto you!!

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

RockyB posted:

Not exactly UK related, but I'm doing my morning hate read of the guardian while pretending to work and look at the absolute state of this

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/12/joe-biden-2020-race-anti-trump

You can see his brain deteriorate in real time during the campaign and also lol

https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1166033201850175488?s=19

Edit: lmao that article is by a George Bush SR adviser

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good

Ratjaculation posted:

I assume anyone itt who willingly reads anything but the 1% of the guardian that isn't poo poo is into electric nipple clips and those spikey prison penis things

I also subscribe to the spectator.

Seriously though, it's good to have a wide range of things to hate read. As much as I agree with the majority of this thread I'm conscious that it isn't just FBPEs at risk of bubbling themselves off from reality. So spectator for right wing nut jobs and book reviews. Guardian for FBPE champagne socialism. BBC for utter blandness. And this thread for incorrect opinions on monster munch.

Trickjaw
Jun 23, 2005
Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene



Aphex- posted:

post/username

Also I wouldn't be surprised either if Boris didn't lie to the Queen. She either doesn't give a gently caress or knows what's happening but doesn't care.

It's probably a technicality. "I didn't lie, but my ministers I sent to Balmoral? Cripes, pants on fire all round what what" *pushes reporter off HMS Belfast as a lark*

If he does get arrested and thrown in clink, I'll visit him every week in the Yaxley-Lennon wing.

Trickjaw fucked around with this message at 11:59 on Sep 12, 2019

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

She slaps each and every prime minister right in the face. She gets away with it because no PM would ever mention being slapped by the Queen, and so no PM is ever prepared for the slap.

Finally an answer to the question of "how can she slap?"

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


mfcrocker posted:

Unless there's a good reason not to, always join the most militant union you can
Just dual card. There's always a good reason to join the more specialised Union with recognition &c - much easier having them deal with your boss, UCU runs a bunch of pretty good training courses &c, and tbh it's just pretty nice having most of your colleagues also be comrades (and unpersoning the scabs). And on top of that join IWW to agitate for class war.

a pipe smoking dog posted:

Challenging the legality rather than the morality of the government's actions always seems to be a trap that people fall into. People seem to have this belief that the law is inherently moral and it definitely isn't (source: am a lawyer)
This is also a good reason to join IWW, have scored a couple of good victories lately without setting foot in a court room

Debbie Does Dagon
Jul 8, 2005



Any suggestions for a good union for hospitality/hotel workers?

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


RockyB posted:

I also subscribe to the spectator.

Seriously though, it's good to have a wide range of things to hate read. As much as I agree with the majority of this thread I'm conscious that it isn't just FBPEs at risk of bubbling themselves off from reality. So spectator for right wing nut jobs and book reviews. Guardian for FBPE champagne socialism. BBC for utter blandness. And this thread for incorrect opinions on monster munch.

Personally, I enjoy the Economist for this, as they are so unashamedly liberal that the brain worms are in prominent display.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

Jose posted:

You can see his brain deteriorate in real time during the campaign and also lol

https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1166033201850175488?s=19

Edit: lmao that article is by a George Bush SR adviser

no look i found the PERFECT solution

https://twitter.com/kgopinion/status/1171737020206637056

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
Apropos of nothing, the Pixies live appearance on 6Music gets almost Partridge-esque at times - Lamacq gushes for minutes about how clever a reference Daniel Boone is in one of their new songs, and Frank Black just answers "Nah it's because his name rhymes with moon".

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Liking the look of that Watch casting. Everyone has their own fantasy casting (Hugh Laurie for Vimes, do not mock me!) but if there's one thing this country isn't short of, it's good actors, virtually all unknown of course.

Having said that, Harriet Walter for Granny Weatherwax in a theoretical Witches project please, based on her performance as Henry IV. And yes Miriam Margolyes is the only possible Nanny Ogg.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
who plays the space turtle

angerbot
Mar 23, 2004

plob
Britain colonized the world and had every possible food available and now your food choices are five types of lichen and a sheep Mary Berry has quietly tutted at

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

fuf posted:

Thanks. I guess I'll go for UCU. I'm in an IT department at a university.

All three seem to have advantages:
UCU: more focused
Unite: more left wing (?)
Unison: the guy who sits behind me is the Unison rep, and it would be cool to have a close contact and maybe get involved

I'm too scared to go on strike on the 20th because I'm so new, but I booked it as a vacation day so I can join the march lol

im in UCU and we're currently having a ballot about a possible strike cause they're trying to gently caress with our pension again

its prob not hte most militant trade union but its good imho

chestnut santabag
Jul 3, 2006

bump_fn posted:

who plays the space turtle

Mitch Mcconnell.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






Bobstar posted:

Liking the look of that Watch casting. Everyone has their own fantasy casting (Hugh Laurie for Vimes, do not mock me!) but if there's one thing this country isn't short of, it's good actors, virtually all unknown of course.

Having said that, Harriet Walter for Granny Weatherwax in a theoretical Witches project please, based on her performance as Henry IV. And yes Miriam Margolyes is the only possible Nanny Ogg.

Washed-up House era Hugh Laurie would have made a good Vimes. Really though you just need a classic alcoholic gumshoe down on his luck.

Guards! Guards is such a good book.

E: There’s a concept, the nobility of failure, that you don’t hear about so much these days; early Vimes has it in spades, and it’s pretty much the foundation of noir.

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



I'm burning time in a Sainsbury's supermarket and I'm convinced once you reach 60 you automatically stash wet wipes in your pocket to double clean tables

madey
Sep 17, 2007

I saved the Olympics singlehandedly

bump_fn posted:

who plays the space turtle

Every single casting director in the land would put Stephen Fry in the role and we would be powerless to stop them.

Edit: spelling

madey fucked around with this message at 12:35 on Sep 12, 2019

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

RockyB posted:

I also subscribe to the spectator.

Seriously though, it's good to have a wide range of things to hate read. As much as I agree with the majority of this thread I'm conscious that it isn't just FBPEs at risk of bubbling themselves off from reality. So spectator for right wing nut jobs and book reviews. Guardian for FBPE champagne socialism. BBC for utter blandness. And this thread for incorrect opinions on monster munch.

I get that a broad range of political perspectives is useful, but the Spectator has active fash on its payroll. Please don't give it money.

Scikar
Nov 20, 2005

5? Seriously?

a pipe smoking dog posted:

Challenging the legality rather than the morality of the government's actions always seems to be a trap that people fall into. People seem to have this belief that the law is inherently moral and it definitely isn't (source: am a lawyer)

It always will be though, people want to believe that the law is closely aligned with morality and just needs tweaks here and there occasionally (which is what Parliament is for). This is really easy to then play off if someone powerful does something and is found not to have broken the law in the process - "I've done nothing wrong" is a legal statement but people want to take it as a moral statement. If you want to challenge that you have to beat the just world hypothesis.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


madey posted:

Every single casting director in the land would put Stephen Fry in the roll and we would be powerless to stop them.


Monsterhood aside I'm getting real bored of fry appearing in everything and reading audiobooks and stuff. His only gimmick is the plummiest voice in the world, his reading of Hitchhikers Guide just makes everyone sound like theyr bored aristocrats.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Beefeater1980 posted:

Washed-up House era Hugh Laurie would have made a good Vimes. Really though you just need a classic alcoholic gumshoe down on his luck.

Guards! Guards is such a good book.

E: There’s a concept, the nobility of failure, that you don’t hear about so much these days; early Vimes has it in spades, and it’s pretty much the foundation of noir.

Yeah he's probably too old now.

I'm currently in bed recovering from having a butt operation on my butt, maybe I'll re-read the Watch books, haven't done that for ages.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
It's a crying shame Pete Postlethwaite is dead or he'd have been an excellent Vimes.

radmonger
Jun 6, 2011

Gort posted:

So our glorious future is as a bomb factory for racists

Also our glorious present and past

It’s quality branding.

These are the weapons that killed your grandparents. That was then.

This is now; you are on the other end of the barrel. For just a few billion, that troublesome cousin will bother you no more.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Gort posted:

It's a crying shame Pete Postlethwaite is dead or he'd have been an excellent Vimes.

Ooh yes. Shame he's dead generally.

I wasn't the only one who thought of Paul Blackthorne from Arrow when I saw him, and he's conveniently British too! But that's mainly just based on 1) Is playing cop and 2) looks right.

jackhunter64
Aug 28, 2008

Keep it up son, take a look at what you could have won


Stephen Dillane would be best Vimes.

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good

Darth Walrus posted:

I get that a broad range of political perspectives is useful, but the Spectator has active fash on its payroll. Please don't give it money.

I think you'd be hard pressed to find any media company these days that doesn't employ someone loathsome. Don't worry though, I counter balance the £1 a month for the kindle edition (although I think they just put the price up) by donating to the SWP.






...

No, not really. Jesus.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

jackhunter64 posted:

Stephen Dillane would be best Vimes.

Got a lot of time for Stephen Dillane - he got hosed over as Stannis, but gave as best he could. And his villain in Touch of Cloth was the deadest of deadpan.

"guns can be very loud in enclosed spaces, that's why you've gotta wear ear defenders.
" but you're not wearing eardefenders"
"pardon?"

Mrenda
Mar 14, 2012
It was suggested years ago, somewhere else, but ever since hearing the suggestion I can't help but think of anyone else as these characters: Jeff Stewart, i.e. Reg from The BIll as Nobby Nobs, and Graham Cole, i.e. Tony Stamp from The Bill as Fred Colon.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

RockyB posted:

I think you'd be hard pressed to find any media company these days that doesn't employ someone loathsome. Don't worry though, I counter balance the £1 a month for the kindle edition (although I think they just put the price up) by donating to the SWP.






...

No, not really. Jesus.

Most British media hire some pretty bad people, yes, but I can't think of many that hire actual, literal Nazis like Taki Theodoracopulos as regular columnists. I mean, if you have other examples (ideally from publications that might otherwise be worth subscribing to for a more usefully complete picture of the world), feel free to share 'em.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Gort posted:

It's a crying shame Pete Postlethwaite is dead or he'd have been an excellent Vimes.

Given that he's literally the actor Pratchett had in mind to play Vimes, and to an extent wrote vimes around... yeah.

Mark Strong would be my choice at the moment.

Nobbs and Colon should be Pegg and Frost.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face

Rarity posted:

Especially if you are not a straight white dude! It would be great to have female/BAME/LGBTQ+/disabled voices on there so please feel welcome to take part! And if there's anything we can do to make being part of the podcast easier for you just let us know :)

Inclusivity is excellent and I hope you get some disabled people on spitting fire about this shite government. Unfortunately they won't be me as podcasts are inherently inimical to us deaf folks :v:

E: not having a go at all if that wasn't clear, I think UKMT having a podcast is Very Good

el dingo
Mar 19, 2009


Ogres are like onions
Slightly left field but Stephen Rea as Vetinari.

I also read this whole thread, slow work week. Don't AMA though.

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles

thespaceinvader posted:

Given that he's literally the actor Pratchett had in mind to play Vimes, and to an extent wrote vimes around... yeah.

Mark Strong would be my choice at the moment.

Nobbs and Colon should be Pegg and Frost.

Mark Stong has that quiet menace that makes him perfect for Vetinari, imo.

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StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum
Ian McShane would be a good Vetinari I reckon.

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