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PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

coke posted:

this is the one i remember from the last wood posting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92ejWHlPLaE

:catstare:

Just use an axe dude

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evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug
I know posting Kreosan is like using OSHA cheat codes, but I still feel like this belongs here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B62Zpy9z72g

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
POSTERS LOCAL 42069




Clapping Larry

PostNouveau posted:

:catstare:

Just use an axe dude

what am i a peasant? sweat my own sweat??

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Rust Martialis posted:

How the gently caress did they trigger a loving quench on that Bruker 500

I'm not sure. They were refilling the unit when it quenched.

The air system is venting it outside. The oxygen level alarm went off about a minute after the quench started and only kept going for about 3 more. That's fast enough that someone who tripped and knocked themselves during the evacuation wouldn't suffocate. That power in an air re-circulation system isn't cheap, but it's designed against all three NMRs quenching simultaneously. Which would be deafeningly loud.

We have a lot of Very Serious HVAC on campus. My building for example has the Process Virology labs which are on a negative pressure system. Because of that we also have a vastly oversize backup generator to keep that, and the attendant alarm system, running during a power outage. I'm not sure of the exact rating, but eyeballing it I'd say you could run a small submarine or three 12 story apartment buildings off of it.

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe
I hope they have more than one generator, one backup generator is essentially no generators in my experience.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

mllaneza posted:

I'm not sure. They were refilling the unit when it quenched.

The air system is venting it outside. The oxygen level alarm went off about a minute after the quench started and only kept going for about 3 more. That's fast enough that someone who tripped and knocked themselves during the evacuation wouldn't suffocate. That power in an air re-circulation system isn't cheap, but it's designed against all three NMRs quenching simultaneously. Which would be deafeningly loud.

We have a lot of Very Serious HVAC on campus. My building for example has the Process Virology labs which are on a negative pressure system. Because of that we also have a vastly oversize backup generator to keep that, and the attendant alarm system, running during a power outage. I'm not sure of the exact rating, but eyeballing it I'd say you could run a small submarine or three 12 story apartment buildings off of it.

Really learn to appreciate HVAC in this profession.

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe
Just surprised they rely on that instead of venting it directly to the outside, via pipes.

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

shovelbum posted:

I hope they have more than one generator, one backup generator is essentially no generators in my experience.

We have a back up generator and it has failed every single time they tested it. When we had a real power outage it didn't work, either.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

tactlessbastard posted:

We have a back up generator and it has failed every single time they tested it. When we had a real power outage it didn't work, either.

Sounds like your testing was spot on.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


Just don't put all your backup generators in the basement like they did at Fukushima

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

See what you do is continue as normal knowing the backup doesn't work, then schedule a test which must be carried out regardless of conditions, even if it means putting your equipment in a dangerous state it was never designed for.

Absolutely nothing could go wrong, it's just a test!

Fallows
Jan 20, 2005

If he waits long enough he can use his accrued interest from his savings to bring his negative checking balance back into the black.

FuturePastNow posted:

Just don't put all your backup generators in the basement like they did at Fukushima

They should've used RBMK reacters at Fukushima. They could never explode or melt down

JackSplater
Nov 20, 2014

Metal Coat? It's already active?!
My workplace keeps the building's (diesel) backup generator directly between our CNG forklift fueling station (which is right beside where the natural gas connects to the building) and our thirty foot tall propane tank.

At least we know it works, since it runs a 30-minute test every Sunday.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

shovelbum posted:

Just surprised they rely on that instead of venting it directly to the outside, via pipes.

Would have to be titanium pipes or plastic. Anything ferromagnetic near an 11.7T magnet is Not Advised. Even though the field outside the casing is relatively weak.

The magnets are also averse to vibration, random EMF sources, and anything large and ferrous (cars, trucks) moving nearby outside, as the probes are very sensitive, and maintaining a homogeneous static magnetic field is critical.

So you tend to have a clear space around them. Pipes would be wierd, and probably make the magnet vibrate unacceptably.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Rust Martialis posted:

Would have to be titanium pipes or plastic. Anything ferromagnetic near an 11.7T magnet is not advised. Even thought the field outside the casing is relatively weak.

The magnets are also averse to vibration, random EMF sources, and anything large and ferrous (cars, trucks) moving nearby outside, as the probes are very sensitive, and maintaining a homogeneous static magnetic field is critical.

So you tend to have a clear space around them. Pipes would be wierd.

See also: MRIs in hospitals.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Mustached Demon posted:

See also: MRIs in hospitals.

MRI have a weaker field, but its bigger. The sample holder in the NMR machine is buried out of harm's way, and the field outside the magnet casing is really not THAT strong even on a 750 MHz machine. You can resist it.

The cavity on an MRI is an inch across, an MRI has to fit a human.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Rust Martialis posted:

MRI have a weaker field, but its bigger. The sample holder in the NMR machine is buried out of harm's way, and the field outside the magnet casing is really not THAT strong even on a 750 MHz machine. You can resist it.

The cavity on an MRI is an inch across, an MRI has to fit a human.

I was more talking about ferromagnetic stuff around the giant, gently caress off magnet.

ewiley
Jul 9, 2003

More trash for the trash fire

mllaneza posted:

This is what tens of thousands of dollars of liquid helium boiling off looks like.

https://i.imgur.com/me56bVk.mp4

This reminds me of the time I was in a datacenter when there was an FM200 discharge, kind of like a crazy fog machine where it doesn't dissipate.

The DC was quite the OSHA experience overall. Crawling under raised flooring next to more or less exposed 480V connectors, shaky ladder-racking above holding way too much weight of cabling.

Their generator failed once so they trucked in some mobile ones and snaked cables from the battery room outside to the portable gensets. Remarkable nobody was electrocuted in there. Good times during the dotcom bubble!

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Crawling around under raised floor is the best. Especially when the real floor is 10-15 feet below the raised floor. People get a real kick out of seeing someone walk into their work center, pop a floor tile and disappear into an abyss.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

Gunshow Poophole posted:

what am i a peasant? sweat my own sweat??

lol if you don't have your manservant Enrique fan you while you split wood with your $400 axe from a designer boutique while glamping

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ
The true glamping style is to take several minutes and a dozen swings to split one log (poorly) and then dust off your hands and leave the rest to your manservant.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem

Cojawfee posted:

Especially when the real floor is 10-15 feet below the raised floor.

Isn't it just a whole separate floor at that point?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Jabor posted:

Isn't it just a whole separate floor at that point?

In a normal world it would I guess. But this was a repurposed manufacturing facility, and this part of the building used to be over a pit.

The Wiggly Wizard
Aug 21, 2008


Did that Russian/Ukrainian youtuber that would take apart microwaves to make ray guns etc ever blow himself up

Nth Doctor
Sep 7, 2010

Darkrai used Dream Eater!
It's super effective!


The Wiggly Wizard posted:

Did that Russian/Ukrainian youtuber that would take apart microwaves to make ray guns etc ever blow himself up

Funny you should mention that, wasn't there a vid of him working with Sappers in Ukraine to identify explosive traps posted in here last week?

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Icon Of Sin posted:

Until they get a log full of ants.

Bravo

coldpudding
May 14, 2009

FORUM GHOST
How about this guy digging up old munitions for scrap copper https://youtu.be/gGM8qYU69TY?t=899

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

coldpudding posted:

How about this guy digging up old munitions for scrap copper https://youtu.be/gGM8qYU69TY?t=899

Oh gently caress, these dudes had gopro?

ReelBigLizard posted:

It's not the worst way, probably the worst case is similar to the above though - It doesn't work and now you have a device in an even more potentially dangerous condition.

Speaking of the worst way, we had a report come in to the mine action co-ordination group while I was back in the capital one day. Some guys who ran a bicycle repair shop had found a downed helicopter gunship in the bush and relieved it of a load of ~30mm cannon shells. They were pulling the projectiles, heating them up and then using a hammer and chisel to pop the copper driving bands off to use for brazing. Apparently they had been doing it for weeks before the inevitable happened. I was glad we didn't attend the scene.

Saukkis
May 16, 2003

Unless I'm on the inside curve pointing straight at oncoming traffic the high beams stay on and I laugh at your puny protest flashes.
I am Most Important Man. Most Important Man in the World.

ewiley posted:

The DC was quite the OSHA experience overall. Crawling under raised flooring next to more or less exposed 480V connectors, shaky ladder-racking above holding way too much weight of cabling.

Who came up with the raised floor datacenter? We used to have them and in hindsight they were such a stupid idea compared to running the cabling overhead, preferably in advance and using patch panels.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Rust Martialis posted:

MRI have a weaker field, but its bigger. The sample holder in the NMR machine is buried out of harm's way, and the field outside the magnet casing is really not THAT strong even on a 750 MHz machine. You can resist it.

The cavity on an MRI is an inch across, an MRI has to fit a human.

Wait, I thought NMR and MRI were literally the same thing, just rebranded because hospital patients didn't like the word "nuclear"?

everydayfalls
Aug 23, 2016

haveblue posted:

Wait, I thought NMR and MRI were literally the same thing, just rebranded because hospital patients didn't like the word "nuclear"?

Different scales, nmri they are talking about is 11+ Tesla human scale mr is 1.5 or 3 Tesla generally. Also samples are different sizes, human versus tiny tinny things.

fist4jesus
Nov 24, 2002

Saukkis posted:

Who came up with the raised floor datacenter? We used to have them and in hindsight they were such a stupid idea compared to running the cabling overhead, preferably in advance and using patch panels.

It looks cooler.

Goober Peas
Jun 30, 2007

Check out my 'Vette, bro



Jesus

Genderfluent
Jul 15, 2015

tactlessbastard posted:

We have a back up generator and it has failed every single time they tested it. When we had a real power outage it didn't work, either.

I was working at an institute that had two power outages on consecutive weekends. The first time the generator came on. The second time it didn't. Turns out it had to be reset after coming on or it wouldn't emergency start again, but no one knew this because there was no documentation from it's installation 30 years ago

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Saukkis posted:

Who came up with the raised floor datacenter? We used to have them and in hindsight they were such a stupid idea compared to running the cabling overhead, preferably in advance and using patch panels.

Raised floor datacenter main benefit is for cooling.



We have one at work but still run cabling overhead.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there
Yes, NMR and MRI are the same idea. The need to keep the field absolutely constant (in parts per million) across the target gives rise to problems, and why MRI uses contrast agents. In MRI you are looking at 1H nuclei (aka 'proton') in water in tissues in lumps/organs, the local magnetic field varies in different tissues due to chemical effects. So liver looks different from kidney from fat. The concentration of proton nuclei in water is huge, the signal is massive.

In NMR you hate water. It obscures your compound at millimole concentration. You are looking at methyl, amino, etc hydrogen nuclei. For biomolecules anyhow. So the suppression of water signal is a huge problem, so you dissolve your compounds in D20 or other ways.

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

loving hell, don't leave a bus parked on a rail crossing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgK8K6rr5Pc

Dysgenesis
Jul 12, 2012

HAVE AT THEE!


haveblue posted:

Wait, I thought NMR and MRI were literally the same thing, just rebranded because hospital patients didn't like the word "nuclear"?

Most radiology departments have an area called nuclear medicine.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

coke posted:

this is the one i remember from the last wood posting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92ejWHlPLaE

he made a lathe partially from treadmill parts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZPIVKi8J4s

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Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


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