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goddamnedtwisto posted:That planchet thing is another of those weird urban myths where a tiny part of the story is assumed to be the entirety of it. They *were* used as slugs (i.e. blank "coins" that can fool vending machines) on a very small scale, but they're basically useless for making fake coins if you want to make a profit on them. Yeah, but unlike the penny it costs less than £1 to make a pound coin.
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Jedit posted:Yeah, but unlike the penny it costs less than £1 to make a pound coin. It's costs more than £1 to make a penny? (  )
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Igotadigbick posted:I truly believe that there is no way to topple the right wing/liberal bullshit that has our country strangled without actual civil war now, and I wouldn't fancy the left's chances in that. Same except no therapist lol But hey ho. A luta continua
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Guavanaut posted:The Swazi lilangeni weren't being used to make fake pounds as much as they were being bought for their face value of 8p and used in vending machines, where they'd pass because they were exactly the same planchet as a pound coin. You're talking fractions of a percent of the total problem though - at the end at least 3% and probably 5% of all pound coins in circulation were fake, that's hundreds of millions of pounds. Jedit posted:Yeah, but unlike the penny it costs less than £1 to make a pound coin. Criminals are of course noted for their craftsmanship and insistence on producing the highest-quality product regardless of it's effect on their bottom line.
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when it happens to fruit machines though because gently caress them.
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Wachter posted:What's a venture socialist? Found them.
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I remember when that was announced, and all the  in the comments about 100 trillion dead.It's by the same guys that did AdVenture Capitalist and I don't recall anyone complaining that there's no mode where you end up homeless and can't afford healthcare.
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A few weeks ago someone posted a tweet with some good info/names about how the BBC has become a Tory propaganda platform. Anyone have that link/tweet to hand... I'm in another argument.
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Ratjaculation posted:A few weeks ago someone posted a tweet with some good info/names about how the BBC has become a Tory propaganda platform. Anyone have that link/tweet to hand... I'm in another argument. https://imgur.com/a/aGGOQXL got u fam
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Just looked for the clip of the guy giving Boris grief in a hospital on Youtube and the comments on the video are disheartening to say the least.
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Sep 18, 2019 13:34
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Boris just doesn't count the BBC as the press, they're simply another arm of the Conservative Party.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:It's costs more than £1 to make a penny? It takes a village to raise a child. But you know what I mean. The value of the materials in a penny is greater than the value of the coin. And to whichever disingenuous twat it was being sarcastic about criminals and the bottom line - if a criminal can make a convincing fake £1 coin for 5p then of course they won't spend 50p. But if they need to spend 50p then they will because it's still profitable. It's what powers the FOBT scam that puts those coins into circulation to begin with.
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Was it David Cameron or Jeremy Hunt that got kicked out of a hospital that one time by a doctor who rightly said they had no right to be there and they were interfering with patient care?
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People from the sun get asked to leave hospitals all the time because of their strict controls of vermin in wards.
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Jedit posted:And to whichever disingenuous twat it was being sarcastic about criminals and the bottom line - coffeetable fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Sep 18, 2019 |
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Jedit posted:But you know what I mean. The value of the materials in a penny is greater than the value of the coin.
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Azza Bamboo posted:Was it David Cameron or Jeremy Hunt that got kicked out of a hospital that one time by a doctor who rightly said they had no right to be there and they were interfering with patient care? The doctor was given gardening leave afterwards as I recall.
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So new research on NI's implementation of the Nordic Model of client criminalisation has been published today https://twitter.com/SWAIIreland/status/1174275891712708608?s=19
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Z the IVth posted:The doctor was given gardening leave afterwards as I recall.
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Sep 18, 2019 14:01
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Beefeater1980 posted:Re the FT, this is centrism doing what it’s supposed to do instead of whatever the gently caress the LDs are doing: responding to resurgent socialism by challenging the wealth distribution. Offering change-lite. Now we generally recognise that capitalism will eventually eat itself, but I'm enjoying the people who think capitalism is good actually, who are noticing a massive swell in support for socialism, and are starting to think that, if there had been maybe a less extreme form of capitalism these last few decades, maybe things would still be ok like in 2012 (or more likely 2006). I reckon anyone alive and capitalisming today could have lived out their life with socialism remaining a suppressed fringe, if there had been a greater sprinkling of "social" ideas on top of the capitalist base. But maybe I'm wrong, and the greed-induced crisis cycle can't be stretched out that far.
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Gasmask posted:I really can't believe there are so many vile cunts on twitter. it must be 90% bots, right?? I don't think they are bots. We need to start killing people imo. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Bobstar posted:Now we generally recognise that capitalism will eventually eat itself, but I'm enjoying the people who think capitalism is good actually, who are noticing a massive swell in support for socialism, and are starting to think that, if there had been maybe a less extreme form of capitalism these last few decades, maybe things would still be ok like in 2012 (or more likely 2006). Material conditions and all that, the 90s was never going to allow for capitalists saying "some socialism good."
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Jedit posted:And to whichever disingenuous twat it was being sarcastic about criminals and the bottom line - if a criminal can make a convincing fake £1 coin for 5p then of course they won't spend 50p. But if they need to spend 50p then they will because it's still profitable. It's what powers the FOBT scam that puts those coins into circulation to begin with. gently caress off. There was originally more here, but gently caress off is all you deserve.
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Guavanaut posted:I think OwlFancier would say that if they were moderate capitalists in the End Of History era then they wouldn't be the capitalists standing at the top of the rubble pile in 2019, someone else would have outcompeted them, outdickheaded them, and been the big dog in 2019 going "maybe we should have been less extreme." I was in fact just about to come and post that while capitalism could theoretically become stable if it didn't always look to grow and exploit more, it can't not do that because that's what capitalism is 
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Azza Bamboo posted:Was it David Cameron or Jeremy Hunt that got kicked out of a hospital that one time by a doctor who rightly said they had no right to be there and they were interfering with patient care? Cameron, I think
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Guavanaut posted:I'm surprised that we haven't scrapped the 1p and 2p, they're worth about what the ½p was when that was pulled (1p worth less than ½p and 2p worth less than 1p). Which just about sums up the absolute state of capitalism. Human beings manipulating each other over loving pennies. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Sep 18, 2019 |
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Gasmask posted:the replies to this (i know don't read the replies) and other postings of this video are insane The Twitter replies you see are determined by an algorithm based on your previous activity to show replies Twitter thinks you will be most interested in. So in short, if all you're seeing is people being a dick then it's cause you've got a history of being a dick.
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Igotadigbick posted:I don't think they are bots. We need to start killing people imo. We've already got 2 'they're not really human kill em all' posters, we don't need more thanks in advance.
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ro5s posted:We've already got 2 'they're not really human kill em all' posters, we don't need more thanks in advance. Where do landlords fit into your equation?
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I seem to remember reading somewhere that the penny only exists to justify the psychological manipulation of £499.99 seeming like it's below the £500 threshold most people have. Same on lower scales with £29.99 being below £30, £1.99 below £2 etc.  But plenty of other countries just do the exact same trick with 19.95 etc. or they'll price it at 19.99 if you're paying by card or 20.00 if you're paying by cash, because the 1c coin or whatever literally won't exist. I'm sure I've seen places where it's even been 19.99 by card or 19.95 by cash, because why be more of a dick to people if they don't have a bank account.
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Rarity posted:Where do landlords fit into your equation? ÷ top circle is the head, bottom circle is the rest of them.
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Rarity posted:The Twitter replies you see are determined by an algorithm based on your previous activity to show replies Twitter thinks you will be most interested in. So in short, if all you're seeing is people being a dick then it's cause you've got a history of being a dick. I was wondering why when I looked at it it was mostly people agreeing that boris is a moron.
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Rarity posted:Where do landlords fit into your equation?
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BBC reporting that Hospital Dad is also a  LABOUR ACTIVIST so that’s cool and rad for anyone who wants to watch the state broadcaster starting the process of ruining a man’s life for daring to confront Dear Leader.
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ro5s posted:Good point, should amend to We've already got 2 'the poor are not really human kill em all' posters, we don't need more thanks in advance. Lol gently caress off I am poor. Liberals and fascists and ignorant fuckers deserve to die.
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OwlFancier posted:I was in fact just about to come and post that while capitalism could theoretically become stable if it didn't always look to grow and exploit more, it can't not do that because that's what capitalism is Yeah I guess I was wondering if it could be made to appear stable over a human lifetime, by slowing the rate of growth and exploitation, but I think Guava's right, the people trying that wouldn't have been allowed to be in charge.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I seem to remember reading somewhere that the penny only exists to justify the psychological manipulation of £499.99 seeming like it's below the £500 threshold most people have. Same on lower scales with £29.99 being below £30, £1.99 below £2 etc. There's a couple of good reasons (well, maybe not good, but at least not complete bullshit) to keep coppers - for example the majority of collection-box donations are coppers, and some charities are concerned that 5p would be a higher psychological barrier. I always found it interesting that in some European countries they've kept .95c pricing from where their pre-Euro currency didn't have 1s and 2s, so apparently it's not *that* big a barrier, and you'd assume shop owners would be keen to gouge that extra 4c per sale. Semi-related but one of my favourite bits of trivia (and a perfect demonstration of the pettiness of business owners).*9c prices first appeared in America with the first large department stores - in smaller stores of course the owner could keep a close eye on the cash handling but in larger stores this was harder, so using prices ending in 9 rather than 5 it forced cashiers to make change for almost all transactions and hence use the till (this is also why most cash tills still have a little bell when they open). They were so distrustful of their staff that right up until the 80s (not coincidentally the time that CCTV started to become cheap) some shops didn't even have tills - cash was sent by pneumatic tubes to a central office and change returned the same way.
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