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Anyone got any recommendations for books about how austerity has ruined things, by people who live/work in those things? So far I've got The Secret Barrister's book (highly recommended) Crippled by Frances Ryan (reading now, but with regular rage breaks). I feel like there must be ones about health and education by this point.
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Guavanaut posted:Strasserism would necessitate a Volk as well wouldn't it? Like I always see it as the BNP's obsession with "indigenous Britons" which is very important and doesn't just mean whites, honest. Aren't the only indigenous brits the Welsh?
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Can't believe this guy made his own kid sick in long-game gambit to sting Johnson His replies are now full of gammons accusing him of basically that
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Chucat posted:What the hell is wrong with her. holding the powerful to account is un-british
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Sep 18, 2019 15:55
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Chucat posted:What the hell is wrong with her. She's a press officer for the Tory party OP.
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Sep 18, 2019 15:56
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Hentai Jihadist posted:Aren't the only indigenous brits the Welsh? what about the cornish 'people'
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Sep 18, 2019 15:57
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kecske posted:what about the cornish 'people' Oh yeah sorry Cornwall. I forget they exist unless im looking for good ice cream E love a pasty, mind
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Sep 18, 2019 15:58
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The media have basically made it clear that if you criticise Johnson they'll do their best to ruin your life. Next they'll be digging up some ill-advised comment he made on twitter three years ago
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Sep 18, 2019 15:58
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Hi thread, I'm back home in Canada after visiting the UK for the last 2 weeks. Can confirm the following: London is grim as gently caress. British roads are narrow and terrifying when you've gotten used to big wide North American roads. Roundabouts are still miles better than traffic-light intersections in most cases though. Cheesy chips with curry sauce are good and I miss them (but other sauces/gravy etc. are also good - don't want to start another UKMT civil war here). We actually went to Westminster while we were back, just to have a look at the craic. Was quite interesting, seeing how College Green has been set up to avoid having to show/interact with Brexit protesters (pro and anti). Saw (Whoa-oa) Thangam Debonnaire being interviewed there, then bumped into Bercow on the tube (didn't say anything though - could have justified it though cause I was his constituent for about 10 years). Also we went there the day after the Scum ran their "Jeremy Corbyn is a chicken" thing and there was some Brexit Party twat in Westminster in a chicken-suit singing "Bawk bawk bawk Jeremy Corbyn" to the tune of "Seven Nation Army", plus an actual Sun-branded chicken-suit guy posing for photos with people by College Green. Pathetic, frankly. Ironically while I was back in the UK I haven't been able to keep up with politics or the thread as much. Oh and of course, I brought back some Monster Munch (Pickled Onion, sadly - would rather have had Flamin' Hot but Pickled Onion was what I saw in the shop) and a pack of Cheese & Onion Squares which I'll have when the mood strikes me.
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Sep 18, 2019 15:59
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Even aside from this awful dog-pile encouragement, it's kinda absurd that in her two tweets about this story she doesn't mention the blatant toddler-level lie that Johnson delivers. Surely that should be a key part of the story: it wasn't just "an awkward encounter," it demonstrates how his first instinct is to lie, even when it's nonsensical. You get the sense that if Johnson said 2+2=5 then Laura K would report this as "PM involved in mathematical discussions" https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1174286478190534658 https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1174291989203959808
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Sep 18, 2019 15:59
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i cant believe omar salem was a guest on cumtown
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Sep 18, 2019 15:59
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Hentai Jihadist posted:Aren't the only indigenous brits the Welsh?
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Rarity posted:Shocking that the dude who posted lol handwaving fash posts on twitter because i made a post you disliked
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Sep 18, 2019 16:06
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Qwertycoatl posted:The media have basically made it clear that if you criticise Johnson they'll do their best to ruin your life. Next they'll be digging up some ill-advised comment he made on twitter three years ago Doesn't bojo have links with the criminal elements of the press? I vaguely remember that being a thing in the long long ago
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Sep 18, 2019 16:07
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the top reply on the laurak tweet is this for me https://twitter.com/Mr_W_Carpenter/status/1174294065388642305 yes im sure its because im secretly a brexit tweeter that i see this and not because 98 other accounts have liked it
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Sep 18, 2019 16:10
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Hentai Jihadist posted:Doesn't bojo have links with the criminal elements of the press? I vaguely remember that being a thing in the long long ago
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Sep 18, 2019 16:10
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https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1174318249460281346 BBC breaking into damage control big time.
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Sep 18, 2019 16:10
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ronya posted:National Bolshevik perhaps not, but Strasserite does, I think, fairly describe prioritizing the anticapitalist struggle so much that not only are people who want to keep it trans-friendly unwelcome, straight-up fascists are invited to join in as long as it aids the struggle Fascism and socialism are united by the fact that both understand neoliberalism to be A Bad Thing that leads to the marginalisation of the poor. While socialism then makes the (correct) argument that the issue here is class-based and the enemies are the bourgeoisie and capitalism itself, fascism goes off on one about race and the corrupting influence of outsiders and conspiratorial Jewish puppetmasters. The fascist analysis is dangerous because it almost gets it, then spins off into racist nonsense. Unlike centrist liberalism it acknowledges that there is a problem, even while the proposed solution is way off the mark. As a result, it can have appeal to those who are suffering but who aren't really true believers. These people, if presented with an actually socialist - as opposed to progressive liberal - argument, can be won over. I read Dempsey's point on Tommy Robinson supporters in this light: less 'fash welcome' and more 'socialism, unlike liberalism, can actually argue with fascism, and can win the argument, and we should welcome those who genuinely accept that they got it wrong'. This recognition is I think why the mainstream American 'left' is so weak - it's fundamentally a progressive liberal project committed to rainbow capitalism. It can't win vs fascism because it rejects the validity of the lived experience of the poor. This is literally why Trump won, and why Sanders was the only democratic candidate who could have beaten him. Additionally, this is why liberals will always support fash over socialists when pushed: to the socialist that liberal is an integral part of the problem, while to the fascist they're a distraction from the 'real' foreign enemy. If there's one thing liberals hate it's being forced to admit they're the issue, and moreso give up their privileged lifestyle. Tldr: socialism or barbarism E: this isn't to say progressivism is bad! Socialism must also be progressive. But progressivism alone isn't enough where it accepts the premise of neoliberal capitalism. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Sep 18, 2019 |
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Sep 18, 2019 16:12
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https://twitter.com/cee4cat/status/1174330368268406784 A good point.
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Sep 18, 2019 16:12
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Gasmask posted:the top reply on the laurak tweet is this for me its this for me https://twitter.com/ClareFKing/status/1174318946499092482?s=20
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Sep 18, 2019 16:15
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Gasmask posted:the top reply on the laurak tweet is this for me Doesn't appear on mine. Based on your posting here, the idea of you being fed Twitter for fuckwits comes as no surprise.
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Sep 18, 2019 16:16
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Guavanaut posted:Strasserism would necessitate a Volk as well wouldn't it? Like I always see it as the BNP's obsession with "indigenous Britons" which is very important and doesn't just mean whites, honest. Dempsey did play his hand there - that infamous quote went quote:... too many in the Labour Party have made a calculation that there’s a certain section at the top end of the working class, in alliance with people, they calculate, from ethnic minorities and liberals, that’s enough to get them into power... the one thing that unites those people, whatever other bigotry is going on, is their hatred of the liberal left and they are right to hate them. as Jones's recent salvo emphasized, in this worldview liberals are not the working class, and neither is another group. There are those who can legitimately speak for the working class and those who are duped, pawns, or scabs of capital; there's the volk.
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Sep 18, 2019 16:17
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welp maybe it's because ive been clicking into these accounts in grim fascination/refusal to accept that they're real people twitter is poo poo everything is poo poo
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Sep 18, 2019 16:17
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Gasmask posted:welp maybe it's because ive been clicking into these accounts in grim fascination/refusal to accept that they're real people including youre posting 
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Sep 18, 2019 16:18
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Guavanaut posted:Strasserism would necessitate a Volk as well wouldn't it? Like I always see it as the BNP's obsession with "indigenous Britons" which is very important and doesn't just mean whites, honest. Bobstar posted:Yeah I guess I was wondering if it could be made to appear stable over a human lifetime, by slowing the rate of growth and exploitation, but I think Guava's right, the people trying that wouldn't have been allowed to be in charge.
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Everyone in the comments either way is now arguing about whethet Labour activists are allowed to yell rather than on bojos reflexive lie so mission accomplished for the BBC
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Sep 18, 2019 16:24
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CGI Stardust posted:iirc there's some empirical evidence to suggest that capitalism starts having problems below 2.5%-3% growth, but I can't remember where I saw it or which way the causation was (if any). Might have been Harvey? you're probably thinking about something pikettyesque, probably not harvey; exogenous growth implies a non-marxist there's also been lots of zero lower boundish writing since 2008
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Sep 18, 2019 16:27
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LMAO BoJo is definitely throwing Northern Ireland overboard: quote:EU doubts over Boris Johnson’s plan
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Sep 18, 2019 16:27
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Igotadigbick posted:The public are not bright and have been severely indoctrinated with bullshit for so many years, there are a lot of empty vessels wandering around without the grey matter to look at things objectively and cognitive dissonance has them blind. Bit personal that...
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Sep 18, 2019 16:27
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boris johnson (he's in the ra)
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Sep 18, 2019 16:28
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OwlFancier posted:boris johnson (he's in the ra) tiocfaidh ár bozzá
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Sep 18, 2019 16:31
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On a biscuit?
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Sep 18, 2019 16:36
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Purple Prince posted:National Bolshevik. Combining extreme xenophobia and communist ideology. They're only really relevant in Russia but the Internet made them into a meme because they fit the "communist fascist" label pretty well. They don't really have anything to do with communist ideology, they're a movement of the politically illiterate who don't know anything about the USSR beyond "Russia was strong" and that a foreign power destroyed it. In that sense they are exactly like the early Nazis.
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Sep 18, 2019 16:36
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Sad to see the far left fascists at the Bozza Bashing Corp plant a Labour activist in an attempt to discredit our leader. What was once a great institution is being destroyed by Comrade Corbyn and his Commie Cronies.
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Sep 18, 2019 16:37
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I can't get enough of are Dan
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Bobstar posted:Anyone got any recommendations for books about how austerity has ruined things, by people who live/work in those things? Mark Blythe - Austerity the history of a dangerous idea https://youtu.be/JQuHSQXxsjM is a 1 hr talk the author does as a catchup summary to then get into the book. Its a read but you leave making GBS threads yourself with new realizations.
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Sep 18, 2019 16:40
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i mean i assume the only reason that the tories didnt explicitly come otu and say "our solution to the backstop is to give the six counties back to ireland" is because they had to coalition with DUP right? there isnt enough money in NI for them to actually give a poo poo i assume
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Junior G-man posted:LMAO BoJo is definitely throwing Northern Ireland overboard: We're going to be rid of the DUP once and for all as they all collectively stroke out at realising they directly resulted in a reunited Ireland. Also watching Greta Thunberg & some american teenagers testify to congress about climate change is some  stuff.The Kids are alright.
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